Who, can Not Sin and Why?
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You said anyone who commits a sin is not saved. That would include 'nearly' everyone here. Are we going to Hell?
Nothing "snarky tacky boyish" about it. It's one of the most important doctrines in the Bible! And you who "CANNOT sin" refuse to answer!
How stupid to Not know…
I am not…Paul
I am not..John
I am not…we
How stupid to Not know “what YOU SAY Is YOUR words…”
Stupid-
having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
I gave absolute Biblical proof. You gave ZERO! As usual, just your opinions. It's a good thing you "CANNOT sin"!
Really? Then why are you speaking for me?
Copy and paste ME speaking.
Your opinion.
The unsaved are going to hell.
I answer questions, not snarky, tacky, boyish commands.
For the stupid, who ask the same question twice. I’ll answer twice. For the Really stupid who ask the same question thrice, they can go back and read the same answers given them twice.
Ziggy
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Why are people obsessed with other peoples sins?
Do they believe when they come before the judgment seat that they will turn to the person next to them and say...
WHATABOUT??!!
Do you believe God is interested in the one next to them more than the one standing in front of him?
There is someone who stands with everyone at the judgment seat waiting to accuse them.
And it looks like his army of accusers is growing daily.
But it is God who is the judge. Not the accuser nor the army of snitches that God will listen to.
He will judge everyone according to His righteousness, not ours.
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You said anyone who sins is not saved! That would include the writers of your Bible!
There you go folks. Anyone here who commits a sin is going to Hell, according to Taken!
Anyone who cares to see your accusations can read your nearly 30,000 'sinless' posts.
The more “with them”, increases their own Confidence….majority!
Why are people so incredibly Stupid?
A toddler knows HOW to Ask a Question.
Grown Adults Speak Lies, then Lie Again saying that is what an other said, then wallows in THEIR Lies, demanding others to Defend their Lies.
No wonder Scripture teaches to come to the Lord “as a little child”… rather than an Adult who is consumed with their own Lies And spends their Efforts trying to include everyone else in their Deceit!
God is Just. His Way is Holy.
They who are Yoke with Him, ARE His.
They who Play the “But” Game…
Of saved BUT still commit sin…
Are consumed with soldiering for Satan,
Getting a majority to JOIN with Them…
THEY Teaching, Preaching, Advocating, That Gods Gift of Salvation…is a Hoax, not real, not permanent. That a person MUST repeatedly Ask for forgiveness for their ongoing sin.
Pretty sure that is what ancient Jews did For 4,000 years… and Catholics have taught for the last 2,000 years.
Yet JESUS taught… the Forgiven… to Pray to God, to Thank Him and Ask for Comfort and Understanding.
Jesus didn’t teach to ASK for what He has already give a man!
God bless you.
Taken
Your lie.
Your Lie.
Your lie.
Thou shalt not lie.
Rarely can you make a post void of lying.
Shameful.
If that were true…you could QUOTE me…
The whole forum participants can plainly see … YOU are the one speaking.
Your Lying, Gaslighting, Trespassing is in full view on this forum…
oh and BTW… the Lord is fully aware of your devious works.
Just a brief comment on 1 John 3:9, since that was offered as a proof text by... well, someone here... <smile> ...that saved folks don't sin anymore... Let's look at that passage in its entirety, rather than just verse 9...
John is very, very clear here, especially in verse 9, but also in verses 5, 8, and 10, in addition to verse 9, that he is talking about people who make a practice of sinning (rather than merely "anyone who sins"). These people are of the devil (verse 8) and not born of God (verse 9) and thus not a Christian.
Now, that should be plenty, but just to further clarify... <smile>
To make a practice of something is a voluntary act, so John is talking about those who intentionally sin. They do not even acknowledge sin as sin and are not repentant. They are still, as Paul puts it in Ephesians 2, living in the passions of the flesh, carrying out the desires of the flesh and the mind, and in so doing are still willingly following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience, and thus still dead in their sin and children of wrath.
So, again, in this passage, John is not talking about those who have been born again of the Spirit and are now of God.
And on top of all this, John is strongly insinuating that those who have been born again of the Spirit and are of God do not make a practice of sinning, so do not intentionally sin, but that they ~ we ~ do still sin, but we are repentant, which rightly drives us to confess ~ acknowledge ~ our sin to/before God and then receive His forgiveness, which we can be absolutely confident in because, "if we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9).
Which takes us back to 1 John 1 and 2, where the same John who wrote 1 John 3 <smile> says, "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us" (1 John 1:8-9), and "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).
Just one more thing... <smile> No one here is calling anyone a liar, per se, except in the sense that he or she may be... well, fooling/kidding themselves, if they think they don't sin or have no sin.
Well, maybe that wasn't so brief... <grin>
Grace and peace to all.
"Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother."
John is very, very clear here, especially in verse 9, but also in verses 5, 8, and 10, in addition to verse 9, that he is talking about people who make a practice of sinning (rather than merely "anyone who sins"). These people are of the devil (verse 8) and not born of God (verse 9) and thus not a Christian.
Now, that should be plenty, but just to further clarify... <smile>
To make a practice of something is a voluntary act, so John is talking about those who intentionally sin. They do not even acknowledge sin as sin and are not repentant. They are still, as Paul puts it in Ephesians 2, living in the passions of the flesh, carrying out the desires of the flesh and the mind, and in so doing are still willingly following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience, and thus still dead in their sin and children of wrath.
So, again, in this passage, John is not talking about those who have been born again of the Spirit and are now of God.
And on top of all this, John is strongly insinuating that those who have been born again of the Spirit and are of God do not make a practice of sinning, so do not intentionally sin, but that they ~ we ~ do still sin, but we are repentant, which rightly drives us to confess ~ acknowledge ~ our sin to/before God and then receive His forgiveness, which we can be absolutely confident in because, "if we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9).
Which takes us back to 1 John 1 and 2, where the same John who wrote 1 John 3 <smile> says, "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us" (1 John 1:8-9), and "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" (1 John 2:1).
Just one more thing... <smile> No one here is calling anyone a liar, per se, except in the sense that he or she may be... well, fooling/kidding themselves, if they think they don't sin or have no sin.
Well, maybe that wasn't so brief... <grin>
Grace and peace to all.
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There doesn't seem to be many interested in what you said. So if anyone shows interest I will gladly quote you!
And so, Paul, John and the writer of Hebrews clearly admit they can sin. But Taken can't.
Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
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