Trump and Politics

[amigo de christo]

The entirety of Protestantism came from the rejection of Popery, all the reformers beginning from Martin Luther and John Calvin rejected the formal teaching of the popes doctrines. Have you read Luther and Calvin and Zwingli? Those 3 were the influential reformers for the church. God changes times and seasons. And it cost a lot in blood and suffering, but that is also the way of biblical history.

Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli — Key Figures of the Protestant Reformation​

Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Calvin were three of the most influential reformers of the 16th-century Protestant Reformation, each with distinct theological emphases and reform agendas.

Martin Luther (1483–1546)
Born in Eisleben, Germany, Luther was initially trained in law but entered the Augustinian monastery in 1506. His 1517 Ninety-Five Theses challenged the sale of indulgences. A pivotal moment came in 1515–1516, when he read Romans 1:17 and concluded that salvation comes by faith alone (sola fide), not by works. Luther emphasized Scripture (sola scriptura) and the authority of the Gospel, rejecting the idea that reform could be achieved through political force Introduction to Protestantism+1. He also developed a sacramental theology in which the Eucharist was the real presence of Christ “in, with, and under” the bread and wine Wikipedia.

Ulrich Zwingli (1484–1531)
A Swiss reformer from Zurich, Zwingli was trained in Thomistic theology and influenced by Erasmus’ humanist approach. He led a radical reform in Zurich, ending the Mass, abolishing the papacy, and closing monasteries thechrist-centeredlife.com+1. Zwingli believed revelation and reason could never contradict, and he used political means to implement reform. He rejected the Eucharist as a sacrifice and taught that Christ was present spiritually, not physically, in the bread and wine Lutheran Reformation+1. His views clashed with Luther’s on the Real Presence, leading to the Marburg Colloquy in 1529, which failed to unite them Wikipedia.

John Calvin (1509–1564)
Calvin, a French theologian trained as a lawyer, became a pastor and professor in Geneva. He was deeply influenced by medieval theology and Christian humanism. His Institutes of the Christian Religion (1536) systematized Reformed theology, emphasizing God’s sovereignty, the authority of Scripture, and the importance of church order and discipline thechrist-centeredlife.com. Calvin sought to continue the work of Luther and other reformers, shaping both theology and community life in Geneva. He also contributed to the debate on sacraments, affirming the Eucharist as a spiritual means of grace Colin D Smith.

Theological and Historical Context
All three were initially loyal Catholics but became reformers in response to abuses and doctrinal errors. They shared a commitment to Scripture and reform, but differed on sacramental theology, the role of reason in faith, and the use of political power in reform Colin D Smith+1. Luther and Zwingli’s disagreement over the Eucharist at the Marburg Colloquy (1529) highlighted these differences, while Calvin’s work in Geneva influenced later Reformed traditions in Europe and beyond thechrist-centeredlife.com+1.

In summary, Luther emphasized faith and the Gospel as the sole means of reform, Zwingli combined reform with political action and a rationalist approach to Scripture, and Calvin integrated theology, church order, and community life into a systematic Reformed framework.

You ever heard the saying you can take the peoples outta the harlot , but not the harlot outta the peoples .
I would not heed zwingli or calvin . And not quite all that even luther taught .
Though of the three luther would have been the better choice .
me thinks the anabaptists were far more accurate . Though of course there were bad seeds in them as well .
You see calvin thought he could take the popes outta himself and the people
ONLY the pope never left calvin fully . That man made a church state that i would not have sat under .
And zwingli was not but a short stones throw away from that mess .
O H you can take the girl outta the trailer park but often not the trailer park outta the girl my friend .
Might i suggest a whole new strategy for us all . Its known as OBRBFY . rather odd acroymn .
So allow me to spell it out for all . OPEN BIBLE READ BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES . and quickly too .
WE in a heap of mess and specially in these very very late and very last hours upon earth . and believe me
I DO MEAN LATE and I DO MEAN LAST hours too .

 

[amigo de christo]

Ecumenical farm coming to a digital world soon . Oh yeah we been lied to by b oth sides
by even both leaders of the protestant and RCC realms as well as liberal and conservative and nar realm .
OH we all gonna be equal all right . But wont anyone love that system , cept for the elites who it was always
being prepared for ....................SO Much for redist of wealth and etc . They lied to you all and to us all .
Rather it should be called beast farm . anti christ farm , cause that was who it was always being prepared for ...................

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Calvin were three of the most influential reformers of the 16th-century Protestant Reformation, each with distinct theological emphases and reform agendas.

And all 3 FAILED to simply return to God's Word to teach the Doctrine of Christ as their efforts retained false doctrine and even introduced new false doctrine

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Ecumenical farm coming to a digital world soon . Oh yeah we been lied to by b oth sides
by even both leaders of the protestant and RCC realms as well as liberal and conservative and nar realm .
OH we all gonna be equal all right . But wont anyone love that system , cept for the elites who it was always
being prepared for ....................SO Much for redist of wealth and etc . They lied to you all and to us all .
Rather it should be called beast farm . anti christ farm , cause that was who it was always being prepared for ...................

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

You ever heard the saying you can take the peoples outta the harlot , but not the harlot outta the peoples .
I would not heed zwingli or calvin . And not quite all that even luther taught .
Though of the three luther would have been the better choice .
me thinks the anabaptists were far more accurate . Though of course there were bad seeds in them as well .
You see calvin thought he could take the popes outta himself and the people
ONLY the pope never left calvin fully . That man made a church state that i would not have sat under .
And zwingli was not but a short stones throw away from that mess .
O H you can take the girl outta the trailer park but often not the trailer park outta the girl my friend .
Might i suggest a whole new strategy for us all . Its known as OBRBFY . rather odd acroymn .
So allow me to spell it out for all . OPEN BIBLE READ BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES . and quickly too .
WE in a heap of mess and specially in these very very late and very last hours upon earth . and believe me
I DO MEAN LATE and I DO MEAN LAST hours too .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

and what do these popes
and what do many of the prostestant realm do .
What is their mission . Though both sides of politics do it a bit differently as how to attain the PEACE
OH its the same lie they both preach . same lie .
AND through interreligous dilagoue THEY DO IT .
what is this lie that so many on the left and on the right
in the RCC and realm of prosteants now beleive or are being led RIGHT TOO .
WHY THIS LIE OF COURSE .
OH GOD IS IN ALL RELIGOINS , and our GOD is no better than their god , in fact we all serve the same GOD
and his WILL is UNITY FOR PEACE .
ONLY WHO DO THA TSOUND LIKE IT IS OF
and WHO DO that sound LIKE ITS GONNA LEAD THEM ALL RIGHT TOO .
The answer
IT is of that which is of anti christ and that be exactly WHO IT WILL LEAD THEM ALL as ONE MAN and ONE HEART
and one SOLUTION for WORLD PEACE . and beleive me its solution WILL NOT BE JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY FRIENDLY .
OH NO it will target those as dividers and haters of GOD and of HIS LOVE and HIS PEACE plan .
OH YEAH its all a delusion sister , a total reprobations of minds in these last days .
And now a word .
AND HE SHALL SEND STRONG DELUSION to beleive a lie , TO THOSE WHO REJECTED THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH
whereby they might be saved . AND they will all be damned .
AND what was it paul said they would be chanting right before this SUDDEN DESTRUCTION cometh upon them all
WHY I DO BLEIEVE its the same identical message we hear from this anti christ ecumeincal harlot
PEACE N SAFETY . OH yes sister its all a set up for to prepare the world as one
RIGHT to the man of sin as ONE and Against the last sheep standing .
But what they dont realize is , IT WONT be peace n safety THEY recieve FROM GOD and THE LAMB ON HIS DAY .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

Both secular rulers and faith filled apostles are God's ministers for your good.
That's God's will for all of us.
The powers that be are ordained of God to punish evil doers, and praise those who do good deeds.
Peter and Paul teach that very thing.
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13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether it be to the king as supreme,

14 or unto governors as unto those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do well.

15 For so is the will of God, that with welldoing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men”

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3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same,

4 for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Therefore ye must be subject not only for wrath, but also for conscience’ sake.

6 For, for this cause pay ye tribute also, for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

The instruction is to submit to the laws of the land..............but nowhere is the church instructed to involve ourselves or be exercised about or insert ourselves into the government affairs of a world we are not of and are just passing through. Governments as "minister of God" speaks to God's sovereignty, and is not in the same way as the church's ministry. Our sword is not carnal.

 

[Scott Downey]

The instruction is to submit to the laws of the land..............but nowhere is the church instructed to involve ourselves or be exercised about or insert ourselves into the government affairs of a world we are not of and are just passing through. Governments as "minister of God" speaks to God's sovereignty, and is not in the same way as the church's ministry. Our sword is not carnal.

Paul and Peter call them God's ministers.
We both know that is not a spiritual ministry.
But they do minister in the government of God over you or your a lawless one.

Jesus told Peter to pay the tax, lest Peter cause offense to them, render to Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Pharisees: Is It Lawful to Pay Taxes to Caesar?​

13 Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words. 14 When they had come, they said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and [d]care about no one; for You do not [e]regard the person of men, but teach the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? 15 Shall we pay, or shall we not pay?”

But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, “Why do you test Me? Bring Me a denarius that I may see it.” 16 So they brought it.

And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

17 And Jesus answered and said to them, [f]“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

And they marveled at Him.

Peter and His Master Pay Their Taxes​

24 When they had come to [h]Capernaum, those who received the [i]temple tax came to Peter and said, “Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?”

25 He said, “Yes.”

And when he had come into the house, Jesus anticipated him, saying, “What do you think, Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth take customs or taxes, from their sons or from strangers?”

26 Peter said to Him, “From strangers.”

Jesus said to him, “Then the sons are free. 27 Nevertheless, lest we offend them, go to the sea, cast in a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened its mouth, you will find a [j]piece of money; take that and give it to them for Me and you.”

 

[Lizbeth]

and what do these popes
and what do many of the prostestant realm do .
What is their mission . Though both sides of politics do it a bit differently as how to attain the PEACE
OH its the same lie they both preach . same lie .
AND through interreligous dilagoue THEY DO IT .
what is this lie that so many on the left and on the right
in the RCC and realm of prosteants now beleive or are being led RIGHT TOO .
WHY THIS LIE OF COURSE .
OH GOD IS IN ALL RELIGOINS , and our GOD is no better than their god , in fact we all serve the same GOD
and his WILL is UNITY FOR PEACE .
ONLY WHO DO THA TSOUND LIKE IT IS OF
and WHO DO that sound LIKE ITS GONNA LEAD THEM ALL RIGHT TOO .
The answer
IT is of that which is of anti christ and that be exactly WHO IT WILL LEAD THEM ALL as ONE MAN and ONE HEART
and one SOLUTION for WORLD PEACE . and beleive me its solution WILL NOT BE JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY FRIENDLY .
OH NO it will target those as dividers and haters of GOD and of HIS LOVE and HIS PEACE plan .
OH YEAH its all a delusion sister , a total reprobations of minds in these last days .
And now a word .
AND HE SHALL SEND STRONG DELUSION to beleive a lie , TO THOSE WHO REJECTED THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH
whereby they might be saved . AND they will all be damned .
AND what was it paul said they would be chanting right before this SUDDEN DESTRUCTION cometh upon them all
WHY I DO BLEIEVE its the same identical message we hear from this anti christ ecumeincal harlot
PEACE N SAFETY . OH yes sister its all a set up for to prepare the world as one
RIGHT to the man of sin as ONE and Against the last sheep standing .
But what they dont realize is , IT WONT be peace n safety THEY recieve FROM GOD and THE LAMB ON HIS DAY .

Amen. Yes, it is the Lord who is sending/allowing delusion as judgment on a world and church that rejects Him, His truth...essentially giving them over to the devil and bondage. It's very much a heart issue that goes way beyond/above mere political opinions, and the consequences will be reaped.

 

[amigo de christo]

The instruction is to submit to the laws of the land..............but nowhere is the church instructed to involve ourselves or be exercised about or insert ourselves into the government affairs of a world we are not of and are just passing through. Governments as "minister of God" speaks to God's sovereignty, and is not in the same way as the church's ministry. Our sword is not carnal.

I notice something real clear dear sister .
When Trump was in office in twenty sixteen they hollered the same things .
Rather odd that when biden was in office not the same .
Then again in twenty twenty and four they holler the same thing .
it seems when THEY man is in power we ought to submit to their misinterpreation of pauls letter to the romans .
You , my dear sister , are correct on this subject .
While we are to pray for them , we are not to have done what these now do .
And bad as biden was and wicked as the liberal left is ,
what has been done by the right as a man clearly puts photos of himself up and then tries
to cover it by saying , oH i was just showing myself to be a doctor .
REALLY . THEN WHY COME did TRUMP PUT a christ like photo , dr essed in RELIGIOUS ATTIRE
The only reason the man backtracked on it was cause he was getting correction from even SOME of his own supporters .
BUT HAD he really been showing himself to be a doctor , WHY IN RELIGIOUS ATTIRE
and WHY so Christ like in appearance . WHY not rather as a DOCTOR in doctors at tire .
TRUMP might be fooling them , BUT NOT ME SISTER .
NO MAN puts such a photo up LIKE THAT ONE . Unless that man sees himself as a very v ery great and mighty one
as a savoir and as THE SAVOIR . HE can lie to them but i wont buy into it .
HE even admitted HE PUT THAT PHOTO ON HIS OWN accord . THEN tries to downplay it later
He aint fooling me sister . HE is fooling THEM .

 

[amigo de christo]

The instruction is to submit to the laws of the land..............but nowhere is the church instructed to involve ourselves or be exercised about or insert ourselves into the government affairs of a world we are not of and are just passing through. Governments as "minister of God" speaks to God's sovereignty, and is not in the same way as the church's ministry. Our sword is not carnal.

TRUMP , live before the cameras ADMITTED HE PUT THIS PHOTO UP on his own accord .
NOW LOOK real closely at it .
THEN he says I meant it to be as a doctor .
WHO is he fooling . If he meant to be seen as a doctor healing
THEN WHY THE RELIGIOUS ATTTIRE , WHY THE CHRIST LIKE APPEARANCE .
N o . The only reason he backtracked was due to he got some correction from some of his own supporters .
But i want us all to take a real good long look at this picture .
LOOK AT IT .
Then wonder and then ask yourselves , HOW does this man really SEE HIMSELF .
Poor fellow must be listening to paula white too much and began beleiving it .
Either way , I smell a very strong PRIDE on that one .

 

[amigo de christo]

Paul and Peter call them God's ministers.
We both know that is not a spiritual ministry.
But they do minister in the government of God over you or your a lawless one.

Jesus told Peter to pay the tax, lest Peter cause offense to them, render to Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Pharisees: Is It Lawful to Pay Taxes to Caesar?​

13 Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words. 14 When they had come, they said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and [d]care about no one; for You do not [e]regard the person of men, but teach the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? 15 Shall we pay, or shall we not pay?”

But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, “Why do you test Me? Bring Me a denarius that I may see it.” 16 So they brought it.

And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

17 And Jesus answered and said to them, [f]“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

And they marveled at Him.

Peter and His Master Pay Their Taxes​

24 When they had come to [h]Capernaum, those who received the [i]temple tax came to Peter and said, “Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?”

25 He said, “Yes.”

And when he had come into the house, Jesus anticipated him, saying, “What do you think, Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth take customs or taxes, from their sons or from strangers?”

26 Peter said to Him, “From strangers.”

Jesus said to him, “Then the sons are free. 27 Nevertheless, lest we offend them, go to the sea, cast in a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened its mouth, you will find a [j]piece of money; take that and give it to them for Me and you.”

Trump admitted , of his own accord , HE PUT this photo up of himself .
THEN later , on camera for all to see , admits he did so
BUT MEANT it only as himself being a DOCTOR and a healer .
KINDA ODD SCOTT . IF he ORGINALLY MEANT it to be seen as A DOCTOR Like appearance
WOULD you or anyone else mind telling me
WHY ON EARTH DID IT HAVE SUCH A RELIGIOUS APPEARANCE , IN RELIGIOUS ATTIRE and CHRISTLIKE in nature .
You all have no idea the amount of pride on this man .

 

[Lizbeth]

Paul and Peter call them God's ministers.
We both know that is not a spiritual ministry.
But they do minister in the government of God over you or your a lawless one.

Jesus told Peter to pay the tax, lest Peter cause offense to them, render to Caesar what is Caesar's.

The Pharisees: Is It Lawful to Pay Taxes to Caesar?​

13 Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words. 14 When they had come, they said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and [d]care about no one; for You do not [e]regard the person of men, but teach the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? 15 Shall we pay, or shall we not pay?”

But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, “Why do you test Me? Bring Me a denarius that I may see it.” 16 So they brought it.

And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

17 And Jesus answered and said to them, [f]“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

And they marveled at Him.

Peter and His Master Pay Their Taxes​

24 When they had come to [h]Capernaum, those who received the [i]temple tax came to Peter and said, “Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?”

25 He said, “Yes.”

And when he had come into the house, Jesus anticipated him, saying, “What do you think, Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth take customs or taxes, from their sons or from strangers?”

26 Peter said to Him, “From strangers.”

Jesus said to him, “Then the sons are free. 27 Nevertheless, lest we offend them, go to the sea, cast in a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have opened its mouth, you will find a [j]piece of money; take that and give it to them for Me and you.”

Yes, obey the laws and pay the taxes, honour the authorities. As long as it doesn't cross a line into offending the Lord and disobeying HIS laws.

Now, what about unjust laws that threaten survival? Would believers be obliged in God's sight to obey such laws? For example, in the days of serfs and vassals where only the nobility were allowed to own land and the common people were kept down in conditions of starvation or near starvation. Would someone have been wrong in God's sight to quietly hunt a rabbit on the landlord's vast properties of woodlands and fields to feed themselves and their otherwise starving family? Even though it was against the law at the time (laws which favoured the nobility who made the laws).

 

[Wrangler]

The instruction is to submit to the laws of the land..............but nowhere is the church instructed to involve ourselves or be exercised about or insert ourselves into the government affairs

Total denial. This is precisely what Jesus put on us with Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s.

And we are so blessed in being citizens compared to subjects of the empire in Jesus’ day. Our government expects us to provide more than treasure but guidance and participation.

Today’s over-spiritualized Christians ignore our God given responsibility to DO JUSTICE. Micah 6:8.

 

[Scott Downey]

Joseph ruled over Egypt as Pharoah saw in him the Spirit of God, and he was made ruler over Egypt, and that was the will of God for the entire region to preserve many people alive.
Now what if Joseph had looked at Egypt, this culture which had enslaved and mistreated him, thought of the injustice of the land, their idol worship of many false demonic gods, and had refused to serve the one true God as ruler in the land of Egypt?

Genesis 45
3 Then Joseph said to his brothers, “I am Joseph; does my father still live?” But his brothers could not answer him, for they were dismayed in his presence. 4 And Joseph said to his brothers, “Please come near to me.” So they came near. Then he said: “I am Joseph your brother, whom you sold into Egypt. 5 But now, do not therefore be grieved or angry with yourselves because you sold me here; for God sent me before you to preserve life. 6 For these two years the famine has been in the land, and there are still five years in which there will be neither plowing nor harvesting. 7 And God sent me before you to preserve a [a]posterity for you in the earth, and to save your lives by a great deliverance. 8 So now it was not you who sent me here, but God; and He has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house, and a ruler throughout all the land of Egypt.

9 “Hurry and go up to my father, and say to him, ‘Thus says your son Joseph: “God has made me lord of all Egypt; come down to me, do not [b]tarry. 10 You shall dwell in the land of Goshen, and you shall be near to me, you and your children, your children’s children, your flocks and your herds, and all that you have. 11 There I will provide for you, lest you and your household, and all that you have, come to poverty; for there are still five years of famine.” ’


Genesis 41, setting the stage
15 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, “I have had a dream, and there is no one who can interpret it. But I have heard it said of you that you can understand a dream, to interpret it.”

16 So Joseph answered Pharaoh, saying, “It is not in me; God will give Pharaoh an answer of peace.”

17 Then Pharaoh said to Joseph: “Behold, in my dream I stood on the bank of the river. 18 Suddenly seven cows came up out of the river, fine looking and fat; and they fed in the meadow. 19 Then behold, seven other cows came up after them, poor and very ugly and gaunt, such ugliness as I have never seen in all the land of Egypt. 20 And the gaunt and ugly cows ate up the first seven, the fat cows. 21 When they had eaten them up, no one would have known that they had eaten them, for they were just as ugly as at the beginning. So I awoke. 22 Also I saw in my dream, and suddenly seven [a]heads came up on one stalk, full and good. 23 Then behold, seven heads, withered, thin, and blighted by the east wind, sprang up after them. 24 And the thin heads devoured the seven good heads. So I told this to the magicians, but there was no one who could explain it to me.”

25 Then Joseph said to Pharaoh, “The dreams of Pharaoh are one; God has shown Pharaoh what He is about to do: 26 The seven good cows are seven years, and the seven good [b]heads are seven years; the dreams are one. 27 And the seven thin and ugly cows which came up after them are seven years, and the seven empty heads blighted by the east wind are seven years of famine. 28 This is the thing which I have spoken to Pharaoh. God has shown Pharaoh what He is about to do. 29 Indeed seven years of great plenty will come throughout all the land of Egypt; 30 but after them seven years of famine will arise, and all the plenty will be forgotten in the land of Egypt; and the famine will deplete the land. 31 So the plenty will not be known in the land because of the famine following, for it will be very severe. 32 And the dream was repeated to Pharaoh twice because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

33 “Now therefore, let Pharaoh select a discerning and wise man, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34 Let Pharaoh do this, and let him appoint [c]officers over the land, to collect one-fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven plentiful years. 35 And let them gather all the food of those good years that are coming, and store up grain under the [d]authority of Pharaoh, and let them keep food in the cities. 36 Then that food shall be as a [e]reserve for the land for the seven years of famine which shall be in the land of Egypt, that the land may not [f]perish during the famine.”

Joseph’s Rise to Power​

37 So the advice was good in the eyes of Pharaoh and in the eyes of all his servants. 38 And Pharaoh said to his servants, “Can we find such a one as this, a man in whom is the Spirit of God?”

39 Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, “Inasmuch as God has shown you all this, there is no one as discerning and wise as you. 40 You shall be [g]over my house, and all my people shall be ruled according to your word; only in regard to the throne will I be greater than you.” 41 And Pharaoh said to Joseph, “See, I have set you over all the land of Egypt.”

42 Then Pharaoh took his signet ring off his hand and put it on Joseph’s hand; and he clothed him in garments of fine linen and put a gold chain around his neck. 43 And he had him ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried out before him, “Bow the knee!” So he set him over all the land of Egypt. 44 Pharaoh also said to Joseph, “I am Pharaoh, and without your consent no man may lift his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt.” 45 And Pharaoh called Joseph’s name [h]Zaphnath-Paaneah. And he gave him as a wife Asenath, the daughter of Poti-Pherah priest of On. So Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt.

46 Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. 47 Now in the seven plentiful years the ground brought forth [i]abundantly. 48 So he gathered up all the food of the seven years which were in the land of Egypt, and laid up the food in the cities; he laid up in every city the food of the fields which surrounded them. 49 Joseph gathered very much grain, as the sand of the sea, until he stopped counting, for it was immeasurable.
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But many would rather curse those who God has raised up in power over them. To also perhaps preserve many lives. Nothing happens without God's purpose in the earth and the Kingdom of God is in charge over the earth, and all who live therein.

 

[Lizbeth]

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TRUMP , live before the cameras ADMITTED HE PUT THIS PHOTO UP on his own accord .
NOW LOOK real closely at it .
THEN he says I meant it to be as a doctor .
WHO is he fooling . If he meant to be seen as a doctor healing
THEN WHY THE RELIGIOUS ATTTIRE , WHY THE CHRIST LIKE APPEARANCE .
N o . The only reason he backtracked was due to he got some correction from some of his own supporters .
But i want us all to take a real good long look at this picture .
LOOK AT IT .
Then wonder and then ask yourselves , HOW does this man really SEE HIMSELF .
Poor fellow must be listening to paula white too much and began beleiving it .
Either way , I smell a very strong PRIDE on that one .

Yes, I've seen it. Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks, or in this case, the picture speaks.

I hope this isn't presumptuous to talk about out loud.......only God knows anyone's true motives at bottom....but I have wondered if his conscience is starting to trouble him now that he is getting old and nearer to death, and in his mind he wants to try and make up for past sins....? If so, it is at least a step in the right direction.

Nevertheless, I believe the Lord is working through everything ultimately, His will to perform, on many levels. But can't help but think what a victory it would be and glorifying to God if this man were to be saved in the end. That is my prayer. At some point, after "7 times" of madness and being like a beast, Nebby came around and his repentance was beautiful to see (Daniel 4), so I believe there is reason to hope for that. (That being a separate subject from political and geopolitical things.)

 

[Wrangler]

I have wondered if his conscience is starting to trouble him now that he is getting old and nearer to death

Trump lived a life better than 99.9% of people who ever lived. Yet, regret is an inevitable part of life. Not only for your part but in relationships that did not stand the test of time. Divorce and the death of his brother due to alcoholism.

In resolving 8 conflicts his first year in office 2.0, he said being a peacemaker is his most important accomplishment of his life, which he believes he's on a mission from God.

War is the most difficult thing any leader contends with. I am inspired by Ecclesiastes, there is a time for peace and a time for war. We all must embrace this wisdom.

I hope this isn't presumptuous to talk about out loud .... what a victory it would be and glorifying to God if this man were to be saved in the end.

I take people at their word who say they are a Christian. Trump says he's a Christian. That's good enough for me. The rest is between him and our God. As it is with us and our God.

 

[Brakelite]

Not my original writing....

THE ILLUSION OF CONFLICT
How THE Trump–Papal Clash Masks A Coming Union OF Power

The present clash of words between Donald Trump and Pope Leo XIV has captured global attention. To many observers, it appears to be a genuine conflict, sharp, public, even personal. One speaks with political force, the other with moral restraint. One advances national strength, the other pleads for peace. And so the conclusion is quickly drawn: "These two powers stand opposed to each other. Surely this disproves any idea that they could ever unite."

But that conclusion rests on a shallow reading of events. History, Scripture and careful observation all warn us that what appears on the surface is not always the true movement underneath. Public tension does not necessarily mean private separation. In fact, it often serves the opposite purpose.

When one steps back and examines these seemingly war of words more carefully, something far more subtle begins to emerge. The disagreement itself is unreal, and its function is hidden. It is not dismantling the relationship between religious authority and political power, it is refining it, shaping it, preparing minds to accept a future alignment under the illusion that such unity would be necessary, even righteous.

Consider how the roles are being played out before the world. Donald Trump speaks with the language of power, security, war, national interest. Pope Leo XIV speaks with the language of conscience, peace, morality, global responsibility. These are not mutually exclusive forces. They are complementary. One compels. The other persuades. One enforces. The other legitimizes.

This is the very combination that history has shown to be most effective in guiding and controlling societies.

In past ages, the union of religious influence and state authority did not begin with open agreement. It was often preceded by visible tension, by moments where the two appeared to stand apart. Yet beneath those moments, cooperation continued, relationships remained intact, and eventually, unity emerged, not as something forced upon the people, but as something welcomed by them.

The present situation follows that same pattern.

Even now, despite the sharp rhetoric, there is no true severing of ties between the United States and the Vatican. Diplomatic channels remain. Mutual influence continues. The apparent divide exists largely in the realm of public perception, where it performs a very specific function: it convinces the watching world that these two powers are independent, even incompatible. And that belief is very important to their end times agenda.

Because when the time comes for closer alignment, especially in the face of a created global crisis, the world will not see it as a dangerous consolidation of power. Instead, it will be viewed as a necessary coming together of former rivals for the "greater good." What once seemed divided will now unite, and that unity will be embraced precisely because the division appeared so real beforehand.

This is where many critics of prophetic interpretation unintentionally play their role. When they point to this present conflict and say, “Look, these powers are clearly opposed, there can be no collaboration,” they are responding exactly as the moment encourages them to respond. They are taking the surface narrative at face value. They are mistaking appearance for reality.

In doing so, they help reinforce the very illusion that makes future developments more acceptable.

The issue is not whether disagreement exists. The issue is whether this disagreement equals disunity at a structural level. History answers that question clearly: IT DOES NOT. Powers can disagree publicly while still moving within a shared framework of influence and long-term alignment.

More importantly, the prophetic outline does not describe a constant, visible harmony between these powers from the beginning. It points to a progression, a development, where influence deepens, cooperation strengthens and eventually authority is combined in a way that shapes the world religiously, politically, and economically.

What we are witnessing now fits within that progression, not outside of it.

The current exchange between Donald Trump and Pope Leo XIV is not proof that such a union cannot happen. It is part of the process by which the world is being conditioned to accept this union, even call for it.

It creates the illusion of independence while secretly preparing the structure for unity. It builds contrast so that future convergence appears meaningful and necessary. It draws global attention to both powers, elevating their voices, increasing their influence, and positioning them as central figures in the resolution of international crises.

This is how large-scale deception often works, not through obvious falsehood, but through partial truth carefully framed. People are not misled because they see nothing real; they are misled because they see only part of what is real.
And so the greater danger is not the conflict itself, but the interpretation of it.

If one assumes that visible disagreement proves permanent separation, then one is unprepared for sudden alignment. If one believes that these powers cannot work together, then one will not recognize the significance when they do.

The wiser course is to look beyond the moment, to trace the pattern, to understand how influence operates over time. When that is done, the present situation no longer appears as a contradiction, but as a stage with a larger unfolding scene.

What is being built is not merely a political or religious moment, but a framework, one that brings together authority, influence, and global reach in a way that can guide the direction of nations and the conscience of peoples.

And when that framework is finally revealed in its fullness, many will accept it without hesitation, because they were first convinced it could never exist.

Gospel Angels Broadcasting

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Amen. Yes, it is the Lord who is sending/allowing delusion as judgment on a world and church that rejects Him, His truth...essentially giving them over to the devil and bondage. It's very much a heart issue that goes way beyond/above mere political opinions, and the consequences will be reaped.

And let's keep in mind that the Lord is not actually the One trying to deceive people. No, He is allowing people to reap what they have sown when they refused His leading and correction so "God sending delusion" is permissive as in God is allowing people to rep what they have sown - they sowed to the flesh and are reaping corruption (Gal 6:7,8)

James 1:13-15
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Romans 1:28
Even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient

Psalm 81:12
So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.

Proverbs 1:24-33
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

 

[Wrangler]

God is allowing people to rep what they have sown - they sowed to the flesh and are reaping corruption (Gal 6:7,8)

And on the other side of the narrow path is over-spiritualization, reaping what you don't sow. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 If you don't work, you don't eat.

In our national guilt, this lack of discipline to fleshy constraints is seen in $39T in debt and $127T in unfunded liabilities. No wonder the 3rd horse of the apocalypse is the collapse of the global economy.