Christian Nationalism

[Triumph1300]

More Trump worshipping is being promoted.
The State Department is preparing a limited release of commemorative U.S. passports celebrating America’s 250th birthday that feature a picture of Donald Trump, who would be the first living president to be featured in the travel document.

All this "Trump promoting" starts to look a lot like what they did during 1930-40's Germany.

 

[Ziggy]

Are all Christian faiths the same?

I ran across a post on X this morning by Senator Mike Lee. He posted: As of two days ago, the Pentagon recognizes every Christian faith in America as Christian Except one ... There is a video he made concerning I believe it concerns Latter Day Saints or Mormons. I'm not sure which denomination...

www.christianityboard.com

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I think Senator Mike Lee was just making a "fuss" to have people do a little digging.
Just as example:
Here are the faiths that no longer appear to be specifically recognized under the new policy, according to an Independent analysis.

1. Messianic
2. Eckankar
3. Heathen
4. Native American
5. Church of the Spiral Tree
6. Troth
7. Rosicrucianism
8. Dian Wi (Dianic Wicca)
9. Sacred Well Congregation
10. Druid
11. Deism
12. Gard Wi (Gardnerian Wicca)
13. Shaman
14. Seax Wi (Seax Wicca)
15. Asatru
16. Pagan
17. Humanist
18. Eastern Religions, Other
19. Unitarian Universalist
20. Wicca
21. Magick And Spiritualist
22. Atheist

. Reactions from affected communities and legal advocates
Leaders of removed faith and worldview communities, as well as legal advocates, have expressed alarm and outrage, arguing the consolidation strips official recognition and could jeopardize ecclesiastical endorsement of chaplains who serve those traditions; the Military Religious Freedom Foundation called the move unconstitutional and signaled potential legal action, and other groups want the full memo published for clarity . Pagan and Wiccan outlets, along with civil‑liberties and humanist organizations, have publicly demanded transparency about criteria for removal and what accommodations will remain available

strips official recognition and could jeopardize ecclesiastical endorsement of chaplains who serve those traditions.

190k + amenities a year per "Chaplain", per Military member. Per Religious Faith Organizations.

Just saying..
Hugs

 

[Wrangler]

the first living president to be featured in the travel document.

Not sure what this has to do with Christian Nationalism. You seem to labor from a false narrative that travel documents must show the image of dead, White men. I’m glad my president was the first.

 

[Bombastic]

I’ll see if I can cobble together a few words in PM. LOL

Don't bother. I'll be ignoring you after this post. Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension.

 

[Gray_Joy]

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I think Senator Mike Lee was just making a "fuss" to have people do a little digging.
Just as example:
Here are the faiths that no longer appear to be specifically recognized under the new policy, according to an Independent analysis.

1. Messianic
2. Eckankar
3. Heathen
4. Native American
5. Church of the Spiral Tree
6. Troth
7. Rosicrucianism
8. Dian Wi (Dianic Wicca)
9. Sacred Well Congregation
10. Druid
11. Deism
12. Gard Wi (Gardnerian Wicca)
13. Shaman
14. Seax Wi (Seax Wicca)
15. Asatru
16. Pagan
17. Humanist
18. Eastern Religions, Other
19. Unitarian Universalist
20. Wicca
21. Magick And Spiritualist
22. Atheist

. Reactions from affected communities and legal advocates
Leaders of removed faith and worldview communities, as well as legal advocates, have expressed alarm and outrage, arguing the consolidation strips official recognition and could jeopardize ecclesiastical endorsement of chaplains who serve those traditions; the Military Religious Freedom Foundation called the move unconstitutional and signaled potential legal action, and other groups want the full memo published for clarity . Pagan and Wiccan outlets, along with civil‑liberties and humanist organizations, have publicly demanded transparency about criteria for removal and what accommodations will remain available

strips official recognition and could jeopardize ecclesiastical endorsement of chaplains who serve those traditions.

190k + amenities a year per "Chaplain", per Military member. Per Religious Faith Organizations.

Just saying..
Hugs

I would hope religious advocates don't allow those faith practices listed to be stripped of official recognition.

What does that term,official recognition,imply anyway? An exemption from the Civil Right protection of our First Amendment?

 

[Justified]

The Hebrews,Israel,weren't believers?

Not Christians, no. “Believers” is used in the Bible only in reference to followers of Christ.

 

[Justified]

Okay. So you know how to post YouTube videos. Is there a reason?

 

[amigo de christo]

Another knee jerk response without commenting on the subject.
As usual, you got nothing else, besides calling me a communist, lol.

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Enjoy your evening. Go and watch some soccer!
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A real Christian movement would reject cruelty, division, and the worship of political leaders. It would care for the sick, the poor, and the marginalized. It would prioritize peace over conflict, justice over control, and grace over vengeance.

But MAGA Christianity does none of these things.
It does not exist to serve — it exists to dominate.

read your last sentence . THEN KNOW and understand
that is the ecumiencal one world religoin . OH it came in as though its for the poor
it comes hyped up as though tis for humanity and it is love and is of GOD .
BUT NOR sir it exists to simply DECIEVE this world as it creates this universal love god
that will simply ensure THEY SIT HIGH OVER THE TOP and have all power and all control .
IN OTHER WORDS , this world is about to reap what he sowed too . THE IRON YOKE cometh .
FOR WHEN GOD called they did not answer
but when their men said THUS SAYETH THE LORD they heard that call . ONLY their men LED THEM FAR FROM GOD
and right to the inclusive one .

 

[Gray_Joy]

Okay. So you know how to post YouTube videos. Is there a reason?

The teaching in Ephesians 6 is highly relevant today. And especially as pertains to the environment that has injected itself into this thread.

 

[amigo de christo]

Still holds true today.
What are those Foundations?
We do Pray and The Lord is with Us
We bear reproach daily and it's getting more intense daily.

That's true, In Jerusalem they had no continuing city it had been destroyed by the Romans.
And that City is New Jerusalem which God has built and the structure of it are the members of the Church. The Bride.

1Co 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

What does it mean to manifest?
What is the manifestation of the Sons of God?

Gal 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Rom 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Eph 2:19
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Rev 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 22:5
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

This is our destiny,
This is our Heritage.
This is our reality.
We just need to manifest it.
Make it happen.


And God said, Let there be Light, and there was light.
The Light was manifest in the world and the world knew him not.
The Light of the World.

We are.

Mat 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. What city?

Jhn 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

manifested; manifesting; manifests
transitive verb
: to make evident or certain by showing or displaying

evident, manifest, patent, distinct, obvious, apparent, plain, clear mean readily perceived or apprehended. evident implies presence of visible signs that lead one to a definite conclusion.

Rom 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

1Ch 29:11
Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

1Jo 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Rev 15:4
Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

Until our Faith becomes a reality,

I wrote a reply and then realized , you cant hear.
Hugs

if anyone cares you can come help me on this interfaith thread .
The one that says THE MESSIAH has not yet come . cause anti christ is all over it .
Or as usual most can stay and debate what they really love , politics . but as for me
ITS JESUS my friend . HOPE to see you on the thread ziggy .

 

[amigo de christo]

The teaching in Ephesians 6 is highly relevant today. And especially as pertains to the environment that has injected itself into this thread.

you all can stay here and preach the gospel of trump
OR you can come help me preach the gospel on this intefaith thread .
THE ONE that says THE MESSIAH has not yet come . CAUSE OH HE SURE DID already .
SOmeone lying to the people . So if you are up to it , DO go and try and point to JESUS THE MESSIAH of GOD .

 

[Gray_Joy]

Not Christians, no. “Believers” is used in the Bible only in reference to followers of Christ.

Semantics.
Fine,I'll rephrase the question.

The Hebrews,Israel,weren't the saints, servants of the Lord, or the righteous?

 

[amigo de christo]

The teaching in Ephesians 6 is highly relevant today. And especially as pertains to the environment that has injected itself into this thread.

spiritual wickedness sure is all over high places .
And folks better be strapped with the armour of GOD
and not rather the armour of men who say THUS sayeth the LORD .
cause we got many decievers all over this land and the world Saying thus sayeth the LORD
ONLY IT DARN SURE CONTRADICTS HIS WORDS .

 

[Ziggy]

I would hope religious advocates don't allow those faith practices listed to be stripped of official recognition.

What does that term,official recognition,imply anyway? An exemption from the Civil Right protection of our First Amendment?

They been pulling this stuff for awhile. We just have to clean it up.
Because the next one added to the list would be Islam.
Even though they have their own ""chaplains"

Official Recognition of your faith. ?
So you know where that was heading.
We got it down to 31.
I wonder if there is a test you have to take or an application you have to fill out to get that Official Recognition ?

I like the way you think.

 

[Ziggy]

I would hope religious advocates don't allow those faith practices listed to be stripped of official recognition.

What does that term,official recognition,imply anyway? An exemption from the Civil Right protection of our First Amendment?

Religious Advocates. That's the angel of light right there.
2Co 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

And what are the religious advocates advocating for?
Well, that's that Chaplain's Salary they are bargaining for.

Not so much the rainbow flags, that's just pretty colors.
Behind those colors is lots of money.

All paid for by the Citizen taxpayer.
I don't think it would hurt too much to take that out of the 40 Trillion dollar debt we owe.
Everybody needs to cut corners when things get tight.

That's what they tell us.
Just another one of those pesky thorns that need plucking out.
And the White House just opened another Department
The White House Faith Office

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to assist faith-based entities, community organizations, and houses of worship in their efforts to strengthen American families, promote work and self-sufficiency, and protect religious liberty, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Policy. Faith-based entities, community organizations, and houses of worship have tremendous ability to serve individuals, families, and communities through means that are different from those of government and with capacity and effectiveness that often exceeds that of government. These organizations lift people up, keep families strong, and solve problems at the local level. The executive branch wants faith-based entities, community organizations, and houses of worship, to the fullest extent permitted by law, to compete on a level playing field for grants, contracts, programs, and other Federal funding opportunities. The efforts of faith-based entities, community organizations, and houses of worship are essential to strengthening families and revitalizing communities, and the Federal Government welcomes opportunities to partner with such organizations through innovative, measurable, and outcome-driven initiatives.
The executive branch is committed to ensuring that all executive departments and agencies (agencies) honor and enforce the Constitution’s guarantee of religious liberty and to ending any form of religious discrimination by the Federal Government.

Establishment of The White House Faith Office

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to assist faith-based entities,

www.whitehouse.gov

So we have Religious Advocates in this corner and you have White House Faith Office in this corner.

Which side you think will win?


We are in the middle of Spiritual Warfare.
Even if you can't see it, you should be able to feel it.
It's Heavy.

 

[Brakelite]

And sometimes only lethal force will stop evil. See God’s Judgment in the Lake of Fire.

That was the reasoning behind burning Christians at the stake. "They're going to burn anyway, let's help them on the way". I cannot help but be reminded that there will be some who will seek my life thinking they are doing God service. While all along all I am doing is serving God according to conscience. God has not given to you the insight or authority to judge another's conscience.

 

[ProDeo]

More Trump worshipping is being promoted.
The State Department is preparing a limited release of commemorative U.S. passports celebrating America’s 250th birthday that feature a picture of Donald Trump, who would be the first living president to be featured in the travel document.

All this "Trump promoting" starts to look a lot like what they did during 1930-40's Germany.

If Trump goes for a third term (against the Constitution) Trump lovers will swallow it, maybe even defend it, maybe even cheer.

 

[Wrangler]

Contact me by PM if wanting to further correspond about this thread.

I’ll see if I can cobble together a few words in PM. LOL

Don't bother. I'll be ignoring you after this post. Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension.

Not exactly the friendly sort. Odd to suggest I PM only to tell me not to bother. Oh well. Consider your dust shaken from my feet.

 

[Wrangler]

God has not given to you the insight or authority to judge another's conscience.

All we can do is judge another by their actions. This is the importance of politics, the just response to how people act. In Jesus' day adultery was a capital offense.

I've noticed a double standard on it today. When men cheat, it's because he's a scoundrel. When women cheat, it's also because her husband is a jerk, not giving her the attention she needs, etc. When he does it, he's bad. When she does it, she's a victim. As you said, we can't judge another's conscience.

 

[Lizbeth]

I fall more into line with these guys.

I don't believe for one moment that Jesus' command to sell a cloak to buy a sword was metaphorical. He said what He said and He meant it with no hidden meaning. Remember, He spoke to His disciples without parables.

I believe Jesus advised they have two swords for 12 men because it may be needed to defend themselves. But they were not to LIVE by that sword. We LIVE by the Word of God.

God may call me to physically defend myself, my children, grandchildren, etc. But, I should be ready to hear His voice if He says .... "Share the Gospel with them..." ....rather than use a weapon. That is living by the Spirit rather than a physical sword or weapon.

We don't go seeking violence, or starting conflicts, or killing children because they're born into a religion that is dangerous. God hasn't called us to that. It's wrong to start wars, to provoke violence, to attack and murder the innocent.

Yes, I believe that He meant it in a literal sense as well (as a deterrent in my view).......but just that if we dive down a bit deeper there I wonder if there might be a deeper message also, on top of it, kind of another layer to His words. I don't think anything is written in scripture that isn't for a reason...everything in scripture has meaning. I just wonder why bother mentioning in writing that about selling their cloaks if it has no meaning? When we are dwelling in faith/spirit we are dwelling in the shelter of the Most High...covering, protection, provision....a cloak.... But the fact is that most of us aren't there yet, or not always, so there are times and circumstances when we need to be wise and not put God to the test. That is not to condemn anybody, it is a matter of where we are in our growth realistically and also what measure of grace we have in the moment. And sometimes we don't need His miraculous intervention per se if there are simple options within reach....He is able to tell us what to do if we don't know.

I've heard of people even letting their children die and refusing medical help because they were supposedly trusting in God.........but if they were not truly in faith/spirit at the time they were being foolish. Either we are or we're not, we can't drum it up or pretend for "religious" reasons.

Anyway, it was just a thought in passing sis and thought I should clarify, I don't want to debate it and take the thread off track.