Is the growing hatred of Jews and Israel, particularly by Christians, an omen of something extraordinary happening "soon"?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Status
Not open for further replies.

covenantee

Well-Known Member
Feb 22, 2022
7,803
3,463
113
75
Canada
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
It is a doctrine.
This is a rough definition from Google;

Replacement theology, also known as supersessionism, is a Christian doctrine claiming that the Church has replaced—or superseded—Israel as God’s chosen people. It asserts that God’s covenantal promises to the Jewish people have been transferred to the universal Christian Church due to Israel's rejection of Jesus.

But you already knew all that.
Replacement theology replaces the old covenant which leads to death (2 Corinthians 3:7); with the New Covenant which leads to life (2 Corinthians 3:6).

So you think that's bad?

2 Corinthians 3
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: NotTheRock

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
17,480
7,065
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Replacement theology replaces the old covenant which leads to death (2 Corinthians 3:7); with the New Covenant which leads to life (2 Corinthians 3:6).

So you think that's bad?
Let me give him a little help with this since he seems to be completely unaware of what scripture actually teaches.

Hebrews 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

It seems pretty clear to me that the inferior old covenant being replaced by the superior new covenant that was established by the blood of Christ is a good thing. But, maybe he doesn't think so? He might prefer the old covenant ways. It kind of seems like he does, actually.
 
  • Like
Reactions: covenantee

covenantee

Well-Known Member
Feb 22, 2022
7,803
3,463
113
75
Canada
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Let me give him a little help with this since he seems to be completely unaware of what scripture actually teaches.

Hebrews 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

It seems pretty clear to me that the inferior old covenant being replaced by the superior new covenant that was established by the blood of Christ is a good thing. But, maybe he doesn't think so? He might prefer the old covenant ways. It kind of seems like he does, actually.
Yeah. Sick and sad, bro.
 

rebuilder 454

Well-Known Member
Jul 15, 2023
5,194
1,342
113
70
robstown
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Replacement theology replaces the old covenant which leads to death (2 Corinthians 3:7); with the New Covenant which leads to life (2 Corinthians 3:6).

So you think that's bad?
The Jews can only be saved through the blood of Jesus.
The old covenant is a covenant.
The new covenant is a covenant.
The jews are covenant people.
Romans 9-11 depicts them as cut off, but brought back.
The 144k are ethnic Jews from the 12 tribes.
They are "Firstfruits JEWS".
( DIRECTLY POINTING TO THE JEWISH HARVEST OF REV 14.)
Paul called the Jews " my brethren".

Just way too much there to cast aside for a false concept.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NotTheRock

rebuilder 454

Well-Known Member
Jul 15, 2023
5,194
1,342
113
70
robstown
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The Holocaust. Did your Jew-hating pastor not teach you about it?
For the end times stage to be set, several components need to be in place. One of the components is antisemitism.
And the church is not immune to that.

Chilling and demonstrated in the Antichrist forerunner Hitler.

It is a spirit.
A " necessary " spirit.

Those same Christians hate brethren challenging them
 
  • Like
Reactions: NotTheRock

NotTheRock

Well-Known Member
Aug 10, 2024
1,256
673
113
50
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hamas,and other Muslims in Palestine, would behead each and every one of them.

But,they're paid to march and so they do. They don't know anything about Islam,they just know they like money.

It's due to spiritual blindness. The spiritually blind are opposed to the will of our Father, which includes the Jew-hating cancer that infects this forum.
 
  • Praying
Reactions: Gray_Joy

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
17,480
7,065
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
The Jews can only be saved through the blood of Jesus.
The old covenant is a covenant.
The new covenant is a covenant.
Do you agree with scripture that the new covenant is superior to the old, obsolete covenant and replaced it?

Hebrews 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

The jews are covenant people.
Romans 9-11 depicts them as cut off, but brought back.
Paul talked about leading some of those who were cut off in his day to salvation, so it's not talking about all Jews being cut off and then some day all being brought back, as dispensationalists falsely claim.

This is what Paul said in relation to those Jews who were hardened/blinded and cut off in his time...

Romans 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring! 13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: covenantee

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
17,480
7,065
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
It's due to spiritual blindness. The spiritually blind are opposed to the will of our Father, which includes the Jew-hating cancer that infects this forum.
More evil, false accusations from you. No one on this forum hates the Jews. But, you come across as hating all Christians who are not dispensationalists.
 

Gray_Joy

Well-Known Member
May 23, 2026
586
389
63
California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Female
It's due to spiritual blindness. The spiritually blind are opposed to the will of our Father, which includes the Jew-hating cancer that infects this forum.
That comment has no relevance to my comment.


Also,you might look to the cancer of hate that infects you.
You are rage. Not grace filled peace.

pryrw God help you.
 

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
17,480
7,065
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
That comment has no relevance to my comment.


Also,you might look to the cancer of hate that infects you.
You are rage. Not grace filled peace.

pryrw God help you.
Yes, it's very ironic that he is falsely accusing others of hating the Jews while he clearly hates anyone who disagrees with him about how we should look at modern day Israel (which is a separate issue about how we feel about individual Jews that we all want to see repent and come to salvation).
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
19,461
5,913
113
35
Alabama
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Modern Israel today is not Ancient Israel at all.

There are a lot of people who hate Israel:
There a lot of people who also hate America they call it the Great Satan.

However there are still many people who just want to live regular normal day to day lives which is not bent on hell raising…

There always extremes from the left to the right…

Best to be grounded on the Stone, yeah? Yeshua.

If you build on the saying of Jesus you are like a wise man not swayed by the winds of the world and all its dark stuff it comes with… of course there is beauty too…


I don’t hate anyone - I just might not like attitudes of some people - but the reality is this…

God loves all people and not all people from different sections of religions are all hell bent on doing some evil hateful stuff to others…

That’s the biggest problem in my opinion.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: NotTheRock

Davy

Well-Known Member
Feb 11, 2018
16,086
3,414
113
Southeastern U.S.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
I think so.

As a rabid follower of current events, politics, and social matters, I've never before seen this world as demonic and hateful of Jews/Israel as what I've seen over the past several years.

Most alarming are the huge numbers of Christians who are simply opposed to Jews/Israel or who are SEETHING with hatred for them. There are a LOT of Christians that hate the Jews. Some of them participate in this community.

Remember that Germany was mostly a Christian nation and that their hatred of Jews morphed into many Germans happily participating in the Holocaust.

A dark power has overcome the world. The result is tha innumerable Christians have been deceived into alignining themselves with this Satanic world in their opposition and persecution of Jews/Israel.

I believe it's possible that this world will, in the not-too-distant future declare war on Israel and that Jesus may then come and obliterate Israel and God's enemies and demonstrate, once and for all, that Jesus is indeed Israel's savior.

Thoughts?

Are you a member of the Anti-Defamation League whose one Jewish leader said something needs to be done about American Christians, because they are getting too much power and notice?

Don't be ignorant. God warned the children of Israel what He would do to them if they fell away from Him, and went to false worship. And He also warned about His enemies that He said He would allow to creep in among the children of Israel, to see if Israel would follow Him, or not. Thus there are TRUE JEWS, and then there are FALSE JEWS.

And it's the FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that given TRUE JUDAH a bad rep.

No TRUE Christian hates Jews. It's those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that also creep in among certain Christian factions that create all that strife, and those good Christian brethren among them are just as BLIND to this matter as YOU and your Jewish brethren are.

Heck, you... might even be one of those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that Jesus pointed to who persecute His Church. Why else would you come to a Christian forum and cry mistreatment of Jews by Christians?
 

Gray_Joy

Well-Known Member
May 23, 2026
586
389
63
California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Are you a member of the Anti-Defamation League whose one Jewish leader said something needs to be done about American Christians, because they are getting too much power and notice?

Don't be ignorant. God warned the children of Israel what He would do to them if they fell away from Him, and went to false worship. And He also warned about His enemies that He said He would allow to creep in among the children of Israel, to see if Israel would follow Him, or not. Thus there are TRUE JEWS, and then there are FALSE JEWS.

And it's the FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that given TRUE JUDAH a bad rep.

No TRUE Christian hates Jews. It's those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that also creep in among certain Christian factions that create all that strife, and those good Christian brethren among them are just as BLIND to this matter as YOU and your Jewish brethren are.

Heck, you... might even be one of those FALSE JEWS of the "synagogue of Satan" that Jesus pointed to who persecute His Church. Why else would you come to a Christian forum and cry mistreatment of Jews by Christians?
I mentioned to someone here that their name is a curiosity for one who identified as Christian on their profile page.

Not the Rock.

1Corinthians 10
And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
 

Spiritual Israelite

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
17,480
7,065
113
Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
I mentioned to someone here that their name is a curiosity for one who identified as Christian on their profile page.

Not the Rock.

1Corinthians 10
And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
It's interesting that he accuses everyone here who doesn't agree with his politics of hating the Jews even though several of us have told him that we love the Jews and want them all to be saved just as God does. I wonder if he has some kind of agenda and tries to hide his own hatred by falsely accusing others of hating Jews?
 

Gray_Joy

Well-Known Member
May 23, 2026
586
389
63
California
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Female
It's interesting that he accuses everyone here who doesn't agree with his politics of hating the Jews even though several of us have told him that we love the Jews and want them all to be saved just as God does. I wonder if he has some kind of agenda and tries to hide his own hatred by falsely accusing others of hating Jews?
God knows his heart.

We know his words.
pryrw

You can't treat people like garbage and worship God at the same time.
 

NotTheRock

Well-Known Member
Aug 10, 2024
1,256
673
113
50
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
It was "Christians" like the trash here that forced Jews into gas chambers. Stay downwind of me.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.