AI Among Us claiming to be Members

[ScottA]

And Im not saying that one can't be upset about what they see.

The only thing a person can at the end of the day is continue to seek for truth and to seek for God if they so desire.

I don't hold the answers. I don't believe other people do either. I believe it's important and very valuable for people to self-reflect.

Now when it comes up bringing up controversial topics, people will comment on that adnoism. It's a product of the flesh.

People fight and bicker. That's not the spirit at all is it? Couldn't be. That is the flesh.

We all do it. No one is guilty or free of a charge like that.

In another post I talked about how crimes are given by judges who execute the sentence. Will a person be accountable for themselves?

I know I take accountability for my own self and actions both be them good or bad. The only true good was that of Jesus, and those moments are probably not even really remembered at the end of the day. However, God will remember that is for sure. When a person allowed the spirit of Christ to flow through them, to show mercy, kindness, being non-judgement but maybe starting from where they are at, and things of that nature.

But I digress. People will be and act how they want to. However, you know we all have to be honest with ourselves at the end of the day because everyone has to sleep on their own and everyone dies on their own most of the time as it is, so therefore...



When a table is flipped over and a heart is revealed.... I mean that could be an innumerable amount of subjective tables that could be used...

Ya know what I am saying? What I hate is people who manipulate people using the bible and God as a sur name just to toy people around. Those are the people that bother me the most. All I know is I can share whatever I have on my mind and heart with no reason to have anything to hide anything. We all know ourselves, and we all know how we act and behave. Some people are mentally handicapped and things of that nature.

It's not the nature of behaving that saves a person anyway. It's the ability to choose faith over all these people and what they may have to say or have an opinion about.

This is why I don't go to church or care for it much anymore. People think Im not a christian cause I forsake the christian brotherhood or whatever, and they may have a concern about me or whatever. Those are things when people are really trying to control you, and they can even use the bible as a narration to control your life, and not allow you to actually live by the spirit - they trick you by being performative... rather than just simply having faith.

Try trick you by oh you dont agree with me so you are the one who is not a person who is a believer. These are the things that go on online and also in the minds and hearts of people in the world today.

Im not saying everyone is, but some are actively and seeking to devour people through religious means and really that right there shows the heart of dissison if anything.

If that is all the people want to do is fight and bicker, that is called "Dission" or "Spirit/Heart of Division" amongsts people for the reason of division.




So when it comes to people who use ai - like Co-pilot and you look up the bible and what not that is cool. It's a research tool anyway... its made to assist and help you - however even those things you gotta make sure to do yourself a favor and make sure you got your priorities in order right? God first, then whatever else next by the spirit of Christ within you, and you live your life in your flesh as you exist and eventually will die and cease to exist at some point or another...

When it comes to people controlling people - that's really a no from me.

Okay...you're venting. So you get a pass (from me--for what it's worth).

 

[Anchorite]

Okay...you're venting. So you get a pass (from me--for what it's worth).

If Jesus responded harshly to the money-changers defiling the temple, and turned over their tables, we may be in a situation where some righteous anger and disruptive action must be expressed. We must be very careful and prayerful about it. Our flesh can be prone to ungodly temper tantrums. Discernment is needed.

To be told we cannot do this because “you are not Jesus” is basically, in essence, an attempt to prevent us from modeling our lives on the Savior. The scolding may have good intentions, to keep us humble, but it comes too close to implying that we are not supposed to reverently study and imitate Christ.

Jesus was gentle and sweet most of the time, but He also confronted evil in a sometimes fierce manner, hating the sinful hypocrisy and the spiritual bullying He saw in Pharisees who tried to block His healing and teaching ministry.


Philippians 2:5

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.


I Corinthians 2:15

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.


I John 2:6

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


John 14:12

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

 

[MatthewG]

I need to stop you right there.

Whats wrong with saying that you are not the Lord Jesus Christ. You are not the one who died for me or my sins. Jesus did that on the cross. God rose him up again. He was the last and final prophet to ever exist. If you believe you are a prophet. I will have to ask you to carry on your way if you believe so... I do not believe prophets exist today, nor do I need one. Jesus was the one whom made the final statements concerning the end of that generation in the day for me in my perspective.

 

[Anchorite]

Whats wrong with saying that you are not the Lord Jesus Christ. You are not the one who died for me or my sins. Jesus did that on the cross. God rose him up again. He was the last and final prophet to ever exist. If you believe you are a prophet. I will have to ask you to carry on your way if you believe so... I do not believe prophets exist today, nor do I need one. Jesus was the one whom made the final statements concerning the end of that generation in the day for me in my perspective.

I think @ScottA was saying that sometimes, like Jesus, we may need to overturn some tables, literally or figuratively.

It is unbiblical to say “you are not Jesus” as a way to negate a believer from modeling their life on the example of Christ. We are not Jesus, but we represent Him, and we have the right and duty to imitate Him.

 

[ScottA]

Whats wrong with saying that you are not the Lord Jesus Christ. You are not the one who died for me or my sins. Jesus did that on the cross. God rose him up again. He was the last and final prophet to ever exist. If you believe you are a prophet. I will have to ask you to carry on your way if you believe so... I do not believe prophets exist today, nor do I need one. Jesus was the one whom made the final statements concerning the end of that generation in the day for me in my perspective.

Believe what you will Matthew, I gave you plenty of information and examples of what is wrong and what is not.

And what--shall I now call you out on your claim saying "He was the last and final prophet", when the scriptures say otherwise? You are a fine one to be making accusations! But no need, I have called you out already.

 

[MatthewG]

I think @ScottA was saying that sometimes, like Jesus, we may need to overturn some tables, literally or figuratively.

It is unbiblical to say “you are not Jesus” as a way to negate a believer from modeling their life on the example of Christ. We are not Jesus, but we represent Him, and we have the right and duty to imitate Him.

That doesn't make them Jesus though.

It's all the Spirit of Christ within them, that is building up their new spiritual being that has become alive in Jesus.

There are people out there in the world that believe that God talks to them in some special type of way - but not like other believers.

I don't believe that is true at all.

I believe the holy spirit/spirit of Christ (now today that helps us through life) are exactly as Paul wrote to the Galatians concerning the notions of the already known attributes concerning the "Flesh --- the heart (the mind/the soul of the person) and how and what the Spirit brings to a believer.

To me people who say they believe God talks to them or they are some type of oracle or anything like that, or that they believe they themselves are some type of prophet is not good in my opinion.


Now do people prophesy today? Idk I can't remember what the word really means unless I look it up. I dont believe people can say they are some type of agent or representive of God nessicarly. Are people a child of God through faith? Yes, can they grow and mature in said faith? Yes. Do they get special abilities? are there more levels? People can ask all kinds of questions and if they have ill intent even go on to fool people...



All I know is prophecy is said to cease at some point in the bible, and i dont believe anyone can really argue with me about that.

I believe the spirit of Christ is the same in all people when they are active in faith and abiding in Christ.. allowing the nurutre of heavenly attributes to come from them, but it is from Jesus, and not themselves.



I dont believe in people touching people and healing them either - i witness this stuff as a child and it was scary people i never wanted to be there ever again though i think i may seen one more type of church like it and then many different ones after that through out life.


I believe that God and Jesus have accomplished what they needed to and people who think they are still more to come - could be wrong so I just believe how I do....



So no one can really judge me for that. I dont mind sharing some of my thoughts honestly. I dont get to do it that often.

 

[MatthewG]

All the best to you, Scotta. I hope everything is truly going well for you. (Thank you for allowing me to share some information with you and all to read about.)

 

[Anchorite]

All I know is prophecy is said to cease at some point in the bible, and i dont believe anyone can really argue with me about that.

I believe the spirit of Christ is the same in all people when they are active in faith and abiding in Christ.. allowing the nurutre of heavenly attributes to come from them, but it is from Jesus, and not themselves.



I dont believe in people touching people and healing them either - i witness this stuff as a child and it was scary people i never wanted to be there ever again though i think i may seen one more type of church like it and then many different ones after that through out life.


I believe that God and Jesus have accomplished what they needed to and people who think they are still more to come - could be wrong so I just believe how I do....



So no one can really judge me for that. I dont mind sharing some of my thoughts honestly. I dont get to do it that often.

Prophecy ceases when that which is perfect is come, but Jesus is the only perfect one, and He has not returned yet. We do not yet know even as we are known.


I Corinthians 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.




Laying hands on sick people is biblical. Mature believers can heal the injured and suffering victims of disease, through the awesome power of God inside them, that being the Holy Spirit.

James 5

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

 

[MatthewG]

Prophecy ceases when that which is perfect is come, but Jesus is the only perfect one, and He has not returned yet. We do not yet know even as we are known.


I Corinthians 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.




Laying hands on sick people is biblical. Mature believers can heal the injured and suffering victims of disease, through the awesome power of God inside them, that being the Holy Spirit.

James 5

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Yeah I believe what was perfect came. I believe we are past all this now. Because I believe Jesus already came and rescued his bride.

I don't believe in this rhetorical thing people believe that Jesus has yet to do what he said he would do in order for all things to be restored and us to live on the new heaven and earth where all people can reach God through faith.


Idk what you all may be saying.... just because you share a bible verse.

I do not believe in healing sick people. People die, that is it.


Having faith in God to heal you and he doesnt only to die... seem kind of silly to me doesnt it you?

What a useless hope only to continue on here and not think about God or the afterlife and going onward to see your family and be in a place that is filled with love and that to me is awesome.


@Anchorite

 

[MatthewG]

The greatest healing I have always said is the healing of the heart. (mind/soul)

A renewed heart from a cold heart to a brand new heart of flesh. That is what God will give to those who seek him.

 

[ScottA]

That doesn't make them Jesus though.

Matthew--for crying out loud--you are being ridiculous!

Jesus ate bread. Are you going to accuse everyone who eats bread, or prays to the Father, or falls asleep on a boat in a storm, of thinking they are Jesus? But I say that rhetorically--it's not an invitation to go on venting. Enough is enough. Start another thread if you think that is all the big issue here!

 

[MatthewG]

Matthew--for crying out loud--you are being ridiculous!

Jesus ate bread. Are you going to accuse everyone who eats bread, or prays to the Father, or falls asleep on a boat in a storm, of thinking they are Jesus? But I say that rhetorically--it's not an invitation to go on venting. Enough is enough. Start another thread if you think that is all the big issue here!

Okay. I don't think you have ever claimed to be Jesus, sir. I never state anything about that so I apologize about anything you take care. I don't think I been venting but sharing my mind and thoughts on some subject that may have messed your thread up here perhaps, but thank you for making it to be this way instead I guess. I will leave you alone. I was hoping for more conversation but it's okay, truly.

 

[Anchorite]

Yeah I believe what was perfect came. I believe we are past all this now. Because I believe Jesus already came and rescued his bride.

I don't believe in this rhetorical thing people believe that Jesus has yet to do what he said he would do in order for all things to be restored and us to live on the new heaven and earth where all people can reach God through faith.


Idk what you all may be saying.... just because you share a bible verse.

I do not believe in healing sick people. People die, that is it.


Having faith in God to heal you and he doesnt only to die... seem kind of silly to me doesnt it you?

What a useless hope only to continue on here and not think about God or the afterlife and going onward to see your family and be in a place that is filled with love and that to me is awesome.


@Anchorite

If Christ already came and rescued His bride, why are we still here? Makes no sense. If the perfect has already come, you and I would know even as we are known. That certainly has not happened.

Lots of suffering people have been healed directly by God, by natural remedies, by medical treatments, or by believers ministering healing to them. This reality is documented abundantly in church history. While healing charlatans exist, genuine healing also exists and I have experienced miraculous healing myself more than once.

There is nothing silly about having faith in God, no matter what results you receive.

You have to deny a lot of scripture and medical evidence to claim healing never happens.

If you refuse to believe clear Bible verses and prefer to cling to your unbelief and negativity, there is nothing more to be said.

 

[MatthewG]

If Christ already came and rescued His bride, why are we still here? Makes no sense. If the perfect has already come, you and I would know even as we are known. That certainly has not happened.

Lots of suffering people have been healed directly by God, by natural remedies, by medical treatments, or by believers ministering healing to them. This reality is documented abundantly in church history. While healing charlatans exist, genuine healing also exists and I have experienced miraculous healing myself more than once.

There is nothing silly about having faith in God, no matter what results you receive.

You have to deny a lot of scripture and medical evidence to claim healing never happens.

If you refuse to believe clear Bible verses and prefer to cling to your unbelief and negativity, there is nothing more to be said.

Can I ask you what is wrong with believing that he came and rescued the bride he promised to come get those many years ago?

I don't understand why you comment on " cling to your unbelief and negativity."

If people want to believe that Jesus is still to come and rescue them today that is totally fine, but what makes you think that I need to believe that in order to be right with God?

Or are you saying I need to believe you in order to be right with God?

Because if you believe that Jesus is still coming back that is all fine and great.

I do not have to. And if that is were we stand biblically (because my perspective is from a biblical view.)

How do people set the standard of what is wrong or right to believe in when it comes to the bible?

Now if you can believe faith healers healing people, and people claiming they can even cure autism. I will say hey you know what I would like to see it to believe it, and they are unable to...

I guess people who are not able to heal are just a little less faith lacky than any other person that might be faith lacky and unable to heal a person with...

An incurable diease or something... and there are only claims of those things happening...

Are they true? Are they lies? I can't prove it. I know I am dying and I am okay with it... Sick children died in the bible... I mean... People die...

Sometimes people can go to the doctor as a preventative but not every surgery is probably practical unless its worthy of your time to get it done right?



There are people still today claiming Jesus is coming back, I just wish people be careful and think for themselves! Don't get doomsday trapped or anything. There is an escape that escape is Jesus...


Into "Newness" of life. Even with the suffering of ones own growth of abiding in Jesus and getting plucked back by the Father in order for one to grow int he first place.

 

[Anchorite]

I Thessalonians 4:17

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



Matthew 9

28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.

29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

 

[MatthewG]

Matthew 9

28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.

29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

Yeah but people aren't going around healing blind people... I mean it's not to try to break your faith, but did you know even God can shake peoples faith which is something founded in Hebrews. Idk what you might wanting to talk about from this verse or something. I just am a direct person. I know you do not know me or anything. I am just an growing old man Anc. I hope your family is doing good and well.

I have coworkers who also believe people can be healed but like I shared before and I dont know if you agree or not but the greatest healing is a changed heart...

A changed heart from a cold callous heart, to a warm heart.

A forgiving, merciful, patient, peaceful, longsuffering heart which is provided to people by the Spirt of Christ, to believers who believe on the Lord God in heaven, they are helped every day of their life they are faithful.

Sometimes we are faithless, maybe we lash out at someone or hurt someone by our words or actions perhaps even. That happens to a lot of people.

Thank God for the Lord Jesus. Im thankful that we can have differing views and still be human to one another... if one wants to be....

I mean no harm to anyone.

I just share.

I dont know where everyone is in their mind heart or what they are thinking or how they may react.

 

[Riven]

How did a thread about AI turn into this?

 

[amigo de christo]

If Jesus responded harshly to the money-changers defiling the temple, and turned over their tables, we may be in a situation where some righteous anger and disruptive action must be expressed. We must be very careful and prayerful about it. Our flesh can be prone to ungodly temper tantrums. Discernment is needed.

To be told we cannot do this because “you are not Jesus” is basically, in essence, an attempt to prevent us from modeling our lives on the Savior. The scolding may have good intentions, to keep us humble, but it comes too close to implying that we are not supposed to reverently study and imitate Christ.

Jesus was gentle and sweet most of the time, but He also confronted evil in a sometimes fierce manner, hating the sinful hypocrisy and the spiritual bullying He saw in Pharisees who tried to block His healing and teaching ministry.


Philippians 2:5

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.


I Corinthians 2:15

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.


I John 2:6

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


John 14:12

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

even paul knew this my friend .
What , shall i come to you WITH A ROD or ...............
No doubt at times what must be done must be done and it is g ood for the peoples .
And i shall bewail those who have sinned and not repented .
Oh its okay for the sinners to play the victim card and yell hater to those who correct .
But my my if one comes to remind and warn the peoples of sin and false g ospels , ITS JUDGE NOT , YOU AINT JESUS .
Have i ever mentioned we have so many problems within christendom .
And yes THEY WOULD RUN JESUS OUTTA of them churches and them apostles .
HECK they would have told JESUS , HEY YOU AINT JESUS DUDE , who you think you are GOD or something
trying to correct . Things have not been looking good within christendom my friend .
But all we can do is speak the truth , correct , and pray at least some hear and repent .

 

[amigo de christo]

How did a thread about AI turn into this?

Cheif i have a far better question . HOW on earth did christendom turn into what it has .
SOLD JESUS OUT for a harlots love and broad path . But yeah i guess you can ask that questoin you did as well .

 

[Armour of God]

I think many Christians are operating under artificial intelligence that they got from the church . - LOL

I see what your saying but I think it's not the same thing really. That's more of an indoctrination as opposed to AI robots operating on algorithms in a forum