Who, can Not Sin and Why?

[Jack]

You should learn the meaning of words!

Obsolete means no longer used!!

It means exactly what it says, not your interpretation.

Hebrews 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Jesus did NOT destroy the Law, nor Prevent its Use!

Matt 5:
[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Keep reading, what the word actually says and learn what words mean!

Christians are not under the Law, period!

 

[Taken]

Believing you NEVER sin is LYING to yourself!

Even an idiot would know, Christ does not dwell in Sin… And Christ Dwells IN converted men.

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

So?
How many times are you going to post the Same irrelevant Scripture to me?

Never ONCE Have I said such an ignorant thing…

Why don’t you stop making False accusations?
It really is disturbing the lengths you go to..
Falsely accuse others…
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over …

Get it?
Yawn

 

[Jack]

Even an idiot would know, Christ does not dwell in Sin… And Christ Dwells IN converted men.



So?
How many times are you going to post the Same irrelevant Scripture to me?

Never ONCE Have I said such an ignorant thing…

Why don’t you stop making False accusations?
It really is disturbing the lengths you go to..
Falsely accuse others…
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over …

Get it?
Yawn

Unconfessed sin / unforgiven sin

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins

 

[ProDeo]

Oh that's right, you said you CANNOT sin. John disagreed!

1 John 1:8-10
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

Do you confess your sins?

You are right Jack.

1Joh 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Joh 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Joh 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness is about the sins we don't even realize, even those are forgiven when we confess our sins. Amazing Grace.

And essential.

 

[Taken]

Unconfessed sin / unforgiven sin

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins

Good grief…Confessed Sin… IS forgiven Sin…
The Converted have The Holy Spirit IN them…

Really you think men with the Holy Spirit IN them can Continue to Sin?

Ya think the Holy Spirit dwells IN A man who IS Committing Sin?

Sheesh… learn the Truth.

 

[PinSeeker]

Just pulling 'Christians' out of the fire. Why does that upset you?

<eye roll> Okay Jack. <chuckle> I mean maybe that really is your intent, but you’re doing it very… poorly… You do know what grace is, yeah? Yes, so, you can do most anything with grace, even pulling folks from the fire. Verse 22 there says it… do it with compassion. Now, the definitions of compassion and grace are not the same, but they are very closely related… one can’t have compassion without grace. <smile> And love.

Grace and peace to you.http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Jude+1:22-23

 

[Jack]

Good grief…Confessed Sin… IS forgiven Sin…
The Converted have The Holy Spirit IN them…

Really you think men with the Holy Spirit IN them can Continue to Sin?

Ya think the Holy Spirit dwells IN A man who IS Committing Sin?

Sheesh… learn the Truth.

So how long since YOU sinned?

 

[Jack]

<eye roll> Okay Jack. <chuckle> I mean maybe that really is your intent, but you’re doing it very… poorly… You do know what grace is, yeah? Yes, so, you can do most anything with grace, even pulling folks from the fire. Verse 22 there says it… do it with compassion. Now, the definitions of compassion and grace are not the same, but they are very closely related… one can’t have compassion without grace. <smile> And love.

Grace and peace to you.http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Jude+1:22-23

I use LOTS of Scripture. That's "compassion". Why would you want me to stop pulling them out of the fire?

 

[Scott Downey]

9 But he that lacketh these things is blind and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

Bible Gateway passage: 2 Peter 1 - 21st Century King James Version

Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, according as His divine power...

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Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:

2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, according as

3 His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue.

4 Thereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 And besides this, using all diligence, add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge,

6 and to knowledge temperance, and to temperance patience, and to patience godliness,

7 and to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness charity.

8 For if these things be in you and abound, they make you that ye shall be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 But he that lacketh these things is blind and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

10 Therefore brethren, give diligence all the more to make your calling and election sure, for if ye do these things ye shall never fall.

11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

12 Therefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them and are strengthened in the present truth.

13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance,

14 knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shown me.

15 Moreover I will endeavor that you may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.

 

[Taken]

So how long since YOU sinned?

Years ago.

 

[Jack]

Years ago.

You demanded an itemized list of Paul's sins. You go first!

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[Scott Downey]

We are PERFECTED in the New Covenant, our sins are nailed to the cross.

All our sins, they are taken away and no longer remembered unto judgment of hell.

This is a very great salvation, you are 'complete in Him', the circumcision God did on your heart (spirit), putt off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.

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Colossians 2
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him,

7 rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, following the tradition of men according to the rudiments of the world, and not in accordance with Christ.

9 For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

10 And ye are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power,

11 and in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.

12 Ye are buried with Him in baptism, wherein ye also are risen with Him through the faith wrought by the operation of God, who hath raised Him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

14 blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us. He took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross;

15 and having despoiled principalities and powers, He made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

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Hebrews 10
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.”

13 In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
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Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 10 - 21st Century King James Version

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come and not the very image of those things, can never, with those sacrifices which they offered continually year by year, make those who come unto it perfect. For then would not sacrifices have ceased to be offered? For worshipers once purged...

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For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come and not the very image of those things, can never, with those sacrifices which they offered continually year by year, make those who come unto it perfect.

2 For then would not sacrifices have ceased to be offered? For worshipers once purged should have had no more consciousness of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year,

4 for it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Therefore when He cometh into the world, He saith, “Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not have, but a body hast Thou prepared for Me.

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin Thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, ‘Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me) to do Thy will, O God.’”

8 Above when He said, “Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings, and offering for sin Thou wouldest not have, neither hadst pleasure therein” (which are offered in accordance with the law),

9 then said He, “Lo, I come to do Thy will, O God,” He taketh away the first, that He may establish the second.

10 By this will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

[Taken]

Nicodemus once asked Jesus, Πῶς δύναται ταῦτα γενέσθαι (John 3:9). Literally, "How can these things (being born from above) come to be?" Barclay in his commentary on John 3 notes that this is a much better question than most people give Nicodemus credit for.

What does one have to do to become "born of God's seed?"

If one does become "born of God's seed", why does John need to tell them not to sin?

John was an appointed teacher to Jews.
Many Jews were still following Mosaic Law.
According to mosaic Law… Commission of Sin… was Unbelief, AND violation of Mosaic Law.

Matt 10:
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

 

[Jack]

John was an appointed teacher to Jews.

So John 3:16 doesn't apply to you?

Many Jews were still following Mosaic Law.
According to mosaic Law… Commission of Sin… was Unbelief, AND violation of Mosaic Law.

Matt 10:
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

 

[Taken]

You demanded an itemized list of Paul's sins. You first![

1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

No.

How about you quote me saying what you accuse me of saying.

 

[Scott Downey]

"For worshipers once purged should have had no more consciousness of sins."

In essence this is our relationship with God in His new covenant with Christ and the blood of His dear Son, which has cleansed you from all your iniquities.

 

[Jack]

No.

How about you quote me saying what you accuse me of saying.

You don't remember you kept asking me what Paul's sins were? lol

Quoting YOU: "What sins Did…
Saul: Paul, John… confess?"

 

[Taken]

You are right Jack.

1Joh 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Except that… Jack has never Once quoted me SAYING that…

So how did you Determine Jack was RIGHT in accusing me of something I never said?

 

[Scott Downey]

5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

There will be no sin, and no one sinning in His prescense in His heaven.
All the sinners will be burned in the fire.
There will only be the redeemed of the Lord who will live with Him in His heaven

Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 1 - 21st Century King James Version

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful;

2 but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on His law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither, and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so, but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous, but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

 

[Jack]

Except that… Jack has never Once quoted me SAYING that…

So how did you Determine Jack was RIGHT in accusing me of something I never said?

You said you CANNOT sin!