To be JUSTIFIED

[Justified]

1. Paul in galatians is talking about these believers falling from grace/Christ in Ephesians 2:8 if they go back under the law correct?

I don’t see anything in the context to suggest he was talking about that. He seems to be talking more about Gentiles being fellow heirs of the gospel.

So your problem is you think james is speaking of people who have no works because their not saved in the first place
Correct?

I want to make sure I understand you first then I will reply

Yes, that is what James is saying. He is not saying that people will lose their salvation without works, but that works are evidence of salvation.

 

[WHO ME]

I don’t see anything in the context to suggest he was talking about that. He seems to be talking more about Gentiles being fellow heirs of the gospel.

Let me deal with one verse at a time)

Paul says in verse 1 for them to STAND FAST in the LIBERTY WHERE CHRIST has made us FREE and become NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN with the yoke of bondage.... that if they go back under the law they will have FALLEN FROM GRACE and Christ has become of no effect..

Only believers (in this case jews) can stand fast in the liberty where Christ has made us free and Not be entangled again (in the law)... correct?

Its not likely that gentiles came out from under the bondage of the law only jews

Fyi I know people dont live on here so I will wait for your answer

 

[Justified]

Let me deal with one verse at a time)

Paul says in verse 1 for them to STAND FAST in the LIBERTY WHERE CHRIST has made us FREE and become NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN with the yoke of bondage.... that if they go back under the law they will have FALLEN FROM GRACE and Christ has become of no effect..

You had stated, “Paul in galatians is talking about these believers falling from grace/Christ in Ephesians 2:8.” Keep Galatians in its context and keep Ephesians in its context. I was addressing Ephesians.

If you want to better understand James 2:14-26, a better comparison is Rom. 4.

Only believers (in this case jews) can stand fast in the liberty where Christ has made us free and Not be entangled again (in the law)... correct?

Its not likely that gentiles came out from under the bondage of the law only jews

All believers risk getting entangled in the law, whether for the first time or the second.

 

[WHO ME]

WHO ME said:
1. Paul in galatians is talking about these believers falling from grace/Christ in Ephesians 2:8 if they go back under the law correct?
JUSTIFIED REPLIED: I don’t see anything in the context to suggest he was talking about that. He seems to be talking more about Gentiles being fellow heirs of the gospel
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WHO ME REPLYS: Ok now I see why you answered as you did... I did not mean paul was speaking in galatians 5:1-4 about eph 2:8..
It does sound as such... I only meant that when he mentions grace in galatians it was the same grace AS in eph 2:8 and nothing more....


So let me do it again... from my original post number 1

When Paul was talking to jews who had came out from under the law and become believers and then jews under the law were telling them they couldnt be save without the law Paul says:

Galatians 5:1-4
1) Stand fast in the liberty where Christ has MADE YOU FREE and become not entangled AGAIN in bondage.
2) that if you are circumcised (under the law) Christ shall profit you nothing
4) Christ has become of no effect to you, if you go back under the law - you have Fallen From Grace

So we see if these new believers go back under the law they've lost the grace which saved and justified them and will lose their salvation....

 

[WHO ME]

Now in James are you saying that those people whose faith is dead because they have no works are unbelievers (not saved)?