THAT DAY AND HOUR NO ONE KNOWS.

[ScottA]

No. Two becoming one flesh constitutes marriage. It is the act of intercourse that marries acouple. The church is espoused to Jesus as of now. OUr marriage to him as the church takes place in heaven.

Your lack of understanding is showing.

The seed of man and the marriage of a man and a woman, are but images of what is true regarding God and mankind, rather than men and women--"This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church."

It is rather the eating of the flesh and drinking of the blood that joins one to become One flesh with Christ--"Take, eat; this is My body"..."which is given for you." Making the Church His body. This is the testimony, the meaning, and the act of "Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God." Which yes, takes place in heaven "within you", the fulfillment of "Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven."

 

[ScottA]

2. You misunderstand the Scriptures of Paul. For the Holy Spirit is both an arrobahn, seal and inhabitor of believers as I and He believes. Just because a work is sealing does not mean He does not inhabit. That is just wrong thinking. You do not know what the word seal means here. It is not an act or certificate of marriage the church is still espoused bt not married to Jesus ye.

Now I am not sure you even understand the birds and the bees. How did you end up with that family, and still you do not understand?

One example is enough. Really--forgive me--I'm trying not to be cruel. But here in #2 you contradict yourself. (Kids, cover your ears!) After saying intercourse makes two one flesh, here above you deny it when Christ comes inside the Bride.

Maybe you are just not getting the word pictures--the "image" of God in man.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Your lack of understanding is showing.

The seed of man and the marriage of a man and a woman, are but images of what is true regarding God and mankind, rather than men and women--"This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church."

It is rather the eating of the flesh and drinking of the blood that joins one to become One flesh with Christ--"Take, eat; this is My body"..."which is given for you." Making the Church His body. This is the testimony, the meaning, and the act of "Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God." Which yes, takes place in heaven "within you", the fulfillment of "Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven."

No the man and woman are both an image showing the intimacy of Jesus and His espoused as well as the real love between man and woman.

And no partaking the Lords supper does not make us one with Jesus. Being born again does. It is the Spirit that makes us one with god. But with all that said, Gods Word still says we are but espoused to Jesus and not yet married.

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Revelation 19:7
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

God says we are still espoused. The Corinthians participated in the Lords Supper and the Apostle Paul did not call them a bride already married.

JOhn under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit shows the marriage arrving after ALL the church is in heaven. there are still people who are to be part of the church who are not yet saved.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Now I am not sure you even understand the birds and the bees. How did you end up with that family, and still you do not understand?

One example is enough. Really--forgive me--I'm trying not to be cruel. But here in #2 you contradict yourself. (Kids, cover your ears!) After saying intercourse makes two one flesh, here above you deny it when Christ comes inside the Bride.

Maybe you are just not getting the word pictures--the "image" of God in man.

No I do not get your man made image. For when one gets saved, they do not get an image of God in them, they get God living inside them.

And the intimacy we have with Jesus is through the agency of the 3rd person of the triune god, the Holy Spirit. But nowhere other than in your fertile imagination does this biblically says we are wed to Jesus yet. AS with my last post, the bible clearly shows we are just engaged as His bride to be.

Once again do we trust the simple clear word of God, or the opining of you?

 

[ScottA]

No the man and woman are both an image showing the intimacy of Jesus and His espoused as well as the real love between man and woman.

And no partaking the Lords supper does not make us one with Jesus. Being born again does. It is the Spirit that makes us one with god. But with all that said, Gods Word still says we are but espoused to Jesus and not yet married.

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Revelation 19:7
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

God says we are still espoused. The Corinthians participated in the Lords Supper and the Apostle Paul did not call them a bride already married.

JOhn under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit shows the marriage arrving after ALL the church is in heaven. there are still people who are to be part of the church who are not yet saved.

Ron, your sense of timing is askew, the thinking of men, men of this world.

Your track record would suggest that you will just keep rejecting any other explanation...but...if you can take a breath, count to ten, and try to understand: God's timing is different. I'm trying to explain that so that instead of worldly, biblical truth, you might come to understand "all truth." God/Jesus--sorry--only eluded to how God's timing really, actually works when He told the thief on the cross he would be with him in Paradise "today." Today. That very day. Meaning, he "was crucified with Christ" (like Paul--sorry--only eluded to), was then raised up with Christ, "in Christ", "One"--like "one flesh" like "marriage" with Christ--all "today" into Paradise. Was the thief special?--No, he was a thief. Was he given special treatment?--No, he was a thief, a sinner. Was he perhaps typical of all who sin, believe in Jesus, and are saved ultimately to be One in marriage with Christ?--Yes, very much so. When?--"Today."

So...what...there is a Purgatory Department in Paradise, and the thief has been waiting around playing a harp and refilling his lamp with oil every couple days, while Jesus disappears into the many rooms of His Father's house and takes a trip back to earth...waiting until the rest of the wedding party arrives? Is everyone else who lives and dies before the last person lives and dies just waiting around with the thief in Paradise too? When did they go to be with Christ in Paradise...I mean if they all were sinners, believed in Jesus, and are saved too...would Jesus tell them all--"not today!" Or would it all be the same?

Hmmm...such matters of God, do you think "today" is like "the same yesterday, today, and forever?" Hmmm...maybe you should give that all some thought--or--just believe whatever you want!

Bless your heart.

 

[ScottA]

No I do not get your man made image. For when one gets saved, they do not get an image of God in them, they get God living inside them.

And the intimacy we have with Jesus is through the agency of the 3rd person of the triune god, the Holy Spirit. But nowhere other than in your fertile imagination does this biblically says we are wed to Jesus yet. AS with my last post, the bible clearly shows we are just engaged as His bride to be.

Once again do we trust the simple clear word of God, or the opining of you?

What you are trusting is your interpretation of the word of God.

Wherein the word of God, there are many word pictures, parables, and images, that explain many things. As it is said, A picture is worth a thousand words. But, again, you apparently are not fully understanding those images, and therefore rely solely on your own understanding of the scriptures--against the word from God not to lean in that direction.

So, let me ask you: Have you--did you--tell Jesus "I do?" And did He tell you, "I do?"