Who, can Not Sin and Why?
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Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
See? Christians can sin!
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
See? Christians can sin!
Behold
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Your verse says that some Jews (Heberws) "received the knowledge of the Truth".
Notice that your HEB verse does not say that these HEBREWS...believed it.... it only says they received it.. (they heard it)(they " tasted it").....and because they didnt believe The Gospel......"there remains no more JESUS BLOOD to forgive their sin"....which means there is no more sacrifice available for them, because they refused to BELIEVE.
See, Jesus IS The Savior of the World, but His eternal Salvation is only given to the BELIEVERS because they BELIEVED in Him.
"unbelievers"..... have no sacrifice available for them.......is what the verse is showing us.
Heb 10 is actually confirming : John 3:36.
The Heb chapter 6 and 10 verses are showing us that even tho Jesus has died for us all.......His Blood Sacrifice does not save us unless we BELIEVE.
And we see in your posted Heb verse that they heard the Gospel... they "received it"... but they never believed it., and that is why the Apostle told them that no sacrifice was available to/for them., as when you reject the sacrifice, then the sacrifice can't help you, can't save you.....isn't "available".
Reader, some of you go to church, and in your church are people who are not saved, they are Hell bound, and that is because they receive the hearing of the Gospel, because the Pastor shares it with them......but just like the Hebrews in HEB Chapters 6 & 10.....they didnt "mix it with faith"......so, that means that there is no Sacrifice available for them.
They are sitting on a Church Pew, just as Etermally DAMNED as they can be, and they have no idea.
Many of them are Water Baptized years ago.
There are churches all over the world, where you have people who go every Sunday, and have heard the Gospel for years and years......they receive it......but they never believed it.......so, "there remains no sacrifice" for them......until they do believe it.
And here is one more for you Reader...........if you never truly believe, then you are committing the unpardonable sin, and if you die today having done that, then you have an eternal problem...= "Damnation".... that can't ever be resolved in Hell, or in the Lake of Fire.
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Another Israel wannabee?
John 11:45
45 Then many of the Jews who had come to Mary, and had seen the things Jesus did, believed in Him.
ScottA
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No, that is only your understanding, and it is wrong. I gave you the correct information already, but you have rejected it because you have not let go of your obsession and your own understanding.
Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
The writer of Hebrews wasn't saved? John wasn't saved? Paul wasn't saved.
Has to be one or the other, sinner or "bastard". I'll take sinner. If you don't get chastised you're a "bastard". If you're not a "bastard" you're a sinner! Ain't no 'CANNOT sin'!
Hebrews 12:8
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
ScottA
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Your interpretation is wrong.
Your are believing that "knowledge of the truth" is salvation--It is not, but mere knowledge--which "even the demons" know. So...that verse is taken away from your doctrine, as it does not apply.
Now then Hebrews 12:8: "Without chastisement"--does not say or mean "saved" (or unsaved)--it only means what it says. The point being--not what YOU say--but God "loves" those He chastises--which refers to trials--not salvation.
And now that these things have been made known to you--you shall be held accountable for what you say regarding them.
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If OSAS is true I have ZERO to lose! But it ain't! I think you're gonna see LOTS of OSASers who 'CANNOT sin" facing the Furnace of fire. OSASers keep trying to convince each other!
ScottA
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You "think."
But what you believe Once Saved Always Saved believers believe, is not what they actually believe, or why.
Yeah!
What's the point of preaching OSAS, besides OSASers trying to convince each other?
ScottA
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To give witness of the Spirit--as being "pure" and distinct, a truly new creation and not that body of flesh and blood, not that man of sin, but of God. To them alone God first convinces, the fulfillment of: "Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God."
“You are My witnesses,” says the Lord.
OSAS to be debunked needs verses from apparently Paul whom some here claim is the goto Apostle today which to me is starting to make sense, based on that being the case is there anywhere where Paul teaches salvation can be lost ?
After some online searching and even here somewhere I found this site to be compelling evidence for what some called OSAS
Assurance of Salvation - doctrine.org
Salvation is a work of God.1 More than that, salvation is solely a work of God. Assurance of salvation is possible only if salvation is a work of God alone. If salvation depended upon man’s ability, assurance of salvation would require answering…
The Hebrews author speaking about sin to believers
Hebr 12:4 In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.
1Petr 4:8 Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.
ScottA
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ScottA
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Do you not understand that the person you see ( who may indeed sin) is not the unseen new man who does not sin?
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