Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

[shepherdsword]

Your reliability proof is in tatters. - LOL

"23,000+ Total Manuscripts" is a lie.
We don't have even one. All gone.

A simple google search proves it is true. Do some actual study before spewing venom all over the scriptures

And patristic quotations are NOT manuscripts.

Once again, you show your ignorance. While it is true the quotations from the ECFs are not actual manuscripts, it is a fact that we can reconstruct almost the entire new testament from their quotations. They match very well with the scriptures we have today. Once again validating that we have the true Word of God

All we have are copies, of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies,
of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies.

Yes, and all we have for the existence of Plato's writings are copies of copies as well. No one seems to doubt we have his original works.

Full of textual variants. Scribal errors, omissions and additions.

Mostly spelling issues, word order and grammatical difference. The FACT is....not one church doctrine has been affected by any of the differences. They all back the point that some will be saved and some will be fated to eternal damnation for rejecting Jesus.

The original manuscript autographs are gone.

And we have reliable copies that are the Word of God.

I suggest you (and anyone else mislead by your error) give this a nice long listen.

 

[St. SteVen]

A simple google search proves it is true. Do some actual study before spewing venom all over the scriptures

Once again, you show your ignorance. While it is true the quotations from the ECFs are not actual manuscripts, it is a fact that we can reconstruct almost the entire new testament from their quotations. They match very well with the scriptures we have today. Once again validating that we have the true Word of God


Yes, and all we have for the existence of Plato's writings are copies of copies as well. No one seems to doubt we have his original works.

Mostly spelling issues, word order and grammatical difference. The FACT is....not one church doctrine has been affected by any of the differences. They all back the point that some will be saved and some will be fated to eternal damnation for rejecting Jesus.

And we have reliable copies that are the Word of God.

I suggest you (and anyone else mislead by your error) give this a nice long listen.

No.
What you are calling manuscripts are manuscript copies, not the original autographs.

Almost the entire NT composed from the ECFs quotations? Compared with what?
Copies are from an original. What are quotations from? (memory)

Church doctrines weren't effected by textual variants, but doctrinal bias sure did.
(that's what happened to universalism)

"The Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge" by Schaff-Herzog, 1908, volume 12, page 96 German theologian- Philip Schaff, Editor: "In the first five or six centuries of Christianity there were six theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis) were Universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked. Other theological schools are mentioned as founded by Universalists, but their actual doctrine on this subject is not known."

Apokatastasis in the Bible​

Apokatastasis in the early church​

 

[shepherdsword]

No.
What you are calling manuscripts are manuscript copies, not the original autographs.

Every classical greek text we have is a copy and not the original. Aristotle's writings, Plato's writings, the Iliad and the Odyssey, Thucydides' history...they are all copies of copies. This isn't the "telephone game". They were copied by faithful scribes who did all they could to preserve the originals

Almost the entire NT composed from the ECFs quotations? Compared with what?
Copies are from an original. What are quotations from? (memory)

Their quotations can be compared to what we have today to prove we have the original new testament. The New Testament can be reconstructed from their writtings

Church doctrines weren't effected by textual variants, but doctrinal bias sure did.
(that's what happened to universalism)

Universalism is a direct contradiction of any translation. It is a doctrine of demons that stems from satan's original lie "you shall not surely die.
Did you even watch the video I posted or are you just going to keep regurgitating the same lies that have been debunked by it over and over?

 

[Ezra]

Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon​

The purpose of this topical thread is to discuss where the Bible came from.
I keep encountering forum members that seem to have no clue, or at least some misconceptions
about the origins, history, issues and substance of the scriptures.

I invite others to share their knowledge on the subject. The link below is the best thing I have read on the subject.
I plan to post a few quotes from it. Please offer your own. Thanks.

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101​

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus - Textual Criticism 101 - Berean Patriot

from any one else this would be a interesting topic.. but coming from you its a bit heretical

 

[amigo de christo]

Actually, the purpose of this thread is to undermine the scriptures, cast doubt on the word of God and replace the true gospel with some universal invention of satan. The "universalism" false gospel has every element of the original lie that satan told Eve "you shall not surely die"

My friend , oh how these words ring true indeed .

 

[amigo de christo]

Actually, the purpose of this thread is to undermine the scriptures, cast doubt on the word of God and replace the true gospel with some universal invention of satan. The "universalism" false gospel has every element of the original lie that satan told Eve "you shall not surely die"

Lets allow this to be seen again . Hey everyone read what this shepherdsword wrote .
For t hese words ring quite true indeed .

 

[St. SteVen]

Universalism is a direct contradiction of any translation. It is a doctrine of demons that stems from satan's original lie "you shall not surely die.
Did you even watch the video I posted or are you just going to keep regurgitating the same lies that have been debunked by it over and over?

That's a ridiculous and uninformed position to take.

The main Patristic supporters of the apokatastasis theory, such as Bardaisan, Clement, Origin,
Didymus, St. Anthony, St. Pamphilus Martyr, Methodius, St. Macrina, St. Gregory of Nyssa (and probably the
two other Cappadocians), St. Evagrius Ponticus, Diodore of Tarsus, Theodore of Mopsuestia, St. John of Jerusalem,
Rufinus, St. Jerome and St. Augustine (at least initially) … Cassian, St. Issac of Nineveh, St. John of Dalyatha,
Ps. Dionysius the Areopagite, probably St. Maximus the Confessor, up to John the Scot Eriugena,
and many others, grounded their Christian doctrine of apokatastasis first of all in the Bible.
— Ramelli, Christian Doctrine, 11.

 

[shepherdsword]

That's a ridiculous and uninformed position to take.

The main Patristic supporters of the apokatastasis theory, such as Bardaisan, Clement, Origin,
Didymus, St. Anthony, St. Pamphilus Martyr, Methodius, St. Macrina, St. Gregory of Nyssa (and probably the
two other Cappadocians), St. Evagrius Ponticus, Diodore of Tarsus, Theodore of Mopsuestia, St. John of Jerusalem,
Rufinus, St. Jerome and St. Augustine (at least initially) … Cassian, St. Issac of Nineveh, St. John of Dalyatha,
Ps. Dionysius the Areopagite, probably St. Maximus the Confessor, up to John the Scot Eriugena,
and many others, grounded their Christian doctrine of apokatastasis first of all in the Bible.
— Ramelli, Christian Doctrine, 11.

This is the word of God. Do not be deceived by a satanic false gospel or the lie "you shall not surely die" If one's name is not in the book of life they will be cast into the lake of fire. If you teach people that they will be saved no matter what you are responsible for their eternal soul. People need to be warned...not coddled with a lie from hell.

Rv 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

I've answered this thread, but checking Grok just to make sure, I will post this suggested summary (Grok giving my ideas if I did another video on the history of the Canon when I already did one on the Canonization of the New Testament.)

Intro (30-45 sec): "The Bible didn't drop from heaven as a single book. It's a collection of writings recognized by God's people over centuries as divinely inspired. Today we'll walk through the key milestones in how we got the 66-book Protestant canon (with notes on other traditions)."

Old Testament (2-3 min):

• Writing period: ~1400–400 BC. Moses and the Torah first, then prophets, then writings.
• By Jesus' time, the Hebrew scriptures (Tanakh: Law, Prophets, Writings) were widely accepted and quoted as authoritative. Jesus affirmed them (e.g., "the Law and the Prophets").
• Septuagint (Greek translation, ~250–150 BC) included extra books (deuterocanonicals) used by many early Christians and still in Catholic/Orthodox Bibles.
• Jewish affirmation around Jamnia (~90 AD) finalized the 39-book Hebrew canon for most Jews.

New Testament (3-4 min):

• Writing period: ~45–100 AD. Paul's letters earliest, then Gospels, Acts, general epistles, Revelation.
• Early church fathers (Polycarp, Ignatius, Clement ~100–150 AD) quoted them as scripture.
• Key recognition criteria: Apostolic origin, orthodoxy (matches Jesus/apostles' teaching), widespread church use, and the Holy Spirit's witness to believers.
• Early lists: Muratorian Fragment (~170 AD), Origen, Eusebius.
• Athanasius' Festal Letter (367 AD) gives the first complete 27-book NT list we recognize today.
• Councils like Hippo (393) and Carthage (397) affirmed what was already broadly received, especially against heresies (e.g., Marcion, Gnostics).

Conclusion (1-2 min): "The canon wasn't 'voted in' or invented by men— the church recognized books that already carried God's authority, like a shepherd recognizing his sheep's voice. Different traditions have slight variations (Catholic/Orthodox include more OT books), but the core message of Scripture stands. The Bible is God-breathed (2 Tim 3:16), preserved through His people.

Personally, if I was doing this, I would have to cover the oral tradition end of things that even preceded Moses going back to the book of Job.

 

[St. SteVen]

This is the word of God.

Are you claiming to be a Prophet?
Or playing the God-card to end the discussion?

Do not be deceived by a satanic false gospel or the lie "you shall not surely die"

Who is claiming that?

If one's name is not in the book of life they will be cast into the lake of fire.

Mark 9:49 NIV
Everyone will be salted with fire.

Malachi 3:2 NIV
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears?
For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.

If you teach people that they will be saved no matter what you are responsible for their eternal soul.

Not in those words.
Everyone is responsible for their deeds.

People need to be warned...not coddled with a lie from hell.

Hell as defined by the church is the most sadistic insult imaginable against God.

Rv 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The fire is for refining. Everyone will be tested by fire. Wood, hay, and stubble will burn. Not the person.

 

[St. SteVen]

Personally, if I was doing this, I would have to cover the oral tradition end of things that even preceded Moses going back to the book of Job.

And address the scrolls that Moses used from his father-in-law Jethro? (the priest of Midian)

 

[shepherdsword]

Are you claiming to be a Prophet?
Or playing the God-card to end the discussion?

I posted the scripture which is the word of God.

Who is claiming that?

You are...with your false gospel of universalism

Not in those words.
Everyone is responsible for their deeds.

If you spread a lie you are responsible for the consequences of the lie

Hell as defined by the church is the most sadistic insult imaginable against God.

Hell as defined by Jesus:

Lk 16:22-23
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

The fire is for refining. Everyone will be tested by fire. Wood, hay, and stubble will burn. Not the person.

The lake of fire mention in Rev is the second death....not some refining fire:

Rv 20:14-15
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

whosoever is a person

 

[St. SteVen]

You are...with your false gospel of universalism

If you spread a lie you are responsible for the consequences of the lie

Hell as defined by Jesus:

Lk 16:22-23
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

The lake of fire mention in Rev is the second death....not some refining fire:

Rv 20:14-15
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

whosoever is a person

You seem to lack knowledge about Universalism.
What lie do you claim I am spreading?

I don't see you speaking against Annihilationism. How come?
Isn't that just as much of a "lie" in your view?
A denial of the forever burning hell.

You used the Rich Man as an example of hell.
Do you claim that is the Lake of Fire?

How does a second death in the LOF resolve the sin problem?

--- PARODY ---

Imagined conversation between Jesus and a distraught mother in heaven. (parody)

Mother: Lord, I was remembering my child.
Jesus: Yes, I can see her now in torment.
Mother: When will it end?
Jesus: Hell is forever.
Mother: Is there no hope for my child?
Jesus: Sorry, no hope for those in hell.
Mother: Surely my child has been punished enough by now.
Jesus: No, unbelief is an eternal crime.
Mother: I would gladly trade places with my child.
Jesus: I couldn't do that to you.
Mother: Why can you do it to my child?
Jesus: They are my enemy.
Mother: Didn't you teach us to love our enemies?
Jesus: Hmm... you got me there.


--- PARODY ---

Person #1: ... and that's the gospel. Will you receive Jesus?
Person #2: Sure, but I have a question.
Person #1: No problem, what is it?
Person #2: I lost a baby. Will she be in heaven with me?
Person #1: Well... ahem (clears throat) Um... (cringe)
Person #2: Well what! ???

 

[zeland2236]

Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon​

The purpose of this topical thread is to discuss where the Bible came from.
I keep encountering forum members that seem to have no clue, or at least some misconceptions
about the origins, history, issues and substance of the scriptures.

I invite others to share their knowledge on the subject. The link below is the best thing I have read on the subject.
I plan to post a few quotes from it. Please offer your own. Thanks.

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101​

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus - Textual Criticism 101 - Berean Patriot

The Bible, as we have it today, where did it come from, and what did the

Emperor Diocletian have to do with it?​

Under the Emperor Diocletian, the last, and most intense persecution was carried out against the Church. In 303 AD, Diocletian issued an edict ordering all Christian church buildings to be destroyed, and all sacred writings were to be surrendered to authorities to be burned. Most Christians in possession of any sacred writings would sooner die than surrender them. There was one problem however. There were writings that were known to be authentic and inspired, and writings that were known to be not so. However, there were some writings whose authenticity people were not sure about. So, there arose the question: “was a Christian required to die for a questionable piece of scripture’?

This was the impetus for deciding which writings were inspired, and which ones were not. It took about another hundred years for the inspired writings to be assembled into what we now know as the Bible.

The actual work of assembling the Bible, and determining what books should be included in it, was began by The Council of Hippo in 393 AD, and finished by the Council of Carthage in 397 AD. These two African councils, under the guidance of St. Augustine, listed 46 books for the Old Testament, and 27 books for the New Testament. These findings were re-affirmed by the Council of Carthage in 419, sent to Rome and were approved by Pope Boniface I. From that date, all doubt, as to the inspired canon of scripture ceased. So it was the Catholic Church, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit that gave us the bible.

Both Catholic and Protestant historians confirm the above events. Below I have listed two such sources.

Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church, by the Right Rev. Henry G. Graham.

Amazon.com

Protestant source, “History of the Christian Church, Vol. lll – Nicene and post-Nicene Christianity A.D. 311-600, by Philip Schaff (1819 – 1893) Page 609 See attached file.

 

[dak]

And address the scrolls that Moses used from his father-in-law Jethro? (the priest of Midian)

Yithrow = "His Excellency"
Reuel/Raguel = "Friend of El" – 3rd of the holy Malakim who Watch, (Henok 20)
Yithrow Reuel/Raguel = "His Excellency, Friend of El"

The Torah was given through the instrumentality of Angels, (Acts 7:53, Gal 3:19, Heb 2:2).

Sorry, couldn't help it: after seeing your post just now, I had to throw that into the mix. I'm not trying to inset a wedge so as to start a whole new discussion or change the ongoing discussion here in your thread, just an innocent side note to what you said.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Torah was given through the instrumentality of Angels, (Acts 7:53, Gal 3:19, Heb 2:2).

That is actually interesting.
The Torah = the Books of the Law, not the laws themselves.

Most claim that the laws were given by angels.

Jesus explained what He meant in Matthew 5:17 after His resurrection.

Luke 24:44 NIV
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you:
Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Matthew 5:17 NIV
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;
I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

 

[shepherdsword]

You seem to lack knowledge about Universalism.
What lie do you claim I am spreading?

Universal reconciliation

I don't see you speaking against Annihilationism. How come?
Isn't that just as much of a "lie" in your view?
A denial of the forever burning hell.

I have spoken against it in several places.

You used the Rich Man as an example of hell.
Do you claim that is the Lake of Fire?

I was responding to YOUR statement about hell:

How does a second death in the LOF resolve the sin problem?

That should be obvious

--- PARODY ---

Imagined conversation between Jesus and a distraught mother in heaven. (parody)

Mother: Lord, I was remembering my child.
Jesus: Yes, I can see her now in torment.
Mother: When will it end?
Jesus: Hell is forever.
Mother: Is there no hope for my child?
Jesus: Sorry, no hope for those in hell.
Mother: Surely my child has been punished enough by now.
Jesus: No, unbelief is an eternal crime.
Mother: I would gladly trade places with my child.
Jesus: I couldn't do that to you.
Mother: Why can you do it to my child?
Jesus: They are my enemy.
Mother: Didn't you teach us to love our enemies?
Jesus: Hmm... you got me there.


--- PARODY ---

Person #1: ... and that's the gospel. Will you receive Jesus?
Person #2: Sure, but I have a question.
Person #1: No problem, what is it?
Person #2: I lost a baby. Will she be in heaven with me?
Person #1: Well... ahem (clears throat) Um... (cringe)
Person #2: Well what! ???

Is this all you have? Mocking parodies? You get your theology from Hazbin Hotel. You should be getting it from the bible.

(staff edited)

 

[St. SteVen]

Is this all you have? Mocking parodies? You get your theology from Hazbin Hotel. You should be getting it from the bible.

I think I have posted these scriptures before.


Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 NIV
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32, 36
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

1 Timothy 4:10 NIV
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 5:15-16
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man,
how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin:
The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

Romans 5:18-19 NIV
Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people,
so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners,
so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Colossians 1:19-20
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

1 Timothy 2:1-6
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

Romans 3:24 NIV
and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Romans 9:16 NIV
It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.

James 2:13 NIV
... Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Matthew 18:11 NKJV
For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.

Luke 19:10 NIV
For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

Ecclesiastes 12:14 NIV
For God will bring every deed into judgment,
including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.

1 John 4:18 NIV
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear,
because fear has to do with punishment.
The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

Mark 9:49 NIV
Everyone will be salted with fire.

Malachi 3:2 NIV
But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears?
For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.

 

[shepherdsword]

I think I have posted these scriptures before.


Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

This is talking about restoring the kingdom to Israel:

Ac 1:6-7
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 NIV
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

He gave himself for all people but only those that believe will benefit. This is what qualifies it:

Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

One again, He died for the whole world...but only those that believe will benefit

Romans 11:32, 36
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

This is a classic use of a synecdoche.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Every race and creed...not every single individual. Jesus said few find the path to life:

Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

once again:
Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Timothy 4:10 NIV
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

Here we see once again it is for those that believe

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Da 12:2
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Romans 5:15-16
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man,
how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin:
The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

"many" as in those that believe

Romans 5:18-19 NIV
Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people,
so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners,
so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Not every individual

Colossians 1:19-20
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

He will gather all to himself for judgement

1 Timothy 2:1-6
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

All have the opportunity but only believers benefit

Romans 3:24 NIV
and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

"all" in the context of believers

Romans 9:16 NIV
It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.

Ro 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

James 2:13 NIV
... Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Matthew 18:11 NKJV
For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.

Luke 19:10 NIV
For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

None of these even hint that all will be saved
I suggest you google "synecdoche" and see how it is used in context when it says "all"

 

[St. SteVen]

None of these even hint that all will be saved

What do you like best about a forever burning hell?