The Godless left has a visceral HATRED of Trump for one simple reason - his massive support of Israel

[NotTheRock]

Jacob is Israel.
Israel is not a physical location it is a People.


God's People. Chosen.
They was sent to be a light to the world. They failed.
But God didn't give up on them. He changed them.
They was carnal, and lived acording to carnal laws.
Those carnal laws were meant for the spirit but they didn't understand.
God sent Jesus to enlighten them, but they still wouldn't listen.
Now Israel is still Israel but their ears and eyes was opened and they converted to the Lord.
Israel is not just Jacob now it is Jacob and whoever God calls out of the world to be His people.

There is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ Jesus.

Israel is not the land.

Hugs

The group "Lesbians for Palestine" agree with you.

 

[Ziggy]

And America is not of one people, it is made up of many nations who come together under one banner.

There is no land called Peter or Paul, even though their names were changed.

Not all Americans come from Amerigo Vespucci.

The Land known as Israel today was portioned by the British, America and the UN through the Balfour Declaration in 1917, but was not Recognized and established as a State until 1948.

Israel is not a State, it is a People.

 

[NotTheRock]

Israel is not a State, it is a People.

God restored the nation of Israel in 1948 just as he promised he would do.

 

[quietthinker]

So you are against Israel just like the rest of the world. In other words, you are with the world against Israel. The fact that you're aligned with the world should compel you to re-examine your understanding.

The thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy....Jesus
I guess all who align themselves with stealing, killing and destroying are advertising their allegiance ....irrespective of the name they call themselves.

 

[Ziggy]

Gen 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Gen 17:2
And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
Gen 17:3
And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
Gen 17:4
As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
Gen 17:5
Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

Where is the State of Abraham?

There is a State of Israel, but where is the State of Abraham?

Isa 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

Abraham, my friend.

Jhn 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Act 13:26
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

Gal 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

So, Where is the Land or the State of Abraham?

Just curious.
Hugs

 

[ScottA]

So you are against Israel just like the rest of the world. In other words, you are with the world against Israel. The fact that you're aligned with the world should compel you to re-examine your understanding.

You are doing it again--bearing false witness! There are biblical consequences for that you know. And even here of CB--are you wanting me to report you??

What you don't understand about what I know of Israel and the current problem--I have told you. So stop lying about me!

Biblically, Jesus came for the house of Israel, and "It is finished." (If you veer off at that biblical reality and truth--you are not even believing Jesus.) End of discussion.

But if anyone is left wondering beyond that--the only thing beyond that is the bloodline of Israel--which has been disbursed among the nations, "scattered." Their Messiah came. Many rejected Him. Many believed and became Christians--which is to say, those of that time are saved. As for later generation to come, their Messiah already came and went. As such, all that remains for the descendants of Israel, is what was also given to the gentiles--that is all that is left. "Then comes the end."

As for Israel now--Israel is with Christ and will join us in the clouds (in the Spirit)--they "preceded" us (1 Thessalonians 4:15). And this--now--we are the "other sheep" not of that "fold"--that fold which "is finished"--but of that fold which Jesus "must also bring" (John 10:16).

Read the Bible!

 

[Ziggy]

You are doing it again--making false witness! There are biblical consequences for that you know. And even here of CB--are you wanting me to report you??

What you don't understand about what I know of Israel and the current problem--I have told you. So stop lying about me!

Biblically, Jesus came for the house of Israel, and "It is finished." (If you veer off at that biblical reality and truth--you are not even believing Jesus.) End of discussion.

But if anyone is left wondering beyond that--the only thing beyond that is the bloodline of Israel--which has been disbursed among the nations, "scattered." Their Messiah came. Many rejected Him. Many believed and became Christians--which is to say, those of that time are saved. As for later generation to come, their Messiah already came and went. As such, all that remains for the descendants of Israel, is what was also given to the gentiles--that is all that is left. "Then comes the end."

As for Israel now--Israel is with Christ and will join us in the clouds (in the Spirit)--they "preceded" us (1 Thessalonians 4:15). And this--now--we are the "other sheep" not of that "fold"--that fold which "is finished"--which Jesus "must also bring" (John 10:16).

Read the Bible!

We are Abraham's seed.
Of many nations (other sheep) brought together into One Body. That Body is Christ.

 

[ScottA]

We are Abraham's seed.
Of many nations (other sheep) brought together into One Body. That Body is Christ.

Yes, "for the Jew first and also for the Greek (gentile)" (Romans 1:16).

 

[NotTheRock]

You are doing it again--bearing false witness! There are biblical consequences for that you know. And even here of CB--are you wanting me to report you??

What you don't understand about what I know of Israel and the current problem--I have told you. So stop lying about me!

Biblically, Jesus came for the house of Israel, and "It is finished." (If you veer off at that biblical reality and truth--you are not even believing Jesus.) End of discussion.

But if anyone is left wondering beyond that--the only thing beyond that is the bloodline of Israel--which has been disbursed among the nations, "scattered." Their Messiah came. Many rejected Him. Many believed and became Christians--which is to say, those of that time are saved. As for later generation to come, their Messiah already came and went. As such, all that remains for the descendants of Israel, is what was also given to the gentiles--that is all that is left. "Then comes the end."

As for Israel now--Israel is with Christ and will join us in the clouds (in the Spirit)--they "preceded" us (1 Thessalonians 4:15). And this--now--we are the "other sheep" not of that "fold"--that fold which "is finished"--but of that fold which Jesus "must also bring" (John 10:16).

Read the Bible!

I'll put you back on ignore where you belong.

 

[NotTheRock]

Gen 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Gen 17:2
And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
Gen 17:3
And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
Gen 17:4
As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
Gen 17:5
Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

Where is the State of Abraham?

There is a State of Israel, but where is the State of Abraham?

Isa 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

Abraham, my friend.

Jhn 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Act 13:26
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

Gal 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

So, Where is the Land or the State of Abraham?

Just curious.
Hugs

When were Christians uprooted from their land?

 

[Jericho]

True Israel is not of this world, nor is the Promised Land.

"True" Israel is a modern, contrived term not found in Scripture. So, let's think about this logically. If God did not want the modern state of Israel to exist, would it? If it is a Satanic invention, why is the whole world against it? Is Satan not the god of this world (2Co 4:4)? If so, then why is Israel so hated and vilified? Why is the world so hyper-focused on this tiny strip of land the size of New Jersey? Why are Jews so hated and vilified? Why are they the most persecuted people in history? Why is the world so hyper-focused on such a tiny ethnic minority? The answers to these questions will tell us which side we should be on (hint: it's not the world).

There are many scriptures that talk of God regathering Israel in the latter days (see Eze 36:24, 37:21–22, Jer 23:3–8, 31:8–10, just to name a few.) If they are going to be regathered, they need a place to be regathered to. Isaiah 66:8 foresaw that necessity and posed a rhetorical question: can a nation be born in one day? The answer to that question was yes. So, it can't be argued that Israel hasn't been regathered (or is in the process) or that the state of Israel wasn't born in a single day. Those things have happened. That alone makes Israel prophetically important.

But why a state? Well, we shouldn't expect Israel to be regathered in this day and age and not become a nation-state. But it's important because it sets the stage for certain end-time events. One is the spiritual restoration of Israel. How is that accomplished? The enemies of Israel will come against her, and God will defend her, revealing Himself in the process. As Israel's enemies push them toward God, God will be pulling them toward Him. They will first come to acknowledge God again and then at the last acknowledge Jesus as their Messiah. In the end, all Israel will be saved (Rom 11:26). But here's the important point: there is a physical restoration BEFORE there is a spiritual restoration. The nation-state of Israel is a means to that end.

 

[Ziggy]

"True" Israel is a modern, contrived term not found in Scripture. So, let's think about this logically. If God did not want the modern state of Israel to exist, would it? If it is a Satanic invention, why is the whole world against it? Is Satan not the god of this world (2Co 4:4)? If so, then why is Israel so hated and vilified? Why is the world so hyper-focused on this tiny strip of land the size of New Jersey? Why are Jews so hated and vilified? Why are they the most persecuted people in history? Why is the world so hyper-focused on such a tiny ethnic minority? The answers to these questions will tell us which side we should be on (hint: it's not the world).

There are many scriptures that talk of God regathering Israel in the latter days (see Eze 36:24, 37:21–22, Jer 23:3–8, 31:8–10, just to name a few.) If they are going to be regathered, they need a place to be regathered to. Isaiah 66:8 foresaw that necessity and posed a rhetorical question: can a nation be born in one day? The answer to that question was yes. So, it can't be argued that Israel hasn't been regathered (or is in the process) or that the state of Israel wasn't born in a single day. Those things have happened. That alone makes Israel prophetically important.

But why a state? Well, we shouldn't expect Israel to be regathered in this day and age and not become a nation-state. But it's important because it sets the stage for certain end-time events. One is the spiritual restoration of Israel. How is that accomplished? The enemies of Israel will come against her, and God will defend her, revealing Himself in the process. As Israel's enemies push them toward God, God will be pulling them toward Him. They will first come to acknowledge God again and then at last acknowledge Jesus as their Messiah. In the end, all Israel will be saved (Rom 11:26). But here's the important point: there is a physical restoration BEFORE there is a spiritual restoration. The nation-state of Israel is a means to that end.

Because the State of Israel created by men, created that State as a PROXY for BRITAIN and AMERICA and the UN to be the CAUSE of WARS in the Middle EAST.
IT WAS BY DESIGN, and not of GOD.

HUGS

 

[Ziggy]

The Balfour Declaration was issued during World War I, when Britain was considering the post-war future of territories controlled by the Ottoman Empire, including Palestine, which had a small Jewish population at the time. The declaration was a letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, intended for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland Wikipedia+1. It reflected British strategic interests, including gaining support from Jewish communities worldwide, particularly in the United States, and securing influence in the Middle East to protect routes to British colonies such as India Encyclopedia Britannica.

The declaration was a milestone for the Zionist movement, raising hopes for the establishment of a Jewish homeland, though it fell short of full political sovereignty Encyclopedia Britannica. It also conflicted with other wartime agreements, such as the Sykes-Picot Agreement and the Hussein-McMahon correspondence, which had promised Arab leaders independence in parts of the Ottoman Empire .

The Balfour Declaration later became incorporated into the British Mandate for Palestine, influencing the geopolitical landscape of the Middle East and laying the groundwork for future conflict between Jewish and Arab communities The House of Commons Library. It remains a historically significant and controversial document, celebrated by some as a step toward Israeli statehood and criticized by others for its role in the displacement and disenfranchisement of Palestinian Arabs​

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Ziggy]

The reason why the UK and the US defend the State of Israel is not because of the people.
It's founded on the BANK of the ROTHSCHILD's.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I hate to say Omar was right, because I detest that woman,
But when she said it was because of the Benjamin's


That is about to change, so hold on to your seat.
We have to set this right.

Saving Israel for Last.

Means more than you know,

I love the Jewish People, God loves his people.
But this isn't that. And it never was.

Hugs

 

[NotTheRock]

If so, then why is Israel so hated and vilified? Why is the world so hyper-focused on this tiny strip of land the size of New Jersey? Why are Jews so hated and vilified? Why are they the most persecuted people in history? Why is the world so hyper-focused on such a tiny ethnic minority?

Scott himself has been blinded and deceived by his own enormous ego on this and other theological topics.

 

[Grailhunter]

It's arguable that no world leader in the history of the world has done more for Israel than Trump. The "evil one", who rules this world, is undoubtedly enraged that Trump has helped Israel to destroy its most dangerous enemies. The Godless people of this world, who are under the influence of "the evil one", follow the lead of their spiritual father by also hating Trump. That's it.

They hate him for several reasons, but simply they are against anything that is good. They hate because he is Christian and includes God in his administration and he believes in law and order and he is for secure borders and deporting illegal aliens and he work for secure elections and does not want our daughters striping and showering in front of guys in the locker rooms and he has shutdown abortion and living up to his promises and he does something about terrorist states and like you said, he supports Isreal.

 

[ScottA]

The answers to these questions will tell us which side we should be on (hint: it's not the world).

Okay...true, the answers to those questions will tell us what side we should be on--but it is not what you think or have been acting on.

"True" Israel is a modern, contrived term not found in Scripture. So, let's think about this logically. If God did not want the modern state of Israel to exist, would it?

Regarding why we should now consider whether is a "true" Israel or not--it is biblical that there definitely is. Which I answered already. But here again, it is because "there are "those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan" (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9)

If it is a Satanic invention, why is the whole world against it?

Because most of the whole world things as men think. That is, that the fulfillment of God's promises are worldly rather than godly and heavenly. Which means BOTH are acting against God.

Is Satan not the god of this world (2Co 4:4)? If so, then why is Israel so hated and vilified?

Again, because most people think everything from God is about the world, so they look for something worldly to blame.

Why is the world so hyper-focused on this tiny strip of land the size of New Jersey? Why are Jews so hated and vilified? Why are they the most persecuted people in history? Why is the world so hyper-focused on such a tiny ethnic minority?

Same answer. But it should be noted and understood, that even most of Christendom looks for God's heavenly promises to be fulfilled worldly. This too is biblical--"strong delusion", as it is written.

 

[PS95]

It's arguable that no world leader in the history of the world has done more for Israel than Trump. The "evil one", who rules this world, is undoubtedly enraged that Trump has helped Israel to destroy its most dangerous enemies. The Godless people of this world, who are under the influence of "the evil one", follow the lead of their spiritual father by also hating Trump. That's it.

I can't agree with this at all.
1.The left hated Trump with all of their being from the get-go back in 2016.

2. Every president supports Israel- even the left.

It's my observation that you enjoy making threads that will attract the bees so they can squabble and you disappear. Another word for that is troll.