The Prophetic Feasts of Israel

[Earburner]

Doesn't change the fact that Paul and the bible support that humans all have an internal soul which lives on after physical death.

It is apparent that you can not understand what I said in post #115, which proves to me that you have been duped by "the wisdom of men" of church-ianity and therefore have you tightly wrapped in their denominational indoctrinated teaching, that "man was given a soul".

 

[ewq1938]

It is apparent that you can not understand what I said in post #115, which proves to me that you have been duped by "the wisdom of men" of church-ianity and therefore have you tightly wrapped in their denominational indoctrinated teaching, that "man was given a soul".

Man has a soul, that's biblical. What you teach is not biblical. This whole "duped by "the wisdom of men" of church-ianity" applies solely to yourself.

 

[Earburner]

The bible does not lie and it teaches we have a soul and spirit and body. Any teaching contradicting that is pagan/false religious nonsense. Also, I never said eternal soul but you falsely accused that. The soul is not eternal unless eternal life is granted by God.

I agree 100%, the Bible does not lie. But it is subject to interpretation because "God's thoughts and ways ARE NOT our thoughts and ways". Isa.55:8-9.

You have your interpretation through the Religion of men.
I have my interpretation through the Holy Spirit and the fulfilled prophecy of Dan. 12:4.

Edit: in post #115, I provided a wealth of spiritual information that by the Holy Spirit within you, he should enable you to become free of the comic book theory that "Man was given an a Eternal Soul".

By now, you should be able to answer truthfully of what exactly "the breath of life" is.

 

[ewq1938]

You have your interpretation through the Religion of men.

That mankind has no soul is from the false knowledge of man. It does not come from the bible or the Holy Spirit.

 

[William Barton]

Yes, that proves you to be a biblically based Religious christian, that can't let go of the religious LIE that man was given an Eternal Soul, of which contaminates every scripture and doctrine that touches upon the topic of eternal life and eternal destruction.

IMO:

"Eternal" in this context = "lasting for an age or ages" (Oxford English Dictionary).

 

[Earburner]

Doesn't change the fact that Paul and the bible support that humans all have an internal soul which lives on after physical death.

And of course you missed the whole point of this little discussion: "What is a soul?".
The religious authorities in church-ianity never do answer the question, except to say that "God GAVE man a soul!!" Of which answers nothing for the question of what a soul is.

 

[William Barton]

<God GAVE man a soul>

o A plant has a body.
o A dog has a body, and also has a soul (i.e. "intelligence").
o Adam had a body and a soul. He also had a spirit, that allowed communion with God..

Unfortunately our spirits are currently not functional, hence we have lost our communion with God.

 

[Earburner]

o A plant has a body.
o A dog has a body, and also has a soul (i.e. "intelligence").
o Adam had a body and a soul. He also had a spirit, that allowed communion with God..

Unfortunately our spirits are currently not functional, hence we have lost our communion with God.

Unfortunately you quoted me out of context in my post #126. Your error is here: ("> God GAVE man a soul<").
What I said in context is this: "The religious authorities in church-ianity never do answer the question, except to say that "God GAVE man a soul!!" Of which answers nothing for the question of what a soul is."

Fortunately, you and I do agree that "a soul" is the individual intelligence that is manifested in the autonomous being of every "natural man", without the aid of God in any way.

If one would pay attention to the wording of the Creation story in the KJV, they would find a wondrous truth about Adam & Eve. In the day of their creation, they were neither evil or good! They were simply Innocent, which is to have NO knowledge of that which is evil or good.

Though the Bible clearly reveals that EVERY person AFTER Adam & Eve were generated by "seed", some of the Religious powers that be, have even concocted the theory that there are disembodied souls waiting in heaven to enter into new born babies. That is just one of the many lame brain theories kicking around within the realm of church-ianity.

 

[Earburner]

o A plant has a body.
o A dog has a body, and also has a soul (i.e. "intelligence").
o Adam had a body and a soul. He also had a spirit, that allowed communion with God..

Unfortunately our spirits are currently not functional, hence we have lost our communion with God.

Surely it wouldn't be the simple fact that man never had Eternal existence of any kind, before or after their fall into sin, would it??
Of course not!!
In the first place, the Gift of eternal life from the Tree of Life was NEVER GIVEN to them, that it should be then taken away from them later on, after their fall.

However, in Gen. 3:22 we learn that AFTER their fall into sin, they were barred from the Tree of Life, LEST he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever (in their sinful condition).
We can safely conclude that Adam & Eve NEVER HAD Eternal existence of any kind.

 

[Earburner]

o A plant has a body.
o A dog has a body, and also has a soul (i.e. "intelligence").
o Adam had a body and a soul. He also had a spirit, that allowed communion with God..

Unfortunately our spirits are currently not functional, hence we have lost our communion with God.

Unfortunately you quoted me out of context in my post #126. Your error is here: ("> God GAVE man a soul<").
What I said in context is this: "The religious authorities in church-ianity never do answer the question, except to say that "God GAVE man a soul!!" Of which answers nothing for the question of what a soul is."

Fortunately, you and I do agree that "a soul" is the individual intelligence that is manifested in the autonomous being of every "natural man", without the aid of God in any way.

Though the Bible clearly states that EVERY person AFTER Adam & Eve were generated by "seed", some of the Religious powers that be, came up with the laughable theory that there are disembodied souls waiting in heaven to enter into new born babies.

 

[Earburner]

o A plant has a body.
o A dog has a body, and also has a soul (i.e. "intelligence").
o Adam had a body and a soul. He also had a spirit, that allowed communion with God..

Unfortunately our spirits are currently not functional, hence we have lost our communion with God.

Unfortunately you quoted me out of context in my post #126. Your error is here: ("> God GAVE man a soul<").
What I said in context is this: "The religious authorities in church-ianity never do answer the question, except to say that "God GAVE man a soul!!" Of which answers nothing for the question of what a soul is."

Fortunately, you and I do agree that "a soul" is the individual intelligence that is manifested in the autonomous being of every "natural man", without the aid of God in any way.

Though the Bible clearly states that EVERY person AFTER Adam & Eve were generated by "seed", some of the Religious powers (Jewish) that be, came up with the theory that there are disembodied souls waiting in heaven to enter into new born babies.

What is the guff? | GotQuestions.org

What is the guff? Is there a storehouse of souls in heaven? What is the definition of the guff?

www.gotquestions.org

The foolishness of the above concept is as equal to the concept of the RC Church and their belief of both Saved and Unsaved Immortal souls living on in Heaven, Hell and/or Purgatory after mortal death.

What Happens to Our Bodies Immediately after We Die?

What is the Church teaching on what happens after our earthly bodies die? Are we dead until Judgment Day or do we go directly to heaven, hell, or purgatory?

www.catholic.com

 

[ewq1938]

Fortunately, you and I do agree that "a soul" is the individual intelligence that is manifested in the autonomous being of every "natural man", without the aid of God in any way.

Another falsehood from church-ianity. This sounds very pagan IMO. So, man has no soul and what he does have comes from himself and God is not involved at all. lol

 

[William Barton]

IMO:
o Everything that happens stems from God, including our thoughts.

o God spoke and this *entire universe* came into existence, hence the idea that anything escapes what God ordains seems non-sequitur to me.

o Free will is a valid concept, but it is a human perception.

 

[Earburner]

Another falsehood from church-ianity. This sounds very pagan IMO. So, man has no soul and what he does have comes from himself and God is not involved at all. lol

Correct! Ever since our fall from innocence and into sin, we were forced to exit the Garden of Eden. At that time, both we and God Himself COULD NOT experience the Holy Communion of Himself permanently dwelling within us.

Therefore, we as "seed" bearing, self perpetuating, autonomous beings, having "animal life" only (nephesh-Gen. 7:21-22), but with self conscious intelligence, are of God's concern, and is keenlly and lovingly aware of our existence, which is more than that of many sparrows, which are also generated by "seed". Mat. 10:29-31; Luke 12:5-7.

 

[William Barton]

The seven Jewish yearly feasts celebrate seven acts of the Messiah:
1. Passover (slain as a lamb)
2. Unleavened bread (sinless body in the tomb)
3. First Fruits (first fruits from the grave)
4. Pentecost (sends the Spirit)
5. Trumpets (returns in judgment)
6. Atonement (atones for Israel)
7. Booths (Millennial reign)

 

[Earburner]

The seven Jewish yearly feasts celebrate seven acts of the Messiah:
1. Passover (slain as a lamb)
2. Unleavened bread (sinless body in the tomb)
3. First Fruits (first fruits from the grave)
4. Pentecost (sends the Spirit)
5. Trumpets (returns in judgment)
6. Atonement (atones for Israel)
7. Booths (Millennial reign)

I have a different understanding. Your listing of Feasts #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 and #7 are out of order with each other.
Without elaborating too much, I view the 7 Feasts in this order:

1. Passover (slain as the lamb of God)
2. Atonement (atones for sins of all people)
3. Unleavened bread (Jesus' sinless body in the tomb)
4. First Fruits (first fruits from the grave were the symbolic 144k of OC Israel- Mat. 27:50-54
5. Pentecost (sends the Holy Spirit)
6. Booths (Amil reign during Age of Grace)
7. Trumpets (returns in flaming fire for judgment)

 

[ewq1938]

Correct! Ever since our fall from innocence and into sin, we were forced to exit the Garden of Eden. At that time, both we and God Himself COULD NOT experience the Holy Communion of Himself permanently dwelling within us.

Therefore, we as "seed" bearing, self perpetuating, autonomous beings, having "animal life" only (nephesh-Gen. 7:21-22), but with self conscious intelligence, are of God's concern, and is keenlly and lovingly aware of our existence, which is more than that of many sparrows, which are also generated by "seed". Mat. 10:29-31; Luke 12:5-7.

Nonsense.

 

[Earburner]

Nonsense.

No sense to you, because you are not listening to the teaching of the Holy Spirit within you.
You have sold yourself out on the religious foolishness of denominational church-ianity and what THEIR Bible colleges and seminaries teach for the doctrines of men.
Read and digest all of 1 Cor. Ch. 2.

Here is the Jewish and Catholic foolishness, of which in many degrees/levels, contaminates most of Church-ianity and their teachings;

What is the guff? | GotQuestions.org

What is the guff? Is there a storehouse of souls in heaven? What is the definition of the guff?

www.gotquestions.org

What is a scapular

Belief in purgatory has been a part of the Catholic Church for centuries and continues to be a point of interest even in uncertainty.

uscatholic.org

In light of all the religious garbage in the above sites, try to remember that the repentant thief on the cross was granted entrance into Paradise on the day of Jesus death and resurrection. Jesus died (mortally) before the thief died.
Luke 23:42; Mat. 27:50-54.

Now, since the repentant thief died and then "lived on" in Paradise, what shall we say about the unrepentant thief who also died?
Did the unrepentant thief "live on" anywhere?
Absolutely not!!
He perished as Luke 13:3 describes it:
3. I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish;.

"Perish"
Strong's Number - G622
Greek: ἀπόλλυμι
Transliteration: apollumi
Pronunciation: ap-ol'-loo-mee
Definition: From G575 and the base of G3639; to destroy fully (reflexively to perish or lose) literally or figuratively: - destroy die lose mar perish.
KJV Usage: perish (33x), destroy (26x), lose (22x), be lost (5x), lost (4x), misc (2x).
Occurs: 100
In verses: 86

So then, if one believes in a "Purgatory", they most likely do believe in the "Guff" also, or something like it.
After all, everyone knows that we ALL have been GIVEN an Eternal and Immortal Soul(??)...lol.

 

[William Barton]

Could you please tell me where in the book of Revelation does the following verses occur?

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Didn't you say that the spring feasts were fulfilled?

No harvest. No fulfillment.


First off, as I said, the Jews will say "summer is ended, the harvest is over, and we are not saved. The harvest is over because they realize that the Church is in heaven.

To further answer your question...........

Here is the spring barley harvest of the dead in Christ.

Song of Solomon

8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

Here is the summer wheat harvest of the alive that remained.

Song of Solomon

13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

The seed of the woman which are the 12 tribes across the earth will be raptured on the Feast of Trumpets at the Last Trump. Then the other feasts will follow.

The Light asked:
<where>

Revelation 19:11-21 (Lamb of God becomes Lion of Jehovah).

 

[Jack]

Do you really think that Jesus will come to deliver unbelieving Jews from their enemies, keeping in mind that He called unbelieving Jews like the scribes and Pharisees hypocrites and a brood of vipers who were headed for hell (Matthew 23)? Scripture teaches that Jesus is coming to take vengeance on unbelievers, not deliver them from their enemies. All believing Jews and Gentiles will be caught up to meet Christ in the air when He comes and He will take vengeance on everyone else in Israel and every other nation.

There were MANY Jews who believed! Why are you filled with HATE for Israel? Guess where Jesus will return. It's called Israel, the Land of the Bible.