Gal 2:2 ....and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,
What verses did you quote as the gospel that Paul refers to as that gospel ?
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What verses did you quote as the gospel that Paul refers to as that gospel ?
I Concur....
Luke 4:43 But He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose."
Luke 8:1 Soon afterwards, He began going around from one city and village to another, proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God. The twelve were with Him,
Luk 9:1 And He called the twelve together, and gave them power and authority over all the demons and to heal diseases. 2 And He sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to perform healing.
Luke 18:31 Then He took the twelve aside and said to them, "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all things which are written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. 32 "For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and mistreated and spit upon, 33 and after they have scourged Him, they will kill Him; and the third day He will rise again." 34 But the disciples understood none of these things, and the meaning of this statement was hidden from them, and they did not comprehend the things that were said.
John 20:9 For as yet they did not understand the Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead.
So…. The gospel was announced before Jesus died on the cross! Yet they did not understand… that He must rise again from the dead.
Mar 1:14 Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, 15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
Mat 4:23 Jesus was going throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and Proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness among the people.
Mat 9:35 Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.
Yet they did not understand… that He must rise again from the dead.
And after his resurrection…
Act 1:3 To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.
Act 1:6 So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?"
Act 19:8 And he entered the synagogue and continued speaking out boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading them about the kingdom of God.
Act 20:25 "And now, behold, I know that all of you, among whom I went about preaching the kingdom, will no longer see my face.
Act 28:23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening.
What was added to the Gospel of the Kingdom….
Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being baptized, men and women alike.
Act 28:23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening.
Jesus and the 12 went about teaching the kingdom of God and performing healing…for 3 years… All with out knowing … they will kill Him; and the thirdday He will rise again." But the disciples understood none of these things!
So what I would like from you… Aunty... is to proclaiming the Gospel of the kingdom of God… without talking about the death and resurrection of Jesus. Like Jesus did for so many years!
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Aunty Jane
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And who is responsible for all those so called “Christian” sects? Who is the father of the lie? They have all swallow the same lies…..no doctrines in Christendom originated from the Bible…they simply copied apostate Roman Catholicism on a path to destruction. So all are simply different versions of the same lies under different banners.
Yet, there is a diamond in that pile of broken glass….those who find it come to be among those who have also found it….they aren’t divided in this world, but are “drawn” together by God’s spirit to enjoy fellowship with one another as a global brotherhood…..not just local and certainly not in isolation.
No one was written in “the book of life“ before the creation of the world…..do you support predestination?
The “foundation of the world”, I hope you know, is the world of sinful mankind descended from Adam….before the fall there was no need for a book of life…..all naturally would have had it bestowed upon them by access to “the tree of life”….only after the fall was that access denied. (Gen 3:22-24)
Only then would man die, and be in need of redemption.
God is a reader of hearts, not minds….he knows those who will respond to his truth and at the right time, and he “draws” them, giving them an opportunity to come to know him and his precious Son. …..no one can come to the Son, without an invitation from his Father. (John 6:44; 65) Those whom God draws, do what the first Christians did…they gathered with like-minded ones, and preached their truth to others. (1 Cor 3:5-9)
When a lost sheep was found…there was somewhere to send them.
I tried a few different translations on this verse, but found the Darby version more accurate than others….
“I know, Jehovah, that the way of man is not his own; it is not in a man that walketh to direct his steps.”
This is not saying that God directs our steps against our will….predetermining some to accept Jesus and not others.
When God created humans, the one thing he did not give them was limitless free will. As a gift, free will was designed to facilitate many decisions of personal choice that would enhance life in paradise….
But God did not give humans dominion over one another, but only over the animal kingdom. He would be the one to determine how they would walk by giving them guidance and direction….as long as they followed that direction, no evil would come to them. God was going to be the one to direct their steps...but not forced on them…they had to follow that direction out of their free will, seeing the benefits of doing the will of their loving God.
Satan stepped in and messed that all up. Now we are governed by men who cannot even direct their own steps.
Who are “the chosen ones” and for what are they chosen?
I’m saying that God has proved true to his word….he has gathered his chosen ones into one cohesive and loving brotherhood who are no part of this world, and it’s evil doings, but who, as a global community drawn by love, take care of each other and share what they have with their less fortunate brothers and sisters.
We take the word of God out to our communities….we don’t wait for “the lost sheep” to wander in…we go out and search for them, as Jesus told us to. Any who respond are offered a place with us in the new world to come, free of charge…..we have no paid clergy and our literature is also free. When money becomes the main focus in the church, that is a fair indicator that Jesus has left the building.
We are all well fed spiritually, and there are no divisions among us….no spiritual disagreements, no political divisions, and no involvement in the world that satan controls. We are admonished not to be materialistic, but to be content with the necessities of life….we don’t want to be like the world forever chasing the new things…the latest model…..the never ending money trail.
Aunty Jane
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It was the same gospel as Jesus preached to the Jews, only with a different audience, the message had to be tailored to them….
Paul’s address to the men of Athens was masterful…..no fisherman would have even had an audience with these learned philosophers.
The good news of the kingdom is the gospel they all preached…..so what is it?
The request is for the verses, we can discuss the verses once you list the verses.
Here is the request again.
Gal 2:2 ....and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,
What verses did you quote as the gospel that Paul refers to as that gospel ?
Aunty Jane
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Apparently I am not answering the question in a way that gives you the opportunity to answer the way you want to….
I have given you my answer….perhaps if you give us your response and tell us what you think Paul means y “the gospel he preached”…. we can go from there……? I know what I believe, but I am not sure what it is you think Paul preached that was different to what the other apostles preached.
Still waiting for the verses that Paul is referring to in Gal 2:2 as THAT GOSPEL
Opinions can be discussed when you supply the verses.
Aunty Jane
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Since I have no idea what you want…the discussion has come to an end…interesting dodge though….
It was a simple polite request for the verses that are THAT GOSPEL that Paul is referring to in Gal 2:2, since you are unable to supply them I understand your inability to continue this discussion.
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