A question on forgiveness

[Dan Clarkston]

many within it are of this reformed theology . many of them are prosperity preachers

Yes and most of those claim they have nothing to do with reformed theology and yet their teachings reflect that they are in agreement with it

And concerning prosperity, you did not understand that it was God's idea for His people to prosper in every area of their lives? The devil is the one deceiving people to believe God wants His people to be poor so they will have less influence in the world so the devil and his crowd's influence can grow.

3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth
(being healthy is also the will of the Lord)

God's Word provides instructions on how to handle financial prosperity along with warnings on what not to do concerning financial prosperity so we know it's not against the will of the Lord for His people to be financially prosperous.

It's always odd that people come along and claim God wants all His people to be dirt poor and those making these false claims all live in a nice home, they have plenty of clothes to wear and food to eat, most of them have more than one car and numerous electronic devices so they are hypocrites because they are living well themselves while claiming living well is sinful.

 

[CrowCross]

It's always odd that people come along and claim God wants all His people to be dirt poor and those making these false claims all live in a nice home,

Are you saying if you are against the "prosperity gospel"....name it a claim it....those people want all of God children to be dirt poor?
That they all live in nice homes???? (whatever a nice home is)

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Trivia question time .
How did they react when they saw sin and error within their churches .
Remember paul had given them warning so as they would repent before He came and had to bring
the ROD .
Now imagine if paul had the technology , WE Do today , and could see
all of what was going on in forums . OH i bet he would be warning double time
Even making me look like a powder fluff .
Cause believe you me , i see sin and error all over the place and worse
I dont see folks co rrecting it . IN fact i see the most deadliest thing of all
being allowed to remain . False gospels , justificiation of sins even .
You can bet all you own if paul was here today .............
lets just say YALL would be running for me to save you FROM HIM . You think i warn
and am grave . PLease i fall far short . You s hould have seen JESUS in action
and the apostels in action . Read acts . You see .
I do a gree , its not all about jus warning . but friend , when you see sin
You gotta warn somebody . In fact if i had more help here
And all were more serious about sin and error , we had also had more time to
focus on praises and encourag ments too .
ALso we live in a day and an age wherein this mystery of inquity , OH its blossomed .
But the problem is when anyone tries to correct it , they get seen as nohtin g but a hater
And the ones pumping even false gospels , allowed to remain . OF course its not our site
SO we cannot remove them . But we sure can join together and warn against such doctrine .

So have y0uo been appointed by God to go and root out all teh sin in these churches? Or are you busy just complaining about it here?

Yes in the churches of god there is lots of sin, because the churches are filled with people. But it is up to the local pastors ad elders to deal with the congregations they are appointed shepherds over. Not a forum where we can complain about how imperfect churches are.

Personally I tire of people going on you tube, other social medias and even forums talking all about how evil the people of God and the phony people of God are. I remember this parable:

24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Unless we have an appointed responsibility to poinjt out tares among the wheat, let us go forth sowing precious seed and let the appointed shepherds care for the flock.

We can talk about bad doctrine and even those who promote it, but we must tread this ground with care.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Here is a question . Did you know that right now
we have both a love and a peace that the false religoins and a lot of christendom are all beleiving is of GOD .
Did you know that .
Its a love , claimed to be of G OD , and its bringing all religoins and yes even christendom
together as they pump out also a peace . And they all beleive it to be of GOD .
And yet i have easily examined it . IT is ANTI GOD , ANTI CHRIST .
No doubt about this at all my friend . And guess what all b rought it in ...........THE ECUMEINCAL MOVMENT DID .
Ever wonder why i am warning ag ainst it so much .
YES , in fact if you find this hard to beleive
THEN take the time to examine it for YOU . THEY have all been using the word LOVE a lot .
EVEN all of them , muslims , buddists , chrisitanity , jews , All being shown
saying GOD is love and giving messages of how we even serving the SAME GOD
and this is his peace plan for the world . KINDA ODD dont ya think
SEEING their interreligious dialgoue peace TOTALLY LIED TO ALL religoins as well as christendom
GUESS what got omitted in this big ol lov e , this big ol peace plan . THE GOSPEL DID . flat out DENIED .
But more and more of the false religoins , and woe woe woe , even christendom now buys into this .
AS IF GOD , AS IF HIS LOVE or HIS PEACE , DENIES HIS OWN GOSPEL . someone getting lied to ronald .
I tried to warn us , satan can say GOD is love and i darn sure know
he , this so called anti christ , SETS UP A PEACE plan and by IT DESTROYS MANY .
That is why i been warning non stop about thsi inclusive god , this all inclusive god . ITS satan .
OH IT SOUNDS LOVING to the decieved . SOUNDS Like one big lovey do g od that just desires good for us all .
ONLY PROBLEM IS , JESUS BEEN DENIED . UNBELIEF dont work to teh GOOD of anyone . satan is a liar ronald .
And a smooth talker that one is .

Yes i know all about this. I have done seminars on the danger of ecumenism and the coming one world super religion. we are not going to stop this from happening, no matter how many rooftops we scream it from. It is not our job to point out eh false but to elevate the true!

Treasury agents learn to spot counterfeit bills by studying the true bills so hard that it becomes natural and easy to spot counterfeit.

Remember the Words of Jesus:

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

When we are in the master fields, we are to fucus on harvesting teh wheat and pointing out and avoiding the tares. NOt have you tube videos weekly airing Christendoms dirty laundry to the world.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Are you saying if you are against the "prosperity gospel"....name it a claim it....those people want all of God children to be dirt poor?

I'm saying they are ignorant of what God's Word teaches about it being God's will that His people prosper not just financially but in every area of life. They get all upset about rich people while they themselves are seeking material things in their lives while they are barking about how having material stuff is sinful.

The love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10) and there are people that have no money that are guilty of loving money and so they rail against anybody that has money. Notice God's W0ord does not say money itself is evil. No, the Lord says the LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil and most who are poor have the love of money thinking li9fe would be good if they just had some money

Concerning name it claim it... if God promises something in His Word and I claim that as being true for me based on God's promise and I walk in it and get what God promised, then that is biblical Christianity.

Those that believe the Lord does not want His people to prosper or to be healthy have been deceived by the devil in to being blinded by what God's Word teaches on these topics.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Are you saying if you are against the "prosperity gospel"....name it a claim it....those people want all of God children to be dirt poor?
That they all live in nice homes???? (whatever a nice home is)

No! what people are saying is the prosperity gospel is a false gospel! There is nothing wrong with being wealthy if it gotten honestly. But ewe must pay careful attention to the words of God through Paul:

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1 Timothy 6:7-9

King James Version

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7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

 

[CrowCross]

I'm saying they are ignorant of what God's Word teaches about it being God's will that His people prosper not just financially but in every area of life. They get all upset about rich people while they themselves are seeking material things in their lives while they are barking about how having material stuff is sinful.

The love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10) and there are people that have no money that are guilty of loving money and so they rail against anybody that has money. Notice God's W0ord does not say money itself is evil. No, the Lord says the LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil and most who are poor have the love of money thinking li9fe would be good if they just had some money

Concerning name it claim it... if God promises something in His Word and I claim that as being true for me based on God's promise and I walk in it and get what God promised, then that is biblical Christianity.

Those that believe the Lord does not want His people to prosper or to be healthy have been deceived by the devil in to being blinded by what God's Word teaches on these topics.

Thank you for clearing up your position.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

So you believe ytou are sinlessly perfect then and do not transgress! WOW! The first perfect person on earth!

 

[CrowCross]

No! what people are saying is the prosperity gospel is a false gospel! There is nothing wrong with being wealthy if it gotten honestly. But ewe must pay careful attention to the words of God through Paul:

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1 Timothy 6:7-9​

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King James Version​

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7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

I agree...money isn't God.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So you believe you are sinlessly perfect then and do not transgress! WOW! The first perfect person on earth!

So you believe you are a sinner and cannot ever stop sinning. Lots of false doctrine like that going around. Sinners are of the devil.

Those advocating for sin out themselves as the tares Jesus warned about seeing they reject the whole counsel of the Lord as they fundamentally misunderstand the Gospel due to having been taught dead, carnal minded religious traditions rather then what the Lord teaches in His Word.

1 John 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil

John 8:34
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

1 John 3:7
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOES righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

I agree...money isn't God.

Money is a tool. Jesus and the Apostles all handled money.

This world runs on money so no it is not to be put first place in one's life (which would be idolatry).

Try to get along in this life without money and see how it works out.