Who, can Not Sin and Why?
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ScottA
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I missed this one. Picking up where we left off, regarding your replies 1-2-3 in order"
- Being "boastfully wrong about matters of God" (as I said) is not necessarily a loss of salvation. God is Judge. Which may include the fact that such a one was not saved in the first place. But for the saved, Jesus included certain of the saved in "weeping and gnashing of teeth" and "cutting you in two"--which is to say, cutting short ones full salvation benefit during these times of "we who are alive and remain" in this world. As it is written.
- No, as above, I was referring to you and your actions.
- That is not at all what I said. I was referring to the Holy Spirit who is without sin speaking in and through me. As for me, I am a sinner, but I am not here acting in that capacity. As for your assumption that I am "too proud to admit it"--you apparently have not read my confession/testimony--it it no secret. It is here on more than one Testimony tread, and I have also given it here many other times as well. But the fact that you assume such, it is obvious that you have not given proper consideration to what I have been saying, which is:
There are two separate births of those who are born again, and thus two separate bodies, one each. You apparently believe those born again have only one body, so continue to sin while lying about it. But that is wrong. The body of sin, sins. The body born in second birth of the spirit of God "cannot sin, because he has been born of God."
Meanwhile you have been accusing those born of God (God) of continual sin--actually accusing God of sin. Now that I have told you this, you will be held accountable for your actions, for accusing God of sin if you continue to do so, as an act of you yourself committing continual sin. You asked, and I have told you. Amen!
You evade the Scriptures I posted and smokescreen with YOUR opinions.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins ...
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What sins Did…
Saul: Paul, John… confess?
You don’t Obviously Know.
They WERE under Mosaic Law…!!!
…THEY knew what Mosaic Laws ARE a SIN for them to Violate.
THEY KNEW if THEY violated a Mosaic Law…AND ASKED For Forgiveness .
THEY were Teachers to OTHER JEWS, under Mosaic Laws, teaching THEM, to Repent of Mosaic Law Violations…
TODAY…Absent of a Jewish Temple, for Jews Under Mosaic Law, to Take a “(Sin Offering to the Temple for slaughter, for forgiveness of THEIR Sins against Mosaic Laws)…
** Continue their day of Atonement…without a Temple, without an animal Offer to Slaughter….
In These days…THEY Repent On Yom Kippur.
Do YOU?
I Don’t.
I am neither, Jewish or Under Mosaic Law!!.
I CAN NOT violate a Law, That DOES NOT Apply to me!!
Ya think…John and Paul … While under Mosaic Law….NEVER Repented of “THEIR SINS”… of Violating Mosaic Laws?
John and Paul… both became … saved souls and Born Again, AND FORGIVEN of their … Doubts, in Jesus being THEIR Christ Messiah…
by, Through, Of… THEIR Heartful Committed
Belief IN Christ Jesus, Being THEIR Messiah…
And, DO you Think… Paul and John… forgot…
They were Sinners for Doubting, not Believing, then Believed…were Forgiven….And …Then we’re ONLY teaching JEWS who BELIEVED?
Of can YOU “Understand” John and Paul both were Teaching JEWS… How they Too could be … no longer subject to Mosaic Law…. How they too could be forgiven Believers in Christ Jesus, their Messiah?
Why do you think… Mosaic Laws… that were SINS for Jews to violate … Are Sins unto me…a Gentile NOT under Mosaic Law?
And?
Your point?
You think, Paul and John HAD no Sin?
Obviously … They Did….
Otherwise what IDIOT asks for Forgiveness of a SIN they Don’t Believe they Have?
My SIN… WAS:
Being naturally born…NOT Believing in God or His Word (Jesus) or His Power (Christ) or His SEED (Christ)….
Bummer!
I Learned… over a course of Years… God Offered … an ORDER and WAY… OF My SIN of UNBELIEF….
By, Through, Of Christ the Lord Jesus and The Lamb of God…
THAT:
MY SIN… of Unbelief…Could Be…ONCE and FOREVER…. Forgiven…
AND THAT:
By, Through, Of Gods “POWER, ORDER and WAY”…
I would be “INCAPABLE” of Ever Again Committing the SIN of Unbelief, Against the Lord God Almighty”.
And NOT News as I have Testified…
I TOOK Gods Offering, and ONCE and Forever AM Forgiven.
What IDIOT…thinks…and teaches…
* A person is accountable for What an other, thinks, believes, teaches?
* A person Asking God to forgive their Sin…
Is a person who is claiming to HAVE no sin?
* A person Forgiven their Sin…
HAS no Forgiven Sin?
* A person Having Forgiven Sin, is Without their Forgiven Sin….( and somehow Sinless )?
* That a person SHOULD pay close Attention to Scriptures… that DO NOT Apply to Them?
* That doesn’t Know, sinless, means NEVER having HAD Sin!
Taken…(a tiny clue, regarding my own Testimony)!
Amen! Absolutely…the keeping power greater than all power.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
Because they didn't list each sin? lol
You don't know that Jesus had already shed His Blood for the New Covenant? And Paul was preaching against the Law of Moses??? Now you know.
Matthew 26:28
28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
I.E ZERO Scripture, smokescreen!
Confess! Receive forgiveness before it's too late!
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
Be like this guy.
Luke 18:10-14
13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!' 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
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Without reservation…YES.
Do, I have to LIKE such neighbors ? No
Can I ALSO hate such neighbors? Yes.
What does hate mean? A Strong dislike.
I love the Lord.
I like the Lord.
I love all People.
I do not like all people.
I do hate (strongly dislike) some people.
Have I, do I, can I…. Lend a hand, aid, comfort, people I do not Like, I hate? Yes.
It is Not so much… the Dislike, Hate…that gives rise to … to constant conflicts… but Rather….
PRECEPTS (ie. Behaviors, treatment, between and among men)…that gets funky, when Love is Absent.
The Lord Loves All people… while at the same time, dislikes and strongly dislikes (hates) some of those same people.
For example…
A wife can Love her husband, and Hate him for lying…at the same.
The lying, does Not effect her Love for him…
The lying, would effect her Trust in him….
And certainly, she could Hate him for that.
Disagree.
In THIS Life… I chose to Take Gods Offering… that His Power Dwells IN me, and Keeps MY Belief IN Him, Forever.
Never Again, Can I sin (not Believe In God)… be against God.
I have NO requirement, to Believe IN men.
I have no requirement… to Like, Trust, Follow, Mimic, Agree with, Worship, Exalt, Comfort, to give Charity, Help, Aid, Work and Dole out Freebies to other men.
My Requirement is to Love the Lord God Above All and Love All other men…
Sure…FOR TRESPASSES…. Of men against men!
Men TRESPASS against men and certainly there is a protocol, for men to ask and forgive men For Trespassing.
And IF a man Trespasses against an other, and apologizes and corrects the Trespass….and the other REFUSES to forgive him…
God will intervene and Forgive the Trespass, the man (when asked) refused to Forgive.
I Have Christ…. In Me.
I confessed my Sin to Him and He forgave me.
I Trust HIS Forgiveness, remains Constant, and Does Not Require Repeating.
I Trust His Power IN me, is sufficient to Keep His Forgiveness Constant.
No, I do NOT repeatedly ASK Him, for what He Has Already Given me.
Sure, One day, we shall SEE the manifestation of our Own Glorified Bodies…
Meantime…I Live IN Christ Jesus’ Risen Glorified Body and His Spirit of Truth…
And … “IF”…
As you “imply” I can Still Sin…
How would that (if it were possible) AFFECT Christ Jesus’ Glorified Body, (in which I dwell)?
Wouldn’t THAT… mean…Christ Jesus Would have SIN IN His glorified Body?
(God Forbid, to believe such a thing).
I do…. Without preaching… men IN Christ Continue to Sin and Should continue Asking For Forgiveness they have Already Received.
Thank you.
God Bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
You are so busy dictating words, you reveal you are severely defunct in understanding, that words fulfilled, do not require a tiresome barrage of the same words over and over and over…
It is as dumb… as…
Me saying to you…
Sweep your porch…
You saying… You swept your porch…
And me saying to you 15 more times …
To sweep your porch…
Dumb!
Convert-ED, soul sav-ED, spirit quicken-ED,
Men, ARE NOT, nor will Ever Be “IN the Fire”!
So WHY… do you think your preaching to the Convert-ED… is you pulling the Convert-ED out of the Fire…?
Don’t YOU Understand… the Convert-ED…
By the Lords Works IN Them…Will Never be “in the Fire”!
A diligent Student of Scripture AND one masquerading as a teacher…
Should KNOW what SIN means!
No.
What I know is…
* the Lord fulfilled the Mosaic Law.
* the Lord did NOT destroy the Law.
* Many JEWS had not heard, learned the Lord had Fulfilled the Law.
* May JEWS were still following the Mosaic Law.
* JEWS who choose to continue following Mosaic Law, means the Law still applies to them.
* Paul was NOT preaching AGAINST the Law!!!
* Paul preached Fulfillment of Mosaic Law.
Now YOU should know …
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
Sin is unbelief.
If you have confessed your unbelief (sin) and have received the Holy Spirit, and have been converted,
You can not remain in unbelief.
You can however choose to walk away and fall back into unbelief, which is an insult or blasphemy of the Holy Ghost which will never be forgiven in this world or the next.
But if you remain in belief through the Holy Spirit which is given to all men who believe, then you can not sin against God.
Because the only Sin that God holds man accountable for, in the end, is their belief in Him.
Jhn 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
If you have confessed your unbelief (sin) and have received the Holy Spirit, and have been converted,
You can not remain in unbelief.
You can however choose to walk away and fall back into unbelief, which is an insult or blasphemy of the Holy Ghost which will never be forgiven in this world or the next.
But if you remain in belief through the Holy Spirit which is given to all men who believe, then you can not sin against God.
Because the only Sin that God holds man accountable for, in the end, is their belief in Him.
Jhn 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
The following APPLIES to:
A follower
An “unconverted” Believer… who walked Away…never having Agreed, to Conversion.
The preceding is Not about a converted man.
The Caveat is:
If
That IF applies to “an unconverted Believer”…
WHO Mortally Dies While Believing…
Then
Shall his soul be Saved.
ALL promises of Salvation…occur Before a mans Mortal Death.
ALL “giving/ receiving” of The gift of Salvation Occurs…AFTER that mans Body “IS Accounted Dead”.
The Accounts is according to Gods Record Books.
A man… forgiven and Converted and Crucified With Jesus’ Body…
“Is Accounted Dead”.
His name Remains in Gods Book of Life.
His name is Entered into the Lambs Book of Life.
God Shall in the First Resurrection, Redeem They Only appearing in Gods Book of Life.
The Lord Shall Redeem, Rapture, they entered in the Lambs Book of Life….
They who were forgiven, crucified with Jesus, Given the Holy Spirit, and dwelt IN Jesus’ risen body… until their own mortal death…
They still living are called….
In Christ… ARE Baptized…ARE saved… ARE Born Again…ARE Christs Church…ARE not appointed to Suffer Gods Wrath and End days Tribulations…ARE accounted SEALED Only unto the The Lord God, (Evil spirits have no power to seduce / trick them)…
ARE Going to be Risen in Glory.
Yes…
And Then… Who and When they are Claimed/ redeemed…
1 Thes 4:
God Claims… they who mortally Died believing in…Jesus.
Christ Jesus Claims… they who believed in Jesus is the Christ, confessed and became converted, being crucified With Jesus.
1 Thes 4:
[14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Remember…
God gave Some to Jesus…
Which by default God Kept some for Himself.
John 18:
[9] That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
God Bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
Believing you NEVER sin is LYING to yourself!
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
Yeah, God's Words.
No Scripture? Of course not!
Wow, such irony!
No Scripture?
You've never read the NT?
Matthew 5:22 Whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
OSAS / doctrine of demons!
You asked what their sins were. They didn't itemize them for you. lol
Really?
Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse
I do know. I've studied the Law for years! It's "obsolete".
I am well acquainted with Scripture.
I am Wise enough to CHERRYPICK, the Scriptures that APPLY to me…
And Notice Which Scriptures DO Not Apply to me!
You are neither qualified or have the understanding to CHERRYPICK which Scriptures Applicable to me, or not.
You should learn the meaning of words!
Obsolete means no longer used!!
Jesus did NOT destroy the Law, nor Prevent its Use!
Matt 5:
[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Keep reading, what the word actually says and learn what words mean!
Oh that's right, you said you CANNOT sin. John disagreed!
1 John 1:8-10
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
Do you confess your sins?
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