Many Say ‘Just Believe’… But What Did Jesus Actually Teach?

[faithhopecharity]

You have shown me no such thing. I have shown you that Spirit baptism (1 Corinthians 12:13) makes us members of Christ and His church (body). Matthew 3:11 - As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Two separate baptisms, yet there is only one baptism that makes us members of the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

1 pet 3:20-21


20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

You are the master of confusing 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture. What I shared with you in post #199 was spot on but sadly, you just don't have ears to hear. Again, God accepts those who fear Him and work righteousness from a right principle, and to a right end, yet their fear of Him and working righteousness are not the origin of their acceptance; (Titus 3:5) but are to be considered as 'descriptive' of the persons, who are accepted by Him in Christ. (1 John 3:7-10) Those who have been justified by faith now enter sanctification and perseverance, along with fearing God and working righteousness/does what it right confirms authentic faith.

Faith that trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Ephesians 2:5-9) results in the believer being made alive together with Christ and the believer is created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10) which follow conversion as the fruit of salvation but not the root of it. Performing works of righteousness afterwards confirms authentic faith. Performing no works confirms a dead faith. (James 2:14-24)

In regard to Jude 1:21, keep yourselves in the love of God is supplemented with three participles of means in the original, which answers the question, "How does one keep himself in the love of God?" By building yourselves up in your most holy faith; by praying in the Holy Spirit; and by looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. The word "keep" means to attend to carefully, take care of, guard. It does not mean keep yourself saved, as you imply. Jude starts off in verse 1 with - Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ: In Psalm 37:28, we read - For the Lord loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.

In regard to Matthew 7:14, the narrow road that leads to life is faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Either we are trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. It does not get any narrower than that.

Christ alone is not biblical!

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Romans 4:24
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Not Christ alone must also believe on the Father who sent Christ!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

not Christ alone but Christ and His church the communion of saints relying on Christ His merits, grace, His life, His Spirit and His saints merits and prayers!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

You are the master of confusing 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture. What I shared with you in post #199 was spot on but sadly, you just don't have ears to hear. Again, God accepts those who fear Him and work righteousness from a right principle, and to a right end, yet their fear of Him and working righteousness are not the origin of their acceptance; (Titus 3:5) but are to be considered as 'descriptive' of the persons, who are accepted by Him in Christ. (1 John 3:7-10) Those who have been justified by faith now enter sanctification and perseverance, along with fearing God and working righteousness/does what it right confirms authentic faith.

Faith that trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Ephesians 2:5-9) results in the believer being made alive together with Christ and the believer is created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10) which follow conversion as the fruit of salvation but not the root of it. Performing works of righteousness afterwards confirms authentic faith. Performing no works confirms a dead faith. (James 2:14-24)

In regard to Jude 1:21, keep yourselves in the love of God is supplemented with three participles of means in the original, which answers the question, "How does one keep himself in the love of God?" By building yourselves up in your most holy faith; by praying in the Holy Spirit; and by looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. The word "keep" means to attend to carefully, take care of, guard. It does not mean keep yourself saved, as you imply. Jude starts off in verse 1 with - Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ: In Psalm 37:28, we read - For the Lord loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.

In regard to Matthew 7:14, the narrow road that leads to life is faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Either we are trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. It does not get any narrower than that.

charity and faith are different virtues

bondservant = works

journey on the narrow road = works

prayer = works

faith and charity never faith alone!

charity believes but faith does not love!

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

does not say 100 percent believe or 100 percent faith alone

faith is knowledge

trust involves surrender and thats works

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

You are the master of confusing 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture. What I shared with you in post #199 was spot on but sadly, you just don't have ears to hear. Again, God accepts those who fear Him and work righteousness from a right principle, and to a right end, yet their fear of Him and working righteousness are not the origin of their acceptance; (Titus 3:5) but are to be considered as 'descriptive' of the persons, who are accepted by Him in Christ. (1 John 3:7-10) Those who have been justified by faith now enter sanctification and perseverance, along with fearing God and working righteousness/does what it right confirms authentic faith.

Faith that trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Ephesians 2:5-9) results in the believer being made alive together with Christ and the believer is created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10) which follow conversion as the fruit of salvation but not the root of it. Performing works of righteousness afterwards confirms authentic faith. Performing no works confirms a dead faith. (James 2:14-24)

In regard to Jude 1:21, keep yourselves in the love of God is supplemented with three participles of means in the original, which answers the question, "How does one keep himself in the love of God?" By building yourselves up in your most holy faith; by praying in the Holy Spirit; and by looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. The word "keep" means to attend to carefully, take care of, guard. It does not mean keep yourself saved, as you imply. Jude starts off in verse 1 with - Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ: In Psalm 37:28, we read - For the Lord loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.

In regard to Matthew 7:14, the narrow road that leads to life is faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Either we are trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. It does not get any narrower than that.

works are rewarded by God!
heb 11:6

you said we have eternal life?

"and by looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life" (future)

we need to discuss the "life" verses of scripture
Jn 1:16
Jn 1:17
Jn 10:10
Jn 14:6
eph 2:1 & 2:5

when did He quicken us or bring us to life?

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Yes, whoever believes in Him receives remission of sins. (Acts 10:43) These Gentiles in Acts 10 believed, received the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved before water baptism. (Acts 10:47) How can you say you believe in Him when you also believe in your baptism? Whatever we are believing in for salvation, that is what we are trusting in for salvation. To trust in baptism for salvation is to say that Jesus is not enough, and more is required.

It logically follows that we get water baptized after we believe and are saved, but if someone is on their death bed and cannot get baptized before death, they are still saved because they BELIEVED (John 3:18; Acts 10:43; Romans 1:16) which is in harmony with Mark 16:16(b)..but he who does not believe will be condemned. *NOWHERE does the Bible say, "water baptized or condemned."

Certainly, water baptism is an important act of obedience. Anyone professing to believe in Jesus for salvation and yet refusing to be water baptized is of questionable sincerity. It's unthinkable that anyone who truly believes the gospel would refuse to be water baptized. I personally could not wait to get water baptized after my conversion and I cannot think of one Christian that I know who has refused to be water baptized after their conversion.

Baptism would have no meaning without Christ’s death, burial and resurrection, but Christ’s death, burial and resurrection would still have meaning, even if there were no baptism. In other words, Christ’s death is the substance and baptism is the sign/symbol/picture. Without the substance there would be no sign/symbol/picture.

Baptism put it in it's proper place, subsequent to salvation through faith in Christ as all works must be. Baptism is for believers, and believers are already saved the moment that they place their faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith, not by rites or religious works, or good works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9). Now this does not remove good works/acts of obedience (including water baptism) from the Christian life, it just puts them in their proper place, subsequent to regeneration and salvation.

it's Jesus who established all the sacraments for grace and salvation!

 

[amigo de christo]

what is the fire?

thks

They now dance upon the ashes of sodom and gomorrah
THEY now cry aloud , PRIDE IS GONNA REIGN .
what they dont beleive , or even know is
THE VERY ASHES of such cities that cleave to their f eet .
THE REASON ITS BEEN ASHES is DUE TO
what was the SIN of sodom again . PRIDE . and folks think
we aint in the last days . I SAY WE ARE .

 

[faithhopecharity]

Yes, whoever believes in Him receives remission of sins. (Acts 10:43) These Gentiles in Acts 10 believed, received the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved before water baptism. (Acts 10:47) How can you say you believe in Him when you also believe in your baptism? Whatever we are believing in for salvation, that is what we are trusting in for salvation. To trust in baptism for salvation is to say that Jesus is not enough, and more is required.

It logically follows that we get water baptized after we believe and are saved, but if someone is on their death bed and cannot get baptized before death, they are still saved because they BELIEVED (John 3:18; Acts 10:43; Romans 1:16) which is in harmony with Mark 16:16(b)..but he who does not believe will be condemned. *NOWHERE does the Bible say, "water baptized or condemned."

Certainly, water baptism is an important act of obedience. Anyone professing to believe in Jesus for salvation and yet refusing to be water baptized is of questionable sincerity. It's unthinkable that anyone who truly believes the gospel would refuse to be water baptized. I personally could not wait to get water baptized after my conversion and I cannot think of one Christian that I know who has refused to be water baptized after their conversion.

Baptism would have no meaning without Christ’s death, burial and resurrection, but Christ’s death, burial and resurrection would still have meaning, even if there were no baptism. In other words, Christ’s death is the substance and baptism is the sign/symbol/picture. Without the substance there would be no sign/symbol/picture.

Baptism put it in it's proper place, subsequent to salvation through faith in Christ as all works must be. Baptism is for believers, and believers are already saved the moment that they place their faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith, not by rites or religious works, or good works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9). Now this does not remove good works/acts of obedience (including water baptism) from the Christian life, it just puts them in their proper place, subsequent to regeneration and salvation.

so is standing of your roof remove sin!

acts 2:38 baptism for remission of sin

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Required for what? Water baptism "follows" salvation. (Acts 10:43-48)

The evidence is overwhelming that these Gentles believed, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues (which is a spiritual gift that is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism. Certain Jews may have wanted to forbid these Gentiles from being baptized because of their unacceptance of the Gentiles, but Peter clearly states that SURELY NO ONE CAN REFUSE. These Gentiles were clearly SAVED BEFORE WATER BAPTISM, and the Holy Spirit was proof of this. (Romans 8:9; 1 John 4:13)

Baptized AFTER they believed in Him, received remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism.

does not say they are saved!

 

[amigo de christo]

does not say they are saved!

yall still going at it over this . Go to and behold more and more churches , the nations and the land of israel .
You do realize what got SODOM turned into ash right .
IF not , THEY SINGING about it right now over there . PRIDE is gonna reign they say .
We got an ecumeincal whore infiltrating churches as well with her inclusive interfaith anti christ plan .
And you two gonna sit and quibble over this . HOW do you view this supporting of pride month .
Lets start with that question .

 

[faithhopecharity]

Required for what? Water baptism "follows" salvation. (Acts 10:43-48)

The evidence is overwhelming that these Gentles believed, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues (which is a spiritual gift that is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism. Certain Jews may have wanted to forbid these Gentiles from being baptized because of their unacceptance of the Gentiles, but Peter clearly states that SURELY NO ONE CAN REFUSE. These Gentiles were clearly SAVED BEFORE WATER BAPTISM, and the Holy Spirit was proof of this. (Romans 8:9; 1 John 4:13)

Baptized AFTER they believed in Him, received remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism.

no where does it say faith or faith alone washes away sin or causes the remission of sin, only grace, from the merits of Christ can do so!

thks

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think John showed us what Jesus said.

John 1: 12. But AS MANY AS HAVE RECIEVED HIM, to THEM he gave the right to become children, even TO THEM WHO BELIEVE (no works)

John 3, FOR God so loved the world he gave his only son that WHOEVER BELIEVES (trusts) in him will NEVER PERISH, and LIVE FOREVER (eternal life) for the son was not sent to judge, but that the world might be saved, he who BELIEVES is NOT CONDEMNED, he who does not believe is condemned already (no works)

John 4: 13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will NEVER THIRST. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into EVERLASTING LIFE” (no works)

John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he whoever HEARS MY WORD and BELIEVES IN HIM WHO SENT ME who sent Me HAS ETERNAL LIFE and SHALL NOT COME INTO JUDGMENT but HAS PASSED FROM DEATH TO LIFE (No works)

John 6: 35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. HE WHO COMES TO ME shall NEVER HUNGER and he who BELIEVES IN ME shall NEVER THIRST (NO WORKS)

John 6: 37: and THE ONE WHO COMES TO ME I WILL BY NO MEANS CAST OUT 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, thatof all He has given Me I SHAL LOSE NOTHING, but SHOULD RAISE IT UP ON THE LAST DAY. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that EVERYONE WHO SEES AND BELIEVES IN HIM MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE AND I WILL (NOT MIGHT) RAISE HIM ON THE LAST DAY (NO WORKS)

John 6: 47 Most assuredly, I say to you, HE WHO BELIEVES IN ME HAS EVERLASTING LIFE. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that THAT ONE MAY EAT OF IT AND NOT DIE 51 am the living bread which came down from heaven. IF ANYONE EATS THIS BREAD HE WILL LIVE FOREVER (NO WORKS)

John 6: 63 It is the SPIRIT WHO GIVES LIFE ; the flesh profits nothing. THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK to you ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE (SIGNIFYING THE BREAD FROM HEAVEN, THE FLESH AND BOOD ARE THE WORDS JESUS SPOKE. NOT THE PHYSICAL FOOD OR WORKS,)


Recieve in faith the gift he came to offer. and you will be saved.. forever.

 

[faithhopecharity]

One baptism does not mean that only one baptism has ever existed. In Matthew 3:11, we see a clear distinction between water baptism and Spirit baptism. We also see fire. Elsewhere, in Luke 12:50, Jesus said, "But I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am distressed until it should be accomplished!" Of course Jesus was not distressed about water baptism, but being "immersed" into suffering, namely His sacrificial death on the cross.

Again, there is only one baptism that saves and places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - ..one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37-39 for the word drink(s) and see the connection with the Holy Spirit.

faith or faith alone cannot wash away sin!

grace alone the fruit of the blood sacrifice of Christ can was away sin and give a clean conscience!

what does scripture say?

(prophecy of the new covenant)

ez 36:1

Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord:

ez 36:25-27

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


infused supernatural gifts:

faith
hope
charity (fire)

sanctifying grace
life
the Spirit (all of the trinity dwells in our souls)

rom 5:5

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Philippians 1:29 is not talking about salvation through faith plus suffering for His sake, as if we could suffer enough in order to earn our salvation.

Your misinterpretation is in conflict with Ephesians 2:8,9 which says nothing about salvation based on suffering.

As a Christian we all suffer in varying degrees for his sake. This is descriptive rather than prescriptive.

In regard to 2 Timothy 2:12, we see a contrast with, "if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him. If we endure, we shall also reign with Him -- AND -- If we deny Him, He also will deny us. If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

"By contrast, the latter "deny Him and faithless" points to the opposite of died with Him, endure and reign with Him. Jesus Himself warned of the danger of denying Him in Matthew 10:33 - "But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.." To "deny him" here does not point merely to a temporary weakness of faith, as in the case of Peter who denied Jesus three times during a moment of weakness (Luke 22:54-62), but is referring to life in it's entirety. The inevitable result is that "He will also deny us."

The warning is repeated in the final sentence, "if we are faithless, he abides faithful." To be "faithless" is in the present tense and denotes this as the habitual attitude, not a temporary lapse of faith. But in contrast to human faithlessness, "He remains faithful," faithful to His word and righteous character and His warning that unbelievers will be rejected.

we abide in Christ faithfull
Jn 15:1-6

endure to the end to be saved
mt 10:22

enduring all things implies love and suffering

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

what promises? eternal salvation!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Philippians 1:29 is not talking about salvation through faith plus suffering for His sake, as if we could suffer enough in order to earn our salvation.

Your misinterpretation is in conflict with Ephesians 2:8,9 which says nothing about salvation based on suffering.

As a Christian we all suffer in varying degrees for his sake. This is descriptive rather than prescriptive.

In regard to 2 Timothy 2:12, we see a contrast with, "if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him. If we endure, we shall also reign with Him -- AND -- If we deny Him, He also will deny us. If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

"By contrast, the latter "deny Him and faithless" points to the opposite of died with Him, endure and reign with Him. Jesus Himself warned of the danger of denying Him in Matthew 10:33 - "But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.." To "deny him" here does not point merely to a temporary weakness of faith, as in the case of Peter who denied Jesus three times during a moment of weakness (Luke 22:54-62), but is referring to life in it's entirety. The inevitable result is that "He will also deny us."

The warning is repeated in the final sentence, "if we are faithless, he abides faithful." To be "faithless" is in the present tense and denotes this as the habitual attitude, not a temporary lapse of faith. But in contrast to human faithlessness, "He remains faithful," faithful to His word and righteous character and His warning that unbelievers will be rejected.

phil 1: 2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

it is about salvation

btw why always more grace, I thought we were already saved and have no need for more grace?

phil 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

phil 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

Paul certainly does not accept faith alone salvation!!!

phil 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

how is gain is by faith alone?

martyrs are not saved by faith alone but dying for Christ!

Luke 9:24
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose hislife for my sake, the same shall save it. (martyrs not saved by faith alone)

phil 1:28-29

28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
certainly about salvation

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

I already thoroughly covered Mark 16:16 with you in posts #153 and #201. Now in regard to Acts 8:37, And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. In John 20:31, we read - but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Now what happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics. Water baptism follows believing and salvation.

philip said don't bother it's meaningless!

baptism saves us!

thks

 

[mailmandan]

philip said don't bother it's meaningless!

baptism saves us!

thks

 

[David Lamb]

philip said don't bother it's meaningless!

baptism saves us!

thks

The Philippian jailer was NOT told, "Be baptized and you will be saved," but "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" (see Acts 16:31). Philip told the Ethiopian that if he believed with all his heart, he could be baptized. Then we read:

(Act 8:37) And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
(Act 8:38) So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.

Like the Ethiopian, I was saved, and then I was baptized. Jesus saves us, not baptism.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Philippian jailer was NOT told, "Be baptized and you will be saved," but "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" (see Acts 16:31). Philip told the Ethiopian that if he believed with all his heart, he could be baptized. Then we read:

(Act 8:37) And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
(Act 8:38) So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.

Like the Ethiopian, I was saved, and then I was baptized. Jesus saves us, not baptism.

Modern day circumcision is water baptism.. Satan is so great at decieving people and they fall for it every time

 

[David Lamb]

Modern day circumcision is water baptism.. Satan is so great at decieving people and they fall for it every time

Of course modern day circumcision is not baptism. All the Jewish boys who are circumcised, all the other boys who may be circumcised for health reasons, are not being baptized when they are circumcised.

I have heard the idea that baptism is the equivalent of Old Testament circumcision, but it isn't. Only boys were circumcised. It's not only boys and men who are baptized. And the circumcision that is required of the Christian is what the bible calls "circumcision of the heart":

(Rom 2:28) For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
(Rom 2:29) but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.