70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

[William Barton]

I cited the Greek, which as shown means "will".

" Covenant" in Daniel 9:27 is Hebrew בריח (Berit), an agreement between two parties that can never be broken by either party.

 

[William Barton]

Messiah the Prince

You missed the right non-epithet.

Messiah the Prince.

IMO:
o. משיח נגיד (Anointed Ruler, Daniel 9:25) refers to Jesus.
o. הבא נניד (Coming Ruler, Daniel 9:26) refers to Anti-Christ.

 

[rwb]

The "coming ruler" (Daniel 9:26) has numerous epithets: Antichrist, Prince of Darkness, Man of Lawlessness, False Christ, Beast, etc. He will oversee construction of the Jewish Temple, and then take his seat in it as though he were God.(2Thessalonians 2:4).

Not true! The coming 'prince' from the Hebrew is נָגִיד nâgîyd. The same Hebrew word also defines 'Messiah the Prince' of vs 25. If 'he' were some ordinary prince in vs 26 it would be translated from the Hebrew שַׂר sar not from נָגִיד nâgîyd. We find this throughout the book of Daniel, where prince is translated from שַׂר sar when speaking of a head person in any class or rank.

 

[covenantee]

" Covenant" in Daniel 9:27 is Hebrew בריח (Berit), an agreement between two parties that can never be broken by either party.

Hebrews 9:16,17 Greek specify "will", which requires a testator and the death of the testator.

There is no testator in an agreement between two parties.

But the definition of diathéké is either covenant or will/testament, so context determines applicability.

 

[covenantee]

Messiah the Prince

משיח נגיד (Anointed Ruler, Daniel 9:25) refers to Jesus.

True.

And via grammatical antecedent/referent/referback, Scriptural fulfillment, and Scriptural history; Daniel 9:26,27 also refer to Messiah the Prince Jesus.

 

[William Barton]

Covenantee noted:

<Daniel 9:26,27 also refers to Messiah>

I would say so.

 

[William Barton]

IMO:
Six empires were appointed to maintain order in the Middle East. These are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome.

I suppose people of the "coming ruler" (a.k.a. anti-Christ, Daniel 9:26) are the Romans, who destroyed the temple buildings in 70 A.D. I visited Israel once, there indeed is "not one stone upon a stone" (Matthew 24:2) where the temple once sat.

It's hot in Israel, and they get very little rain.

 

[covenantee]

Messiah the Prince


IMO:
o. משיח נגיד (Anointed Ruler, Daniel 9:25) refers to Jesus.
o. הבא נניד (Coming Ruler, Daniel 9:26) refers to Anti-Christ.

The identical word nā·ḡîḏ is used in Daniel 9:25 and 9:26.

In 9:25, it is translated "Prince".
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nā·ḡîḏ
נָגִ֔יד
a Prince
N‑ms

In 9:26 it is translated "leader".
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nā·ḡîḏ
נָגִ֤יד
of the leader
N‑ms

In 9:26, He is described as "coming".
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hab·bā
הַבָּא֙
who is coming
Art ¦ V‑Qal‑Prtcpl‑ms

Messiah fulfills all three.

He is a Prince, who is a leader, who came several hundred years after Daniel wrote.

Daniel 9:24-27 is all about Messiah.

 

[Truth7t7]

Messiah the Prince


IMO:
o. משיח נגיד (Anointed Ruler, Daniel 9:25) refers to Jesus.
o. הבא נניד (Coming Ruler, Daniel 9:26) refers to Anti-Christ.

I Agree 100% good work

Many of these posters have (the prince to come) in Dan 9:26 and the "He" in Daniel 9:27 as Jesus Christ, hard to believe, setting up the unaware by this false teaching

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No such thing as the time of the gentiles lasting 2,000 years and waiting, that's a preterist fairy tale

Luke 21:24 & Revelation 11:2 is the same event in parallel teachings, and it will take 42 months in fulfilling

Revelation 11:1 represents the future New Jerusalem in the New Heaven, Earth to be measured

Revelation 11:2 represents the earth and the future outer court of a future temple to be built in Jerusalem and a daily sacrifice resumed, this being a abomination to the Lord as you have been shown and Isaiah 66:1-4 was clearly explained

LOL. So, the scene inexplicably changes from the future new Jerusalem in Revelation 11:1 to the earth and a future temple to be built in Jerusalem with daily sacrifices resumed? Talk about a fairy tale. You are butchering the text horribly. No future temple built by antichrist Jews can be called God's temple. How can you believe such a fairy tale? God's temple is always one that He ordains and dwells in. He does not dwell in temples made with hands (Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24). How in the world can you think some future physical temple in Jerusalem could possibly be the temple of God? That's a total dispensationalist fairy tale that you have bought into.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I Agree 100% good work

Many of these posters have (the prince to come) in Dan 9:26 and the "He" in Daniel 9:27 as Jesus Christ, hard to believe, setting up the unaware by this false teaching

You have bought into the dispensationalist lie and are agreeing with the worst interpretation of any verse in the entire Bible that he ever been done by turning a verse about Jesus Christ confirming the new covenant and making the old covenant sacrifices and offerings obsolete into a prophecy about an imaginary future Antichrist instead. You couldn't possibly interpret the verse more wrongly if you tried.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The very same generation that witnesses Jerusalem being trodden down will be the very same generation that will be eye witnesses of the Lord's literal, visible, second coming in the heavens, these are "Future" events unfulfilled, and that seen below in scripture didn't take place in a 70AD Jerusalem with Roman armies in destruction

When will the Church on this earth look up and see Jesus Christ their redemption returning in the heavens?

"FUTURE LITERAL EVENTS UNFULFILLED"

Luke 21:24-28KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Are you trying to slander me? You know that I believe Luke 21:25-28 refers to future return of Jesus Christ, so why would you want to make it seem as if I believe otherwise? Do you have no interest in being an honest person with integrity? Do you have no interest in actually behaving like a Christian on this Christian forum? You think it's okay to try to make it seem like I believe something other than what I actually believe? What do you think you accomplish by doing that?

 

[Truth7t7]

LOL. So, the scene inexplicably changes from the future new Jerusalem in Revelation 11:1 to the earth and a future temple to be built in Jerusalem with daily sacrifices resumed? Talk about a fairy tale. You are butchering the text horribly. No future temple built by antichrist Jews can be called God's temple. How can you believe such a fairy tale? God's temple is always one that He ordains and dwells in. He does not dwell in temples made with hands (Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24). How in the world can you think some future physical temple in Jerusalem could possibly be the temple of God? That's a total dispensationalist fairy tale that you have bought into.

Will There Be A Future Temple Rebuilt In Jerusalem, Scripture Suggest There Will Be?​

Isaiah 66:1-4 strongly suggest a rebuilt house/temple dedicated to God by the Jews, with renewed animal sacrifice, this will be an "Abomonation" to the Lord and the cross of Calvary, God will send them a strong delusion

Point Of Interest: The word "Delusion" is used 2 times in the KJV, and they are both associated with a house/temple, and it appears that the scripture presented could be "Parallel Readings" of the same event?

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV

1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11KJV

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

 

[Truth7t7]

You have bought into the dispensationalist lie and are agreeing with the worst interpretation of any verse in the entire Bible that he ever been done by turning a verse about Jesus Christ confirming the new covenant and making the old covenant sacrifices and offerings obsolete into a prophecy about an imaginary future Antichrist instead. You couldn't possibly interpret the verse more wrongly if you tried.

Scripture interprets itself before your eyes, will you deny God's words of truth?

Daniel 9:26-27 (the prince that shall come) is Daniel's (Little Horn) "He" will destroy the temple/sanctuary and stop the daily sacrifice as seen in Daniel 8:9-11

Conclusion: The "He" in Daniel 9:27 is (The Little Horn) "He" will stop the daily sacrifice and destroy the sanctuary/temple, "He" will have a human body that is destroyed and given to (the lake of fire/burning flame) at the Lord's second coming in final judgement (The Books Were Opened)

"He" the (Little Horn) will be on this earth in a living body at the Lord's second coming in fire and final judgement, this is (The Future Consummation) just as Daniel 9:27 teaches

Jesus Is The Lord

Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Daniel 8:9-11KJV
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Will There Be A Future Temple Rebuilt In Jerusalem, Scripture Suggest There Will Be?​

Isaiah 66:1-4 strongly suggest a rebuilt house/temple dedicated to God by the Jews, with renewed animal sacrifice, this will be an "Abomonation" to the Lord and the cross of Calvary, God will send them a strong delusion

Point Of Interest: The word "Delusion" is used 2 times in the KJV, and they are both associated with a house/temple, and it appears that the scripture presented could be "Parallel Readings" of the same event?

Isaiah 66:1-4KJV

1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11KJV

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

LOL. Nowhere does scripture prophesy a future FAKE temple of God, which is what a physical temple built in the future by antichrist Jews would be. You are living in fairy tale land.

 

[Truth7t7]

LOL. Nowhere does scripture prophesy a future FAKE temple of God, which is what a physical temple built in the future by antichrist Jews would be. You are living in fairy tale land.

I Disagree

The future fake temple with animal sacrifice resumed is clearly seen in Isaiah 66:1-4, God calls it an abomination

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Scripture interprets itself before your eyes, will you deny God's words of truth?

I deny your many false interpretations of God's words of truth. You continue to make an utter fool of yourself with the worst interpretation of any verse in all of scripture by attributing a verse about our great God and Savior Jesus Christ to an imaginary Antichrist instead.

Prophecy:

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

Fulfillment:

Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate;

Hebrews 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second...13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me. 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—In the volume of the book it is written of Me—To do Your will, O God.’ ” 8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Luke 19:41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I Disagree

The future fake temple with animal sacrifice resumed is clearly seen in Isaiah 66:1-4, God calls it an abomination

Isaiah 66:1-4 says NOTHING about any fake temple that scripture would call God's temple. Any time scripture refers to God's temple it is truly God's temple that He ordained to be built and that He dwelled in, including the two physical temples of the past, Christ's body, our bodies or the corporate body of Christ (the church).

This FAKE temple you falsely believe will fulfill Bible prophecy cannot possibly be what scripture calls "God's temple" or "the temple of God" in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and Revelation 11:1. You have to change God's temple into a fake temple of God in order to make it fit your false beliefs.

 

[Truth7t7]

I deny your many false interpretations of God's words of truth. You continue to make an utter fool of yourself with the worst interpretation of any verse in all of scripture by attributing a verse about our great God and Savior Jesus Christ to an imaginary Antichrist instead.

Prophecy:

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

Fulfillment:

Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate;

Hebrews 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second...13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me. 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—In the volume of the book it is written of Me—To do Your will, O God.’ ” 8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Luke 19:41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, 44 and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

Sorry (The prince to come) is Daniel's (Little Horn) who will be a future literal human man, that will be present on this earth at the Lord's future second coming as you've been clearly shown

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Sorry (The prince to come) is Daniel's (Little Horn) who will be a future literal human man, that will be present on this earth at the Lord's future second coming as you've been clearly shown

I just showed you the truth of how to properly understand Daniel 9:27 and you deny it. You have only yourself to blame.