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So, basically, you haven't actually understood anything I have said. You're arguing just to argue.


Please stop with the nonsense and discuss things like a normal person and just tell me what you're referring to by "planting seeds."
what do you mean "normal" ? lol
God is moving across this earth.
If you can't feel it in your soul, if you can't recognize it in your spirit.
There is a Spiritual Revival taking place in many places.
And that Spirit that we Share as One Body, One Faith, One Lord and King and Savior,
if you can't see or hear the stirrings of God moving,
then you're not watching.
And you should be watching.

Luk 2:13
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Do you see peace on earth now? how about goodwill toward men?

Has there been peace on earth or goodwill towards men since the birth of Jesus?

Not peace in heaven, peace on earth.

That's where we are, on the earth.

Jesus isn't the babe in the manger, He is King of kings and Lord of lords.
And he is coming with his army to bring Peace on earth.

It's called...
Ready?

Peace through Strength.
:D

Isa 57:21
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Rev 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Do you know Him?
Or rather,
Does He know you?

Hugs
 

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Let us remember we who are in Christ are here because of Christ.


And we are free in America because God is with us.
 

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what do you mean "normal" ? lol
God is moving across this earth.
If you can't feel it in your soul, if you can't recognize it in your spirit.
There is a Spiritual Revival taking place in many places.
And that Spirit that we Share as One Body, One Faith, One Lord and King and Savior,
if you can't see or hear the stirrings of God moving,
then you're not watching.
And you should be watching.

Luk 2:13
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Do you see peace on earth now? how about goodwill toward men?

Has there been peace on earth or goodwill towards men since the birth of Jesus?

Not peace in heaven, peace on earth.

That's where we are, on the earth.

Jesus isn't the babe in the manger, He is King of kings and Lord of lords.
And he is coming with his army to bring Peace on earth.

It's called...
Ready?

Peace through Strength.
:D

Isa 57:21
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Rev 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Do you know Him?
Or rather,
Does He know you?

Hugs
What does any of this have to do with the discussion or anything I’ve said? Can you please stick to the topic.
 

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Let us remember we who are in Christ are here because of Christ.


And we are free in America because God is with us.
What does any of this have to do with the topic? And you’re not free in America, at least not nearly as much as you think you are:

 

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He whipped money changers and animals,and cleared his father's house of that evil.

You are not Jesus.

Show Scripture where Jesus told us to do the same.

The first born of every house in Egypt,and the first born of livestock,were killed by God's will when he sent his angel of death. Dead. Really,really,killed. By God's will.
He also drowned Pharaohs army later on in the Red Sea.

Save for 8 people,God drowned the world's people. And all animals,life,not brought into the Ark beforehand. Killed them.

God burned alive babies,children,women,men,in Sodom and Gomorrah.

Yes, God did all that.

Show Scripture where Jesus told us to do the same.

Instead I read :

Rom 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.
Rom 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
Rom 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.
Rom 12:20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Rom 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 

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Denying God's words isn't one of them.

Drafting false text and ideology that comports with a personal ideology of strong pacifism,isn't one of them.

What that is ,is interpolating scripture. And defending Isegesis.
All of which are grave sins.
Because they seek to override the history and teaching of the holy spirit.

It gives pleasure in the moment for disruptors to commit to such behavior.
But then they realize down the road. Those pesky Christians it was so much fun to mess with,weren't wrong.



You and those like you do that far too often.

Some are even going so far as to side with and defend Muslim terrorists and terrorism.

They can't imagine how that looks when they claim to know Christ. Who the Muslim terrorists deny as Messiah. And whose faithful they happily slaughter while screaming,God is great!

Oh,but we're suppose to love them. And stand idle while they behead our baby in her crib and set her afire,as Hamas did in October 2023.

When we seek those mass murderers out and kill them, we're the evil ones.
Just like the terrorist defenders say of God. Which is why they insist,he didn't lead armies in the Old Testimony of his work to establish his kingdom on Earth.

No. We're just reading him in the wrong way when we read the words he inspired to be recorded.



He tells us what to do.
You deny not only that but you deny Jesus himself acted in anger. He was God on Earth. He cannot sin.Ever.
He whipped money changers and animals,and cleared his father's house of that evil.

That's what it means when the text tells us,Jesus went after! The money changers and animals.

Adam and Eve had sex in Eden. And produced offspring. The text doesn't say that. The writing style of the time said, Adam knew his wife!
Which meant,he made love to Eve.

Writing style. Jesus went after the money changers with a handmade whip!
He could have swatted at them with his hands and screamed,to be effective. But he didn't resort to just that.
He made a whip!

And being God is Jesus Christ, you also ,and others like you,deny the God led battles and wars in the Old Testament.
How do you exise the Old Testament? And then claim you all believe what God says in his word?

You don't!

The first born of every house in Egypt,and the first born of livestock,were killed by God's will when he sent his angel of death. Dead. Really,really,killed. By God's will.
He also drowned Pharaohs army later on in the Red Sea.

Save for 8 people,God drowned the world's people. And all animals,life,not brought into the Ark beforehand. Killed them.

God burned alive babies,children,women,men,in Sodom and Gomorrah.

After he saved the one family he chose because they were the only example there of righteous living!

And that was after Lot offered his virgin daughters to be gang raped by the men of Sodom!
Because those men demanded Lot release to them so to be raped, the two angels God sent to come and fetch the family.

That's Bible. God. All of it and far more.
But you and others like you dare,dare,to say, no. That's not actually true and as it happened!

God's word. Inspired word. History in scripture.

And you and others like you call it a lie. And dare to rewrite the truth into a narrative that couches pacifism and impotence,as your words prefer it understood!

That's some imagination you all have.

Yes,we know that.



As a simpering coward who lies in his inspired word,so to then lead pacifists to excuse his actual history and apologize for it?

Of course not.

That's the calling of you and others like you.

You all don't realize,or maybe you do,which would be worse because ignorance cannot then become the excuse, are repeatedly blaspheming the holy spirit.

That should tell the rest of us what you're about.

And to be very direct. This isn't about differences of opinion.

This is calling out what is an anti-Christ agenda.

One that can only assault in print on-line what is in print and the focus of this community. God's words to the world!

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God's people be warned! We do not war against flesh and blood.

The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.
Oh ye of little faith, or perhaps none at all if you have not been born of His Spirit. Don't you remember Jesus miraculously slipping through the hands of the crowd that was attempting to seize Him and throw Him off a cliff? And did He raise a little army to go after His enemies who were trying to kill Him? No, He didn't. He even fled the temptation when one group tried to crown Him King of Israel in the literal sense. FOLLOWING Christ is not anti-christ, it is what being a true Christian is all about.

You use the old testament to justify your carnality, but we are in the gospel age now. The new covenant whereby mercy triumphs over judgment/justice.
 

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what do you mean "normal" ? lol
God is moving across this earth.
If you can't feel it in your soul, if you can't recognize it in your spirit.
There is a Spiritual Revival taking place in many places.
And that Spirit that we Share as One Body, One Faith, One Lord and King and Savior,
if you can't see or hear the stirrings of God moving,
then you're not watching.
And you should be watching.

Luk 2:13
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Do you see peace on earth now? how about goodwill toward men?

Has there been peace on earth or goodwill towards men since the birth of Jesus?

Not peace in heaven, peace on earth.

That's where we are, on the earth.

Jesus isn't the babe in the manger, He is King of kings and Lord of lords.
And he is coming with his army to bring Peace on earth.

It's called...
Ready?

Peace through Strength.
:D

Isa 57:21
There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Isa 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Rev 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Do you know Him?
Or rather,
Does He know you?

Hugs
Yea sister, there is peace and goodwill on earth toward men in the hearts of those on earth who know and follow Jesus. It has always only been about a remnant.....a few who find the narrow way that leads to life, not the many on the broad way that leads to destruction. Your "inspiration" is not of God and not according to truth....it is your own emotions riding on a high horse.

Do you know what Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots, riding the beast is a picture of? It is a picture of, first, spiritually adulterous Israel in bed with the world (Rome) leading to her destruction by Rome in 70AD............and now in the time of the Gentiles what has been will be again, and it is the mostly Gentile church in bed with the world, its kingdoms. But the beast will turn on her once he gets done using her, just like in the 1st century. Perhaps then some will wake up and buy gold refined in the fire and there will be revival among them. Saved so as by fire..? I pray so.
 

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Yea sister, there is peace and goodwill on earth toward men in the hearts of those on earth who know and follow Jesus. It has always only been about a remnant.....a few who find the narrow way that leads to life, not the many on the broad way that leads to destruction. Your "inspiration" is not of God and not according to truth....it is your own emotions riding on a high horse.

Do you know what Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots, riding the beast is a picture of? It is a picture of, first, spiritually adulterous Israel in bed with the world (Rome) leading to her destruction by Rome in 70AD............and now in the time of the Gentiles what has been will be again, and it is the mostly Gentile church in bed with the world, its kingdoms. But the beast will turn on her once he gets done using her, just like in the 1st century. Perhaps then some will wake up and buy gold refined in the fire and there will be revival among them. Saved so as by fire..? I pray so.
I want us all to ponder on something that has indeed become the heart of those whose hopes be in men .
There is a phrase in the bible .
For unto us a , TRUMP , or maybe a biden , or a pope , or etc , is born .
AND that the one THEY CLING TO as though its the ONE .
 
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Yea sister, there is peace and goodwill on earth toward men in the hearts of those on earth who know and follow Jesus. It has always only been about a remnant.....a few who find the narrow way that leads to life, not the many on the broad way that leads to destruction. Your "inspiration" is not of God and not according to truth....it is your own emotions riding on a high horse.

Do you know what Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots, riding the beast is a picture of? It is a picture of, first, spiritually adulterous Israel in bed with the world (Rome) leading to her destruction by Rome in 70AD............and now in the time of the Gentiles what has been will be again, and it is the mostly Gentile church in bed with the world, its kingdoms. But the beast will turn on her once he gets done using her, just like in the 1st century. Perhaps then some will wake up and buy gold refined in the fire and there will be revival among them. Saved so as by fire..? I pray so.
For unto us a child is born
Has now become fixed upon their leader .
People follow leaders as if leaders and their solutions be the answer .
Frankly it gets very tiresome to watch it too .
And the govt , of course they turn it into the earthen , shall be .......
This people has about zero to no idea what is and has been going on throughout the world , its religoins
its christendom , its politics , its inclusive god , its ecumiencal harlot .
THEY have no idea sister . ONE GOAL , ONE AGENDA
and they all in on it sister . THERE Is no place of this world that it cannot be found .
The problem is we got far too many in wool who are STILL OF THE WORLD and thus cannot see or discern
this for what it is .
 
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Oh ye of little faith, or perhaps none at all if you have not been born of His Spirit. Don't you remember Jesus miraculously slipping through the hands of the crowd that was attempting to seize Him and throw Him off a cliff? And did He raise a little army to go after His enemies who were trying to kill Him? No, He didn't. He even fled the temptation when one group tried to crown Him King of Israel in the literal sense. FOLLOWING Christ is not anti-christ, it is what being a true Christian is all about.

You use the old testament to justify your carnality, but we are in the gospel age now. The new covenant whereby mercy triumphs over judgment/justice.
How easy it is to see where ones faith is my dear sister .
When so ever any leader at all comes and stands and do things contrary to GOD ,TO CHRIST
THEY still trust in and defend their leader .
Many if they even had a billionth of a percent of the FAITH THEY GOT IN THEY LEADERS ,
and it had rather been in Christ . What faith truly could have f lourished in the LORD .
But this people has much faith , the only problem is , ITS IN MEN , ITS IN THE EARTHEN
and its in things QUITE contrary to GOD and TO HIS CHRIST and TO HIS KINGDOM which be HEAVENLY .