If you are an obedient follower of Christ Jesus, do you walk out of restaurants that serve halal meat? I have to ask everywhere I go and if they say yes, I walk out. I will not knowing eat meat offered to a demon. Muslims are being tolerated and are taking over the US. Praying for Christ Jesus to return and end all this.
Tolerance is sin
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Dan Clarkston
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OK, so the New Testament speaks on this so what scripture references do you have that it is a sin for a mature Christian, who is not moved by false gods as they effect them not, to eat foods prepared by false religions that serve devils.
A believer can in fact eat these foods of their conscience allows it and if doing so is not making weaker brothers stumble.
1 Corinthians 8:4-13
As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
1 Corinthians 10:27-33
If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.
But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:
Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?
For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
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I know what scripture says but I think you are missing the point. Islam is being catered to in America and is taking over at restaurants and grocery stores. They are taking over in schools and the public square. Christians should stand against it. Their demon god is no match for YHVH. and for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it, the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.
Dan Clarkston
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And you thought the US was not going to go down hill and follow evil just like the rest of the world in the end times?
The only way to stop it is to take up arms and go whack 'em all.
The Lord does not teach the Body of Christ to do that
Dude you are in far and way way too caught up in the world around us.
It's time to abide IN Christ and separate from the world.
Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled
Walking in sorrow, worry, fear, anxiety, etc is sinful behavior because it's NOT walking by faith and such behavior is an open door to the enemy come in and attack
Romans 14:23
Whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Yes, and in the end all the demons will be thrown in to hell along with most people.
OK, so you follow that and don't eat.
I might want to go down to the moslem restaurant and eat and witness to them while I'm there.
I'll make it clear that salvation is only thru Jesus Christ.
It would not be sin for me to do so. I'm strong in the Lord and in the power of His might so no demons are going to jump on me just because I ate some food they prayed to a demon over asking the demon to "bless" their food.
Yes, liberty needs to be restricted if one is not very strong in the Lord like Paul was where he got right out there among 'em so he could share the Gospel with them.
We are in the world not of it, and some mature in the Lord and get very strong where the world's viewpoints does not threaten them or cause them to fall away from the Lord.
do you partake in horoscopes, yoga, crystals, magic arts, homosexual events/pride parades, join in prayers to pagan gods and such because you are strong in The Lord and can do all those things according to your view listed above.
Yes the world is not going to get better and America will fall too one day. But that does not mean we do not continue in the race.
Taking a stance against demonic practices is what I will continue to do. We are to fight the good fight. Tolerance is sinning against God.
Dan Clarkston
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No part of my post suggests any agreement with the demonic activities you have listed.
The topic being discussed is eating food, not walking after the flesh.
Don't bother reading 1 Corinthians 8:4-13 and 1 Corinthians 10:27-33.
These passages aren't for the baby believers still dirtying their diapers who are so weak in the faith they don't know that God says in His Word that we have power and authority over demons and it meaningless for mature believers to eat food offered to false gods because those false gods are powerless and meaningless to those who know who they are in Christ and know how to walk in the authority the Lord provided for His Body to walk in.
The difference is demons just bounce right off of me and have no effect where as it's obvious some are weak in the faith and as such they really should remain indoors with the shades closed so they can enjoy living in fear.
If these weak in the faith people interact with the world they will be devoured by the demons they are so afraid of.
These following false doctrine have been tricked by the devil in to exiting the race and they are so ignorant of the Doctrine of Christ that they don't even know it.
Then for you if you aren't out killing ALL who are living in sin then apparently that is sin for you because you are in fact tolerating sin all around you by not removing them from the world which is the only way to stop reprobates from spreading their doctrines of demons
You are so far in the ditch you can't even share the gospel witch anybody because based on what you are saying is it would be sin to not force them to stop sinning - in other words you are tolerating sin all around you.
That was God's Word, not my opinion.
I read the first sentence and then stopped reading. Maybe you should learn how to communicate in a godly way. You seem always ready to accuse and belittle. You don't represent a Christ Jesus follower.
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