God Commands Righteous Violence

[Wrangler]

We must always oppose evil,

The thread title is God says to use righteous violence - with vid listing verses. Some reject it with an unnecessary qualifier, such as @Armour of God didn’t say that on Tuesday - AS IF that invalidates the OP.

 

[Armour of God]

The thread title is God says to use righteous violence - with vid listing verses. Some reject it with an unnecessary qualifier, such as @Armour of God didn’t say that on Tuesday - AS IF that invalidates the OP.

What are you talking about?
How am I trying to invalidate the OP?
What did I say on Tuesday, yesterday? Nothing
I'm agreeing with you
Only other thing I said on this thread was on Monday when I was agreeing with you again.

 

[Matthias]

The thread title is God says to use righteous violence …

What “righteous violence” did Jesus and the apostles do? What “righteous violence” have you personally done?

If you’re going to demand that the followers of Jesus do “righteous violence” then you need to answer those questions.

 

[Wrangler]

What are you talking about?
What did I say on Tuesday? Nothing
I'm agreeing with you
Only other thing I said on this thread was on Monday when I was agreeing with you again.

Sorry buddy! I just used your name. @Anchorite used another person's name as an unncessary qualifer and I added "on Tuesday" to keep it going.

1. God said use righteous violence.
2. Harry never said to use righteous violence.
3. Harry never said to use righteous violence on a Tuesday.

Just because point 2 & 3 are true doesn't mean that point 1 is NOT true. God said it. Yea but Harry didn't say it. Appeal to Diversion or Strawman.

 

[Armour of God]

For those saying Jesus never used violence



That's righteous indignation

 

[Matthias]

For those saying Jesus never used violence

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That's righteous indignation

Do you see no difference between the actions of Vlad the Impaler (which harmed men, women, and children) and the actions of Jesus and the apostles (which harmed no one)?

 

[Lambano]

What if the answer turns out to be both sides?

Or neither side?

 

[Matthias]

Or neither side?

The nations act, Christians kill one another, and God patiently delays taking vengeance?

 

[Matthias]

“Imitate me, as I do the Messiah.”

(1 Corinthians 11:1, ISV)

@Wrangler @Armour of God would either of you say that Vlad the Impaler imitated Paul?

 

[Armour of God]

If someone attacks your family, tries to rape your daughter, should you allow this evil man to have his way... Off course not....
Protecting your family is necessary

If you see someone attack an old lady to steal her purse, should you turn a blind eye to this evil doer... Off course not...
Protecting the weak and elderly is necessary

We must always oppose evil, no matter what shape or form it's in

 

[Rockerduck]

If someone attacks your family, tries to rape your daughter, should you allow this evil man to have his way... Off course not....
Protecting your family is necessary

If you see someone attack an old lady to steal her purse, should you turn a blind eye to this evil doer... Off course not...
Protecting the weak and elderly is necessary

We must always oppose evil, no matter what shape or form it's in

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Psalms 91 -
1 Those who live in the shelter of the Most High
will find rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 This I declare about the Lord:
He alone is my refuge, my place of safety;
he is my God, and I trust him.
3 For he will rescue you from every trap
and protect you from deadly disease.
4 He will cover you with his feathers.
He will shelter you with his wings.
His faithful promises are your armor and protection.
5 Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night,
nor the arrow that flies in the day.
6 Do not dread the disease that stalks in darkness,
nor the disaster that strikes at midday.
7 Though a thousand fall at your side,
though ten thousand are dying around you,
these evils will not touch you.
8 Just open your eyes,
and see how the wicked are punished.

 

[Matthias]

Psalms 91 -
1 Those who live in the shelter of the Most High
will find rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 This I declare about the Lord:
He alone is my refuge, my place of safety;
he is my God, and I trust him.
3 For he will rescue you from every trap
and protect you from deadly disease.
4 He will cover you with his feathers.
He will shelter you with his wings.
His faithful promises are your armor and protection.
5 Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night,
nor the arrow that flies in the day.
6 Do not dread the disease that stalks in darkness,
nor the disaster that strikes at midday.
7 Though a thousand fall at your side,
though ten thousand are dying around you,
these evils will not touch you.
8 Just open your eyes,
and see how the wicked are punished.

Who is tasked with punishing the wicked in the New Testament?

 

[Matthias]

“Imitate me, as I do the Messiah.”

(1 Corinthians 11:1, ISV)

@Wrangler @Armour of God would either of you say that Vlad the Impaler imitated Paul?

They don’t have to answer questions about their hero.

As for me -

“Be like Paul.” Count me in.

”Be like Vlad the Impaler.” Count me out.

 

[Rockerduck]

Who is tasked with punishing the wicked in the New Testament?

The same God in both the old and new testament. Jesus protects us.

Romans 8:28- We know that all things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose.
2 Thessalonians 3:3 - But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one

 

[Matthias]

The same God in both the old and new testament. Jesus protects us.

Romans 8:28- We know that all things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose.
2 Thessalonians 3:3 - But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one

As true as that is, the answer is the state. See Romans 13.

 

[Rockerduck]

As true as that is, the answer is the state. See Romans 13.

Yes, we are to honor who God chooses to lead us. Jesus is who protects the elect.

 

[Triumph1300]

God informs us not only the wicked but the (innocent) children of the wicked will die).

You rejoice when over 200 school girls die during a bombing campaign.
That's your testimony, that's how you win people for Christ?
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Everything you posted in the past promoting Jesus Christ is of no value whatsoever anymore.

 

[Matthias]

Yes, we are to honor who God chooses to lead us. Jesus is who protects the elect.

Now back to the 1st century and Nero. (The historical setting for Paul.) Did the Christians honor him?

 

[Rockerduck]

Now back to the 1st century and Nero. (The historical setting for Paul.) Did the Christians honor him?

Martyrs were given a choice. No dishonor.

 

[Matthias]

Martyrs were given a choice. No dishonor.

What choice did Nero give them? Did they honor Nero?