Tolerance is sin

[TheOneHeLoves]

If you are an obedient follower of Christ Jesus, do you walk out of restaurants that serve halal meat? I have to ask everywhere I go and if they say yes, I walk out. I will not knowing eat meat offered to a demon. Muslims are being tolerated and are taking over the US. Praying for Christ Jesus to return and end all this.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

If you are an obedient follower of Christ Jesus, do you walk out of restaurants that serve halal meat? I have to ask everywhere I go and if they say yes, I walk out. I will not knowing eat meat offered to a demon. Muslims are being tolerated and are taking over the US. Praying for Christ Jesus to return and end all this.

OK, so the New Testament speaks on this so what scripture references do you have that it is a sin for a mature Christian, who is not moved by false gods as they effect them not, to eat foods prepared by false religions that serve devils.

A believer can in fact eat these foods of their conscience allows it and if doing so is not making weaker brothers stumble.

1 Corinthians 8:4-13
As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

1 Corinthians 10:27-33
If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.
But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:
Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?
For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

OK, so the New Testament speaks on this so what scripture references do you have that it is a sin for a mature Christian, who is not moved by false gods as they effect them not, to eat foods prepared by false religions that serve devils.

A believer can in fact eat these foods of their conscience allows it and if doing so is not making weaker brothers stumble.

1 Corinthians 8:4-13
As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

1 Corinthians 10:27-33
If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.
But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:
Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience?
For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

I know what scripture says but I think you are missing the point. Islam is being catered to in America and is taking over at restaurants and grocery stores. They are taking over in schools and the public square. Christians should stand against it. Their demon god is no match for YHVH. and for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it, the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Islam is being catered to in America

And you thought the US was not going to go down hill and follow evil just like the rest of the world in the end times?

Christians should stand against it.

The only way to stop it is to take up arms and go whack 'em all.

The Lord does not teach the Body of Christ to do that

Dude you are in far and way way too caught up in the world around us.
It's time to abide IN Christ and separate from the world.

Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled

Walking in sorrow, worry, fear, anxiety, etc is sinful behavior because it's NOT walking by faith and such behavior is an open door to the enemy come in and attack

Romans 14:23
Whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Their demon god is no match for YHVH.

Yes, and in the end all the demons will be thrown in to hell along with most people.

for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it

OK, so you follow that and don't eat.

I might want to go down to the moslem restaurant and eat and witness to them while I'm there.
I'll make it clear that salvation is only thru Jesus Christ.

It would not be sin for me to do so. I'm strong in the Lord and in the power of His might so no demons are going to jump on me just because I ate some food they prayed to a demon over asking the demon to "bless" their food.

the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.

Yes, liberty needs to be restricted if one is not very strong in the Lord like Paul was where he got right out there among 'em so he could share the Gospel with them.

We are in the world not of it, and some mature in the Lord and get very strong where the world's viewpoints does not threaten them or cause them to fall away from the Lord.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

And you thought the US was not going to go down hill and follow evil just like the rest of the world in the end times?




The only way to stop it is to take up arms and go whack 'em all.

The Lord does not teach the Body of Christ to do that

Dude you are in far and way way too caught up in the world around us.
It's time to abide IN Christ and separate from the world.

Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled

Walking in sorrow, worry, fear, anxiety, etc is sinful behavior because it's NOT walking by faith and such behavior is an open door to the enemy come in and attack

Romans 14:23
Whatsoever is not of faith is sin.




Yes, and in the end all the demons will be thrown in to hell along with most people.




OK, so you follow that and don't eat.

I might want to go down to the moslem restaurant and eat and witness to them while I'm there.
I'll make it clear that salvation is only thru Jesus Christ.

It would not be sin for me to do so. I'm strong in the Lord and in the power of His might so no demons are going to jump on me just because I ate some food they prayed to a demon over asking the demon to "bless" their food.




Yes, liberty needs to be restricted if one is not very strong in the Lord like Paul was where he got right out there among 'em so he could share the Gospel with them.

We are in the world not of it, and some mature in the Lord and get very strong where the world's viewpoints does not threaten them or cause them to fall away from the Lord.

do you partake in horoscopes, yoga, crystals, magic arts, homosexual events/pride parades, join in prayers to pagan gods and such because you are strong in The Lord and can do all those things according to your view listed above.


Yes the world is not going to get better and America will fall too one day. But that does not mean we do not continue in the race.

Taking a stance against demonic practices is what I will continue to do. We are to fight the good fight. Tolerance is sinning against God.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

do you partake in horoscopes, yoga, crystals, magic arts, homosexual events/pride parades, join in prayers to pagan gods and such because you are strong in The Lord and can do all those things according to your view listed above.

No part of my post suggests any agreement with the demonic activities you have listed.
The topic being discussed is eating food, not walking after the flesh.

Don't bother reading 1 Corinthians 8:4-13 and 1 Corinthians 10:27-33.

These passages aren't for the baby believers still dirtying their diapers who are so weak in the faith they don't know that God says in His Word that we have power and authority over demons and it meaningless for mature believers to eat food offered to false gods because those false gods are powerless and meaningless to those who know who they are in Christ and know how to walk in the authority the Lord provided for His Body to walk in.

The difference is demons just bounce right off of me and have no effect where as it's obvious some are weak in the faith and as such they really should remain indoors with the shades closed so they can enjoy living in fear.

If these weak in the faith people interact with the world they will be devoured by the demons they are so afraid of.

But that does not mean we do not continue in the race.

These following false doctrine have been tricked by the devil in to exiting the race and they are so ignorant of the Doctrine of Christ that they don't even know it.

Tolerance is sinning against God.

Then for you if you aren't out killing ALL who are living in sin then apparently that is sin for you because you are in fact tolerating sin all around you by not removing them from the world which is the only way to stop reprobates from spreading their doctrines of demons

You are so far in the ditch you can't even share the gospel witch anybody because based on what you are saying is it would be sin to not force them to stop sinning - in other words you are tolerating sin all around you.

according to your view listed above

That was God's Word, not my opinion.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

No part of my post suggests any agreement with the demonic activities you have listed.
The topic being discussed is eating food, not walking after the flesh.

Don't bother reading 1 Corinthians 8:4-13 and 1 Corinthians 10:27-33.

These passages aren't for the baby believers still dirtying their diapers who are so weak in the faith they don't know that God says in His Word that we have power and authority over demons and it meaningless for mature believers to eat food offered to false gods because those false gods are powerless and meaningless to those who know who they are in Christ and know how to walk in the authority the Lord provided for His Body to walk in.

The difference is demons just bounce right off of me and have no effect where as it's obvious some are weak in the faith and as such they really should remain indoors with the shades closed so they can enjoy living in fear.

If these weak in the faith people interact with the world they will be devoured by the demons they are so afraid of.




These following false doctrine have been tricked by the devil in to exiting the race and they are so ignorant of the Doctrine of Christ that they don't even know it.




Then for you if you aren't out killing ALL who are living in sin then apparently that is sin for you because you are in fact tolerating sin all around you by not removing them from the world which is the only way to stop reprobates from spreading their doctrines of demons

You are so far in the ditch you can't even share the gospel witch anybody because based on what you are saying is it would be sin to not force them to stop sinning - in other words you are tolerating sin all around you.




That was God's Word, not my opinion.

I read the first sentence and then stopped reading. Maybe you should learn how to communicate in a godly way. You seem always ready to accuse and belittle. You don't represent a Christ Jesus follower.

 

[Taken]

Tolerance is sin

Disagree.

Tolerance is the capacity “TO Endure” what one does NOT Believe / Agree / Stand with..

…God can Tolerate.
…Humans can Tolerate.

Sin is the capacity “TO NOT” BELIEVE / Agree / Stand with… The Lord God Almighty.

…God can NOT… “NOT Believe IN the Lord God Almighty.”
…Humans CAN … “NOT Believe IN the Lord God Almighty.” <—-> SIN!

SIN <—-> Only Against God.
SIN <—-> Only able to be Forgiven by God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[markalan]

If you are an obedient follower of Christ Jesus, do you walk out of restaurants that serve halal meat? I have to ask everywhere I go and if they say yes, I walk out. I will not knowing eat meat offered to a demon. Muslims are being tolerated and are taking over the US. Praying for Christ Jesus to return and end all this.

I would only refuse to eat if I thought it would affect another person ... for example, if someone felt that eating at a halal restaurant meant I thought the Allah of Islam was the same as the God of Christianity.

It's a similar situation to attending a same sex wedding ... my attendance could be seen as approval or tolerance of homosexuality ... which many churches now do.

 

[ScottA]

I know what scripture says but I think you are missing the point. Islam is being catered to in America and is taking over at restaurants and grocery stores. They are taking over in schools and the public square. Christians should stand against it. Their demon god is no match for YHVH. and for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it, the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.

Hello beloved,

Perhaps it is being catered to in some places in America, but not all. But yes, as Christians, or just Americans, we should not tolerate such things being imposed upon us.

But you have also described a very rigid practice of avoiding many things you should know as a follower of Christ, you have been sent free from. Which does not include partaking some things, like crystals, magic arts, homosexual events/pride parades, and joining in prayers to pagan gods--as you mentioned. But Christ has overcome the world, and many things are now captured territory, not to be feared or regulated as if still active. So, eating bacon, enjoying much of secular music, or trick-or-treating for candy (rather than celebrating the dead), are now harmless. Let the children play. This is the biblical message of walking among or being bitten by poisonous snakes and not being harmed--it's not about snakes per se--it's about Satan having lost his power over such things. Relax--enjoy life--indeed, be free!

 

[quietthinker]

Tolerance is sin​

In that case God must be extremely sinful. He has put up with more than we can imagine.

 

[Wrangler]

This reminds me of an article by Bishop Chaput. Evil begs for tolerance, then when common, condemns good.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/atrcff

 

[Wrangler]

Tolerance is sin​

In that case God must be extremely sinful. He has put up with more than we can imagine.

As usual, you may be a quiet thinker but you aren't a clear thinker; God has a plan to ultimately defeat evil via the Lake of Fire. Patience. Tolerance. Not the same thing.

My ex-wife accused me of not being flexible, as if flexible is a virtue. She didn’t like it when I suggested she bend to my will, since she’s so virtuous in her flexibility.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

I would only refuse to eat if I thought it would affect another person ... for example, if someone felt that eating at a halal restaurant meant I thought the Allah of Islam was the same as the God of Christianity.

It's a similar situation to attending a same sex wedding ... my attendance could be seen as approval or tolerance of homosexuality ... which many churches now do.

Are you saying you would attend same sex ceremony?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

You don't represent a Christ Jesus follower.

Some people who claim to be following Jesus certainly have no respect for what the Lord teaches in His Word and as such they need help, so when someone points out what God says in His Word - the ones following false doctrine reject the one trying to get them to acknowledge what the Lord says in His Word because they are offended and have allowed the devil to choke God's Word out of them (see Mark 4:13-20)

It's a similar situation to attending a same sex wedding ... my attendance could be seen as approval or tolerance of homosexuality ... which many churches now do.

No actually the liberty in Christ we have does not give Christians the right to agree with and support that which God says is an abomination unto Him which is what sexual perversion is.

Totally different situation that eating food which God's Word talks about. There are no scriptures saying gay so called "marriage" is acceptable by the Lord and going to a celebration of perverts coming together is a slap in God's face!

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Having agreement with the abominable (those walking in abominations) makes one worthy of death - which means they deserve to be separated from the Lord as they are carnal minded which is death (separation from the Lord, see Romans 8:6-8)

Those doing such separate themselves from God and are sensual, not having the Spirit. (Jude 1:19)

Are you saying you would attend same sex ceremony?

Apparently he's gay friendly since he is indicating he thinks liberty in Christ means it's OK to celebration things that are abomination to the Lord.

You know, I learned all I needed to know about sex back in kindergarten when the kids all learned that boys have an outtie and girls have an innie - we could tell right away that these part were designed to work together.

Funny how little children have more spiritual knowledge before the Lord than adults do today.

This is why Jesus said the Kingdom of God is made up of dear children because a dear child will believe what the Father says whereas a tare will seek to stand in opposition to the Lord.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Some people who claim to be following Jesus certainly have no respect for what the Lord teaches in His Word and as such they need help, so when someone points out what God says in His Word - the ones following false doctrine reject the one trying to get them to acknowledge what the Lord says in His Word because they are offended and have allowed the devil to choke God's Word out of them (see Mark 4:13-20)




No actually the liberty in Christ we have does not give Christians the right to agree with and support that which God says is an abomination unto Him which is what sexual perversion is.

Totally different situation that eating food which God's Word talks about. There are no scriptures saying gay so called "marriage" is acceptable by the Lord and going to a celebration of perverts coming together is a slap in God's face!

Romans 1:32
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Having agreement with the abominable (those walking in abominations) makes one worthy of death - which means they deserve to be separated from the Lord as they are carnal minded which is death (separation from the Lord, see Romans 8:6-8)

Those doing such separate themselves from God and are sensual, not having the Spirit. (Jude 1:19)




Apparently he's gay friendly since he is indicating he thinks liberty in Christ means it's OK to celebration things that are abomination to the Lord.

You know, I learned all I needed to know about sex back in kindergarten when the kids all learned that boys have an outtie and girls have an innie - we could tell right away that these part were designed to work together.

Funny how little children have more spiritual knowledge before the Lord than adults do today.

This is why Jesus said the Kingdom of God is made up of dear children because a dear child will believe what the Father says whereas a tare will seek to stand in opposition to the Lord.

I am not offended by the Word of God and live my life based on the teachings and commands. Don't make assumptions on my beliefs or my obedience. Ask.

We are to witness by living good lives among the pagens so that we glorify God.
My desires are to honor God and teach and train disciples. I have been teaching verse by verse the books of the Bible since 2013. Several classes a week in fact. I know my actions are not for who people look at me but how people can see God through me. My identity is in Christ Jesus alone. Therefore, I don't live like the majority of the world. I am bold in my convictions yet instead of yelling at people and leading with anger and condemnation, I will talk to them and explain who God and what He has ordered and why.

 

[amigo de christo]

I know what scripture says but I think you are missing the point. Islam is being catered to in America and is taking over at restaurants and grocery stores. They are taking over in schools and the public square. Christians should stand against it. Their demon god is no match for YHVH. and for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it, the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.

it is true that islam is of anti christ . on that there is no doubt .
but there is now a religon and it too begins with I .
This religion is the fastest growing one on planet earth . IN Fact
ALL false religoins are supping now of its cup
as is much of christendom , politics and the world .
IT IS none other than the religoin to merge THE DECIEVED false religoins
with the decieved on earth , with the decieved of even many within christendom .
And its all inclusive god is satan . And his ecumeincal intefaith whore has poured this love unto the nations
and many now drink of this cup .
IT will merge them , it will and even now is convncing them , we must be one for world peace and find common ground .
And no other religoin on earth HOLDS the POWER it does .
FOR this is who is gonna rule the earth . HE who controls THE AI DIGITAL SYSTEM . A GLOBAL SYSTEM .
A system in which if one do not conform to the will of the inclusive god , THEY NO BUY and THEY NO SELL
And this system IS GLOBAL . no sitting president , no prime minstir or any other leader of any nation
WILL have control over it .
THIS IS WHO WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER IT . And the dragon gave him his seat and g reat POWER
And he had POWER over the nations . THE beast that was and IS NOT and yet IS .
Islam , many key leaders have already bowed the knee to the ecumiencal harlot , as has MUCH of christendom , as has
every other religon on earth . as have many poltiicans , kings , prime ministirs and leaders of the nations .
THE HOUR of our betrayal draws nigh . IT WILL RAGE WAR
against all who kept the commandments of GOD and had the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST . that is WHO its enemy is .
But unto all who took the cup , the all inclusive cup and drank the love of an ecumeicnal harlot ,
THEY WILL SIMPLY BELEIVE THEY DO THE WILL OF GOD , THIS IS HIS PLAN FOR PEACE
and that we mere sheep are naught but haters who know not GOD or love , and are potentential terrorists
that must be rounded up . FEAR IT NOT . JESUS HAS THE SHEEP . but do beware
and do not sip of the inclusive cup of a harlot and her love . for by her love she has DECIEVED THEM ALL .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I know what scripture says but I think you are missing the point. Islam is being catered to in America and is taking over at restaurants and grocery stores. They are taking over in schools and the public square. Christians should stand against it. Their demon god is no match for YHVH. and for the record I walk by THE Holy Spirit and He instructed me not to eat of it, the same way He keeps me from cussing, watching secular movies, listening to secular music, and partaking of things of the demonic.

We stand against these things, not by protesdting or picketing or shouting from the roof tops about an particular evil.

We stand against these things by praying for Muslims to know Christ, not partaking in their services, not by trying to remove them.

I fear you are going to go crazy as th eword moves inexorably to the one world super church, the rise of the antichrist and false prophet etc..

Our job is not to root out evil per se by legisislating or protesting, but we are called to go and preach the gospel and make disciples.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

We stand against these things, not by protesdting or picketing or shouting from the roof tops about an particular evil.

We stand against these things by praying for Muslims to know Christ, not partaking in their services, not by trying to remove them.

I fear you are going to go crazy as th eword moves inexorably to the one world super church, the rise of the antichrist and false prophet etc..

Our job is not to root out evil per se by legisislating or protesting, but we are called to go and preach the gospel and make disciples.

We don't know when Jesus will return. It could be another 1000 years. Since Jesus's ascended to Heaven everyone has been awaiting His return. We are called to fight the good fight until the end.

The warning to the Church of Thyatira states (Rev 2:20) I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophetness. By her teachings she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

I am sure when The Revelation of Jesus Christ was given to John, many taught the 2nc coming was near. Christians still needed to resist the evil of the world and the movement of all antichrist movements.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial, and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.