What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

[amigo de christo]

I quoted God's Words and how He tells us to live and love Him. No one is fulfilling the law of love by breaking the law of love, I know this sounds good in theory but in actuality the bible tells us what this is 1John2:4 . We can choose to accept His instruction or reject it for our own wisdom. This is not a new argument, its the one that's been repeating since the beginning of time. We will all need to choose who we serve which is shown through our actions, not words Rom6:16 James1:22 Mat7:21-23 Luke 6:46-48

The sheep do not refuse instruction by GOD by CHRIST .
but many sure do and they even come claoked in wool .
SO again let me ask you
HAVE YOU heard them phrases getting sold . IF SO ya better correct fast .
Bridge builders , community etc , alpha course , seeker freindly .
tearing down walls . finding common ground .
Trying to blend politics with chrisitanity .
Talks of love a lot but very little doctrine and what little doctrine they do use
they use to form THIS COLLECTIVE WE ARE ONE UNITY junk.
INTERFIATH INTERRELIGOUS DIALGOUE IS OF ANTI CHRIST . do you at least know that .
Ecumeincalsim is of the well favored whore . DO you at least know that .
And watch out cause many are and have been deconstructed too . again
a fat lie . This spider has many webs by how it reaches all peoples .
But in the center of its webs of strange diverse inclusive strands
LIES The king of all darkness , the lie of all anti christs and it will be the END OF THEM ALL .

 

[amigo de christo]

Paul was never referring to commandments of God, if we should or should not obey God's commandments- Paul taught keeping them is what matters 1Co7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

And now a word . Think not that i condmen you or any .
Even in the earliest days they had great discussion concerning these meats drinks and days , and circumision and etc .
NOW GO read what the apostels concluded .
But as far as t ouching the gentiles we conclude they oberseve no such thing , but that they keep themselves from fornictation
and etc .
THis too is why paul would write as he did concering meats drinks and days . to simply LET EACH ONE be fully persauded in his own
mind . Now sins must be corrected .
In fact did you know that the one can believes he can eat all things
ought not persaude the one of weaker faith to eat such things . LET ALL things b e done BY FAITH .
I have been asking you questions concerning a very deadly matter .
But you have not yet responded .
But i think i might know what the problem is . cause i see this pr oblem
in many denominations .
THEY FOCUS NON STOP on certain doctrines and yet those doctrines were created of men .
Now some of them might be good but most are not .
And even then its like their mission is to convert folks TO THEIR denomination rather than TO CHRIST .
Now i see this all the time .
Jws , mormons , two key false denominations , but i will use them as an example .
THEY go about non stop talking about something EXTRA that always points to THEM , THEIR DENOMINATION
NOT TO GOD , NOT TO CHRIST . their e vangliesing at best is to win converts TO THEIR CHURCHES .
NOT TO GOD . and now at the end
What do we see . A FALSE LOVE RELIGOIN that come to MERGE THEM TO BE AS ONE .
And it too will use certain truths but leads them all to a we are one peoples
who found common ground with , DARKNESS . Its like watching the days of nimrod .
THEY now build an ecumiencal intefaith tower they claim and believe REACHES T OGOD .
ONLY what they dont know is that strange and diverse stone gathering , diverse love molding
each stone to another , ITS ALL A LIE and based upon A LIE that has DENIED the dire need to beleive on JESUS .
AND GUESS what , BAYBLONES COMING DOWN ON JESUS DAY . THAT TOWER GONNA FALL ON JESUS DAY
And though hand j oined in hand with them , THE WICKED WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED on the DAY OF THE LORD .

 

[LawofLove]

And now a word . Think not that i condmen you or any .
Even in the earliest days they had great discussion concerning these meats drinks and days , and circumision and etc .
NOW GO read what the apostels concluded .
But as far as t ouching the gentiles we conclude they oberseve no such thing , but that they keep themselves from fornictation
and etc .
THis too is why paul would write as he did concering meats drinks and days . to simply LET EACH ONE be fully persauded in his own
mind . Now sins must be corrected .
In fact did you know that the one can believes he can eat all things
ought not persaude the one of weaker faith to eat such things . LET ALL things b e done BY FAITH .
I have been asking you questions concerning a very deadly matter .
But you have not yet responded .
But i think i might know what the problem is . cause i see this pr oblem
in many denominations .
THEY FOCUS NON STOP on certain doctrines and yet those doctrines were created of men .
Now some of them might be good but most are not .
And even then its like their mission is to convert folks TO THEIR denomination rather than TO CHRIST .
Now i see this all the time .
Jws , mormons , two key false denominations , but i will use them as an example .
THEY go about non stop talking about something EXTRA that always points to THEM , THEIR DENOMINATION
NOT TO GOD , NOT TO CHRIST . their e vangliesing at best is to win converts TO THEIR CHURCHES .
NOT TO GOD . and now at the end
What do we see . A FALSE LOVE RELIGOIN that come to MERGE THEM TO BE AS ONE .
And it too will use certain truths but leads them all to a we are one peoples
who found common ground with , DARKNESS . Its like watching the days of nimrod .
THEY now build an ecumiencal intefaith tower they claim and believe REACHES T OGOD .
ONLY what they dont know is that strange and diverse stone gathering , diverse love molding
each stone to another , ITS ALL A LIE and based upon A LIE that has DENIED the dire need to beleive on JESUS .
AND GUESS what , BAYBLONES COMING DOWN ON JESUS DAY . THAT TOWER GONNA FALL ON JESUS DAY
And though hand j oined in hand with them , THE WICKED WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED on the DAY OF THE LORD .

I'm sorry, its hard to reason when one uses their own words and not Scripture. You elude to Scripture but not actually quoting it which leaves out the true context. I do not think we are going to be able to reason together but wish you well. God bless!

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm sorry, its hard to reason when one uses their own words and not Scripture. You elude to Scripture but not actually quoting it which leaves out the true context. I do not think we are going to be able to reason together but wish you well. God bless!

Well can you at least answer what you think about such things .
Have you seen them . I bet some of them you have even heard in your own church .
Maybe not , but probably have .
SO what do you think concering this interfaith interreligous dialgoue . This finding common ground
with ALL religoins for peace . And have you SEEN this interfaith interereligious dialgoue
and HOW IT DENEID before all the dire need TO HAVE to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
Can we at least discuss this . Have you seen men at work in your own churches
that are Becoming v ery tied into POLITICAL things .
Have you .
Dont just run . lets answer some questions . you can also ask me questions concerning this if you like .

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm sorry, its hard to reason when one uses their own words and not Scripture. You elude to Scripture but not actually quoting it which leaves out the true context. I do not think we are going to be able to reason together but wish you well. God bless!

SO whose CONTEXT do you think i should follow .
Whose greek .
SDA , JW , MORMONS , Denomiantions . OH THEY ALL CLIAM CONTEXT and all cliam to know greek too .
But as EVEN YOU can see
their contexts , their greeks , their scholars DISAGREE with one anothers . AND WORSE with even the very TRUTH
of what was PLAINLY written .
SO whose scholars should i heed , THE RCC , or maybe the watchtower , oh i know maybe the adventist
or maybe the worst of them all , THE FALSE LOVE CAMP . cause tehy all holler context and greek too .
NO . i will not sit under any of them . GOD has the sheep my friend .
Any question i have i can ask him . HE might not give me all my answers quicky , . BUT HE SURE DO KEEP ME SAFE
and headed RIGHT after HIM and IN that BIBLE .

 

[LawofLove]

SO whose CONTEXT do you think i should follow .
Whose greek .
SDA , JW , MORMONS , Denomiantions . OH THEY ALL CLIAM CONTEXT and all cliam to know greek too .
But as EVEN YOU can see
their contexts , their greeks , their scholars DISAGREE with one anothers . AND WORSE with even the very TRUTH
of what was PLAINLY written .
SO whose scholars should i heed , THE RCC , or maybe the watchtower , oh i know maybe the adventist
or maybe the worst of them all , THE FALSE LOVE CAMP . cause tehy all holler context and greek too .
NO . i will not sit under any of them . GOD has the sheep my friend .
Any question i have i can ask him . HE might not give me all my answers quicky , . BUT HE SURE DO KEEP ME SAFE
and headed RIGHT after HIM and IN that BIBLE .

Just quote the Bible - the Bible gives the context.

 

[Lambano]

 

[amigo de christo]

Sorry lambando but the c hurch age has been doing just that for years . And that is why and how leaven took over .
Someone gotta sound the alarm . The harlot of all harlots has invaded and has sold
her cup of a harlots love under the g uise it is of GOD and is his love . So , set aside if you want too , but dont expect me
to just be quiet and hug everyone to the lie . The buck ends on my watch . i shall expose .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No Ronald all mankind not only Jews, the sabbath is part of the covenant ( the ten commandments). jesus told us clearly to keep it. @Jay Ross nailed it perfectly read his post no 7 of this thread, its not complicated to keep we dont need dishwashers or ovens with a "sabbath Mode"

Paul was speaking of the numerous different sabbath there were mote than 10 of them he was not speaking of the covenant, commandment no 4 sabbath. that one is perpetual for Jews and gentiles. I am certain of this.

Isa 56:6 Also the foreigners that join themselves to Jehovah, to minister unto him, and to love the name of Jehovah, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from profaning it, and holdeth fast my covenant;

Sorry but that is not New Testament teaching. The Sabbath was a sign for Israel alone!

Exodus 31:16-17

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16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

No where do we see the command for teh church to observe Saturday as Sabbath. church people are free to do so, but there is no command.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The sabbath day was blessed and made holy at creation. God confirmed this when He introduced manna, and reinforced it with the 4th commandment. Nowhere in scripture or in history are we told that the holiness has been removed by God. The day itself is holy still. If you desire to ignore one commandment among the 9, you better have some good sound explanation when you meet the Lord when He comes.

God blessed it, but it did not become a command (andf for Israel alone as Ex. 31 shows) until the giving of the law which was several thousand years after creation!

Of the ten commands, none are specifically carried over to the new. Paul also called the commands in stone (the 10) a ministry of death!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Its not "rest" as in being lazy.....God tells us in His written and spoken Word that He personally wrote. Exo31:18

Exo 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” — Exodus 20:8–11 (KJV)

It means resting from our work and labors so we can keep the Sabbath day holy by....

Isa 58:13““If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words” — Isaiah 58:13 (NKJV)

The purpose of the Sabbath is spending holy time with God in commune with Him on the day He asked, blessed and sanctified for holy use. No relationship can sustain without quality time. God gives us 6 days to do all our works and labors Exo20:9 and asked for us to keep one day holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD Exo20:10.

We should keep it holy with time by ourselves in commune with God and time as a community as God deemed it a "holy convocation" or holy assembly and gathering Lev 23:3 which we see in the life of Jesus Luke4:16 and the apostles Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 17:4 Acts 18:4 Acts 15:21 and will continue on for eternity according to the LORD Isa66:23

Happy Sabbath!

Why do you make void Gods Word by altering it to make a legalistic command that the bible does not give? Are you Jewish? Show where the Gentiles in the church have to keep Sabbath.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Amen Ronald, the Sabbath was merely a shadow of a future reality and which is found in Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17

Correct! as it is written in Hebrews we have ceased from our works and entered into permanent Sabbath rest! That does not mean we do not labor, but it does mean we do not labor to attain being righteous, but labor because we are righteous because of Jesus!

 

[LawofLove]

Why do you make void Gods Word by altering it to make a legalistic command that the bible does not give? Are you Jewish? Show where the Gentiles in the church have to keep Sabbath.

Sorry but that is not New Testament teaching. The Sabbath was a sign for Israel alone!

Exodus 31:16-17​

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

No where do we see the command for teh church to observe Saturday as Sabbath. church people are free to do so, but there is no command.

Right in this verse you quoted, God connected the Sabbath to Creation before Israel, before Jew, before Moses, just man and God. Jesus also connected it back to Creation - the Sabbath was made for man and the Greek word He used is mankind, the Hebrew word Adam. When both man and the Sabbath were made, man made first for the Sabbath, made was made in the image of God to follow Him Exo20:11, not do something different.

Even in the commandment itself God made it clear its for everyone.

““Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
Six days you shall labor and do all your work
but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” — Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV)

And again

“Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”” — Isaiah 56:2 (NKJV)

And again

““Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentile) Who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him, And to love the name of the LORD, to be His servants— Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant—” — Isaiah 56:6 (NKJV)

And again

“And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath” — Mark 2:27 (NKJV)

And again

“And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the LORD” — Isaiah 66:23 (NKJV)

This is who God's commandments are for:

“but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments” — Exodus 20:6 (NKJV)

“Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus” — Revelation 14:12 (ESV)

God could not be more clear on this matter. Sadly its the one who thought to change God's times and laws that most follows Dan7:25. We all have free will to hear His voice and obey Him through faith and love. God wants to bless everyone Isa56:2 not just Jews- God wants to sanctify everyone Eze20:12 not just Jews because He knows we can't do this ourselves Isa66:17- He in His own words said for those who love His name, be His servant and join themselves to Him given to everyone Isa56:6. This cannot be made more clear.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jesus giving rest and the Sabbath command are not enemies. Jesus gives rest to the soul from sin, burdens, fear, and separation from God. The Sabbath is a day God set apart. Scripture never says one cancels the other."

Jesus said in Matthew 11:28-29 (ASV):

"Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me... and ye shall find rest unto your souls."

Notice what He said: rest unto your souls. He did not say, "I abolish the Sabbath commandment." He was speaking about spiritual rest in Him.

Now compare that with what Jesus said about the commandments:

Matthew 5:17-19 (ASV):

"Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil... Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law..."

If someone says Christ's rest removed the Sabbath command, ask where Jesus ever taught that. He never did.

Jesus also said in Mark 2:27-28 (ASV):
"The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: so that the Son of man is lord even of the sabbath."

Notice He did not say, "The Sabbath is ending." He said He is Lord of it. You are cannot be lord over something that no longer matters, also notice that Jesus kept the Sabbath Himself: in Luke 4:16 (ASV): "And he came to Nazareth... and he entered, as his custom was, into the synagogue on the sabbath day..."

And what did Jesus correct? Not the Sabbath itself. He corrected the heavy human traditions added around it, in Mark 2:23-24, Jesus shows the religious leaders attacking His disciples over man-made rules.

A helpful example is food. Jesus is called the bread of life, but that does not mean we stop eating physical bread. Water is used as a picture of eternal life, but we still drink physical water. In the same way, Jesus gives spiritual rest, but that does not automatically remove a day God blessed and made holy.

And Isaiah speaks of both Israel and foreigners:

Isaiah 56:6-7 (ASV): "Also the foreigners that join themselves to Jehovah... every one that keepeth the sabbath from profaning it..."

If Jesus replaced the Sabbath, where did Jesus ever say: 'Do not keep the Sabbath anymore because I am now your Sabbath'?"

People often assume that conclusion, but the words are not found in Jesus' teachings. Christ gives the believer rest every day, while the Sabbath remains a holy day that God blessed and Jesus honored. Both ideas can stand together without conflict as it should. @Ronald Nolette

Now look at what Paul gave as a command to the church!

2 Corinthians 3:7-9

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7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Romans 14

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14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Galatians 4:9-11

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9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Remember, in the gospels, Jesus was talking to Jews! and the Jews, even in the church are required to keep Sabbath

Exodus 31:16-17

King James Version

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16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Now compare that with what Jesus said about the commandments:

Matthew 5:17-19 (ASV):

"Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil... Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law..."

Now if you finished the qoute from Scripture:

Matthew 5:17-19

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17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled the law at the cross!

You are so bent on keeping the twn, what about the other 603 that god gave to MOses on the mount? Moses got those others at the same time. and they are not called a ministry of death as Paul claaed the ttten.

 

[David in NJ]

Hi,
I really want to keep the Sabbath holy, but I'm not sure what ''resting'' really means?
I mean, if I have one day of rest from everything, does that mean:
I do not cook anything.
You stay home and don't go out and drive?
You don't drive to church on Sunday?
You don't do grocery shopping?
You don't talk on the phone with anyone?
Obviously, you don't clean your house on that day.

What does resting on a particular 7th day of the week (Sabbath) really look like?
Thank you for the clarity.

God does not want you under the OT law.

Christ is the Sabbath Rest that God commands us to be Saved and find REST.

You can certainly rest on Saturday/Sunday or any day of the week.

But DO NOT apply the OT sabbath rest to Christ = that is religion, which is bad.

Have you read the Gospel of John?
Have you read Acts?
Have you read Hebrews?

 

[LawofLove]

Now look at what Paul gave as a command to the church!

2 Corinthians 3:7-9​

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7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Romans 14​

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14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Galatians 4:9-11​

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9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Remember, in the gospels, Jesus was talking to Jews! and the Jews, even in the church are required to keep Sabbath

Exodus 31:16-17​

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King James Version​

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16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Using Paul to correct God is never a good idea, especially when Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8 Paul is a professed servant of God, not His corrector.

So instead of actually addressing the Words that directly proceeded out of the mouth of God Paul gets quoted out of context.

Here's an example...

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

The Ten Commandments is the ministry of death because the wages of sin is death Rom6:23 if not in Christ. But you missed the part where the Ten Commandments went from tablets of stone to tablets of the heart 2Cor3:3 God keeping His promise of not altering the words of His covenant Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19

The law is not the issue, Paul said the law is holy, just and good Rom7:12, the issue is our sinful flesh. Those who have the Spirit of God and His ministry are keeping God’s commandments through His Spirit John14:15-18 those who walk in the flesh do not subject themselves to the law of God nor indeed can they Rom8:7-8. Paul was not teaching people to be an enemy of God.



Regarding the context of Romans 14 where in Scripture can you quote where the word of God which is what Jesus called the commandment of God ever a doubtful disputation? God's own Testimony Exo31:18 a doubtful disputation? Verse please?


We have to remember about Paul's writings

“And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him
as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures” — 2 Peter 3:15–16 (ESV)

 

[LawofLove]

God does not want you under the OT law.

Christ is the Sabbath Rest that God commands us to be Saved and find REST.

You can certainly rest on Saturday/Sunday or any day of the week.

But DO NOT apply the OT sabbath rest to Christ = that is religion, which is bad.

Have you read the Gospel of John?
Have you read Acts?
Have you read Hebrews?

So I guess heaven according to you is bad? Where the Sabbath continues according to thus saith the LORD. Isa66:22-23 And what Jesus and the apostles did was bad and keeping something God made holy is bad and profaning it is good. God answered these types of teachings

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!” — Isaiah 5:20 (ESV)

God in His own words taught something different about the Sabbath

“Thus says the LORD: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed” Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath, not profaning it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.”” — Isaiah 56:1-2 (ESV)

“Then I confronted the nobles of Judah and said to them, “What is this evil thing that you are doing, profaning the Sabbath day?” — Nehemiah 13:17 (ESV)

What God deems as doing righteousness which is what He said about keeping the Sabbath Isa56:1-2 stays that way, what God deems as doing evil stays that way too

“Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”” — Revelation 22:11 (ESV)

Once God blesses something as He did with the Sabbath day Exo20:11 and the man who keeps it Isa56:2 man cannot reverse it. Num23:20 they can only sadly forfeit their own blessing.

Psa 37:22 For those blessed by Him shall inherit the earth, But those cursed by Him shall be cut off.

“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city” — Revelation 22:14 (NKJV)

 

[David in NJ]

So I guess heaven according to you is bad? Where the Sabbath continues according to thus saith the LORD. Isa66:22-23 And what Jesus and the apostles did was bad and keeping something God made holy is bad and profaning it is good. God answered these types of teachings



God in His own words taught something different about the Sabbath




What God deems as doing righteousness which is what He said about keeping the Sabbath Isa56:1-2 stays that way, what God deems as doing evil stays that way too



Once God blesses something as He did with the Sabbath day Exo20:11 and the man who keeps it Isa56:2 man cannot reverse it. Num23:20 they can only sadly forfeit their own blessing.

OT Prophets were under the Law and saturday sabbath keeping was REQUIRED and punishable by DEATH

And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 13“Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 14You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Whenever anyone attempts to make saturday sabbath as equal to Christ, you sin = for you are attempting to add the works of the law to the Righteousness that is in Christ and Christ alone.

At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

DO NOT remain under the darkness of religion

FYI - JESUS and the Apostles never commanded saturday sabbath keeping = dwell on this and on JESUS

 

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Sorry but that is not New Testament teaching. The Sabbath was a sign for Israel alone!

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16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

No where do we see the command for teh church to observe Saturday as Sabbath. church people are free to do so, but there is no command.

the Command ifor the saturday sabbath IS the 4th COMMANDMENT Jesus did not abolish it nor should we. The 4th commandment as all the other 9's make the ten commandments, the Covenant, Jesus told us to enter heaven to keep the commandments. say what you want, but the truth about it was spoken by God in person and God does not change. Jesus , the 12 and Paul kept it, to say its for Israel only is absolutely false! To say it is Old covenant is absolutely false! I have posted scripture proving this here on this thread already. I can prove all I write here but you cannot prove and will never prove the sabbath command is abolished or was changed to another day. @David in NJ sorry David you're wrong on this one and cant prove it either.