To understand Christianity, you must understand Judaism

[amigo de christo]

Judaism is centered on the Mosaic covenant - God’s Law given through Moses, the temple system, and the expectation of the promised Messiah.
Christianity is: the fulfillment of that promise in Jesus Christ. The New Testament presents Him as the completion of what Judaism pointed toward.

Scripture makes the distinction clear:

“Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” (Romans 10:4)
The Old Covenant is replaced by the New in Christ (Hebrews 8:6–13)
The Law was a tutor to lead us to Christ (Galatians 3:24–25)
Salvation is found in Christ alone (John 14:6)

So the difference is Judaism looks towards the coming Messiah, and they are still waiting. Christianity declares that the Messiah (Jesus) has come and established a New Covenant in His blood.

And many had better watch out . For he who cometh in his own name rises and all religoins will worship it as one .
The inclusive god cometh and even now has long b een at work to form a peoples , make ready a peoples .
This spirit has been at work amongst all religoins to make ready a people by preaching acceptance .
As john the baptist had come to prepare the peoples for Christ and preached repentance
So too have these come to make ready a peoples for that which is of Anti christ and preached acceptance , tolerance and inclusivity .
Till now the great and mighty imams and g reat and mighty of the jews , and of much of christendom
and other religoins now cry as one voice to their own
GOD IS LOVE , LET US BE ONE . THIS is how we shall all attain world peace n safety .
And he has pumped his interreligious dialgoue of anti christ unto them all .
The flesh cannot save , it cannot profit anyone . IT is JESUS Preaching time in the building .
The inclusive one rises and by means of a powerful AI led digital system
will enforce its inclusive law . IN that day and in that hour anything that is deemed
offensive , deemed as non inclusive , as hate , as contrary to the inclusive love god and its image
THEY WILL be cast out . in fact even unable to buy or sell in this d igital world .
And it cometh sooner that folks realize . It will enforce the law of what it calls love , and it claims
is of GOD and will b ring peace on earth . My advice get anyone living out of
the inclusive ecumiencal interfaith and NOW . they are being led to THE LIE .
THE LIE by which all will be damned .

 

[amigo de christo]

This is how I feel when whoever makes the statement " well you know Jesus was a jew" like what is implied there? What's your point? ( Not you personally)
He is God incarnate first and foremost.

The web of the god who cometh in its own name is very diverse and inclusive indeed .
Soon by means of a powerful AI digital led system
IT will enforce its law of inclusivity. a law that in heart says , YE can be accepted by GOD without faith
As by inclusvity the dire need to BELEIVE on JESUS has been made void .
The religoin of all relig oins has come in the name and under the claim that it be love and is of GOD .
As throughout time the dark one has always used scrips twisted
and has even formed a dark rainbow , so too has it formed its own peace plan
And though its co workers cliam this is the plan of GOD for world peace
HEED not a word one outta they mouths .
FOR by its peace it has made VOID the very PEACE PLAN of GOD .
FOR By GOD it was determined that through CHRIST ALONE , faith in HIM , can one be reconciled
and have PEACE with GOD .
But he who cometh in his own name and his co workers have through inclusive ecumencial intefaith
MADE VOID the dire necessity to BELIEVE ON JESUS and has taught them all A LIE .
The earthen is IN BONDAGE . Only the heavenly Jersualem is free and is above .
And the key center of this world inclusive religion of interfaith will be ...................IN JERSUALEM .
the f lesh profits nothing . whether a jew or a gentile , YE MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHIRST .
And all who do so are born of GOD . The inclusive one and its kings shall reign
and make great war against all that did not conform to the image of what it said was God and love and the solution
for world peace . It is a liar . It has been in the garden and first tempted eve . JESUS overcame that one .
SO too shall all in CHRIST JESUS whose faith BE IN HIM . all else will beleive a lie and they will surely be damned .
FOR THEY rejected THE LOVE of the truth whereby they could be saved . preach JESUS to the last breath my friend .

 

[Angelina]

And many had better watch out . For he who cometh in his own name rises and all religoins will worship it as one .
The inclusive god cometh and even now has long b een at work to form a peoples , make ready a peoples .
This spirit has been at work amongst all religoins to make ready a people by preaching acceptance .
As john the baptist had come to prepare the peoples for Christ and preached repentance
So too have these come to make ready a peoples for that which is of Anti christ and preached acceptance , tolerance and inclusivity .
Till now the great and mighty imams and g reat and mighty of the jews , and of much of christendom
and other religoins now cry as one voice to their own
GOD IS LOVE , LET US BE ONE . THIS is how we shall all attain world peace n safety .
And he has pumped his interreligious dialgoue of anti christ unto them all .
The flesh cannot save , it cannot profit anyone . IT is JESUS Preaching time in the building .
The inclusive one rises and by means of a powerful AI led digital system
will enforce its inclusive law . IN that day and in that hour anything that is deemed
offensive , deemed as non inclusive , as hate , as contrary to the inclusive love god and its image
THEY WILL be cast out . in fact even unable to buy or sell in this d igital world .
And it cometh sooner that folks realize . It will enforce the law of what it calls love , and it claims
is of GOD and will b ring peace on earth . My advice get anyone living out of
the inclusive ecumiencal interfaith and NOW . they are being led to THE LIE .
THE LIE by which all will be damned .

@amigo de christo, I agree that Scripture warns about deception, false religion, and the antichrist spirit, and that salvation is found in Christ alone. However, my post was addressing the biblical difference between Judaism and Christianity. The central issue is that Judaism does not recognize Jesus as the Messiah, while Christianity confesses that Jesus is the promised Messiah who established the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:6-13). Whatever our views on future events, that remains the fundamental distinction.

 

[GeneZ]

The only way to truly understand what Jesus Christ accomplished on the Cross requires we learn and understand the
ways of atonement as laid out in the Law of Moses.

The reason it says... "To the Jew first," was because the faithful Jews at the time of the Cross were instantly prepared by virtue of having lived under the Law's requirements, to be able to reason quickly and adjust to accepting what Jesus fulfilled, according to the teachings of atonement as practiced in Judaism from the inception of God choosing the Jewish people to be His people.

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo, I agree that Scripture warns about deception, false religion, and the antichrist spirit, and that salvation is found in Christ alone. However, my post was addressing the biblical difference between Judaism and Christianity. The central issue is that Judaism does not recognize Jesus as the Messiah, while Christianity confesses that Jesus is the promised Messiah who established the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:6-13). Whatever our views on future events, that remains the fundamental distinction.

Oh i was simply reminding us all . Angelina , we got us a big ol harlot at work . She a monster and has infiltrated
every realm known to man . And i am not kidding . she a powerhouse of great influence upon many waters .
NOW TO THE TRENCHES one and all . The great betrayer and our betrayal stands at the door .
READY to be enforced at any time by a power house of an AI led digital system . IT can be enforced TONIGHT if they so desired .
This people is not ready for what is or what is coming and shall come upon the sheep .
WE got a whore amongst us all now and soon her ecumeincal phase will become the crusades
against and upon all who did not conform to her inclusive ways and idle empty love that never was of GOD
but all who bought it Beleived her love to be of GOD .
Angelina i have warned for years and for years . And it has all come to pass . SO too will this
THE BLOOD of the sheep will run into the streets and those who put them out and deliver them over
unto govts , WILL believe THEY DO THE WILL OF GOD and FOR WORLD PEACE , UNITY and LOVE .
But it was the dragon they followed .

 

[Angelina]

Oh i was simply reminding us all . Angelina , we got us a big ol harlot at work . She a monster and has infiltrated
every realm known to man . And i am not kidding . she a powerhouse of great influence upon many waters .
NOW TO THE TRENCHES one and all . The great betrayer and our betrayal stands at the door .
READY to be enforced at any time by a power house of an AI led digital system . IT can be enforced TONIGHT if they so desired .
This people is not ready for what is or what is coming and shall come upon the sheep .
WE got a whore amongst us all now and soon her ecumeincal phase will become the crusades
against and upon all who did not conform to her inclusive ways and idle empty love that never was of GOD
but all who bought it Beleived her love to be of GOD .
Angelina i have warned for years and for years . And it has all come to pass . SO too will this
THE BLOOD of the sheep will run into the streets and those who put them out and deliver them over
unto govts , WILL believe THEY DO THE WILL OF GOD and FOR WORLD PEACE , UNITY and LOVE .
But it was the dragon they followed .

@amigo de christo, I agree we must be alert to deception, but my point was the clear biblical distinction between Judaism and Christianity: Jesus as the promised Messiah and the New Covenant in His blood. I can’t follow claims that move into identifying specific people or systems in end-times speculation; Scripture calls us to test all things and stay grounded in the gospel (1 John 4:1, 1 Cor. 15:1–4).

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo, I agree we must be alert to deception, but my point was the clear biblical distinction between Judaism and Christianity: Jesus as the promised Messiah and the New Covenant in His blood. I can’t follow claims that move into identifying specific people or systems in end-times speculation; Scripture calls us to test all things and stay grounded in the gospel (1 John 4:1, 1 Cor. 15:1–4).

i aint talking about that at all . I can only warn as i am LED to warn . And i warn us all
that OUR betrayer and our be trayal is at the door and it will come swiftly when it come .
It will come in un der the AI led digitial system . The god of inclusivity , the god who said HAS God really said
HAS been real busy angelina . And now and very soon even its ecumeincal phase
of its interreligious dialgoue which is and be OF ANTI CHRIST , will BECOME LAW .
and in that day and in that hour to expose sins , to speak and warn men to repent and BELEIVE ON JESUS
WILL be seen as OFFENSIVE and sh ut down . WE got lied too angelin a . IT was never
about RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE and FREEDOM . IT Was about the establishment of the religoin of inclusivity
and it will be AI and its elect that determine what is deemed as hate , deemed as mis or dis information ,
deemed as even dangerous and a threat to society . WE got LIED TOO sister .
And most folks are way too ingnorant to realize this . For they say OH if my president is in power
HE will make sure we are kept safe , and so too the other side assumes this .
BUT me oh my , THE PRESIDENTS , will not be in control at all of this AI INCLUSIVE GLOBAL SYSTEM .
THE ONE WORLD GOVT WIL LBE . THIS IS A GLobal system . and it is for the BEAST who will rage war against the saints .
WE all been lied too sister . CLING to CHRIST and go out faithf ul to the last breath .

 

[Angelina]

i aint talking about that at all . I can only warn as i am LED to warn . And i warn us all
that OUR betrayer and our be trayal is at the door and it will come swiftly when it come .
It will come in un der the AI led digitial system . The god of inclusivity , the god who said HAS God really said
HAS been real busy angelina . And now and very soon even its ecumeincal phase
of its interreligious dialgoue which is and be OF ANTI CHRIST , will BECOME LAW .
and in that day and in that hour to expose sins , to speak and warn men to repent and BELEIVE ON JESUS
WILL be seen as OFFENSIVE and sh ut down . WE got lied too angelin a . IT was never
about RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE and FREEDOM . IT Was about the establishment of the religoin of inclusivity
and it will be AI and its elect that determine what is deemed as hate , deemed as mis or dis information ,
deemed as even dangerous and a threat to society . WE got LIED TOO sister .
And most folks are way too ingnorant to realize this . For they say OH if my president is in power
HE will make sure we are kept safe , and so too the other side assumes this .
BUT me oh my , THE PRESIDENTS , will not be in control at all of this AI INCLUSIVE GLOBAL SYSTEM .
THE ONE WORLD GOVT WIL LBE . THIS IS A GLobal system . and it is for the BEAST who will rage war against the saints .
WE all been lied too sister . CLING to CHRIST and go out faithf ul to the last breath .

I hear your concern, but I’m not engaging in speculative claims or end times prophecy. Scripture calls us to be watchful, yes, but also sober-minded (2 Tim. 1:7; Matt. 24:6).

My point remains the same: Judaism and Christianity differ at the confession of Jesus as Messiah and the New Covenant in His blood. That is the biblical issue I raised, and I’m keeping the discussion on par with the context of this thread.

 

[Luther7]

There are so many maniac Jew haters these days.

Never said anything about hating anyone. But that's usually where the argument goes when there is no understanding of what is being said.

And you have no clue as to what their religion teaches about you. That's where my focus is, not with the individual. We don't know who God is going to save, or who rejects that ideology/agenda.

 

[Grailhunter]

Never said anything about hating anyone. But that's usually where the argument goes when there is no understanding of what is being said.

And you have no clue as to what their religion teaches about you. That's where my focus is, not with the individual. We don't know who God is going to save, or who rejects that ideology/agenda.

LOL
Life long formally educated Theologian.
Yeap I know what the Jews preach and believe.
And if you do not believe me when I say there are a lot of manic Jew haters out there.....turn you television on.

 

[חוכמה]

This was an interesting read @Grailhunter .
The knowledge the Essenes had of their religion has been covered when they were alive and has remained covered long after their deaths. But I am convinced through my own seeking, that indeed we must dive into Judaism to some degree, to see what the roots are of our religion. And I have done so. Indeed their view of pleasing God is widely different, but not necessarily the ‘structure’ of God, or aspects.
One from the tribe of Judah will try and please Him through his left side, which is Wrath. A Christian pleases Him through his right side: Grace or Mercy.
But Paul, the apostle, who knew the Judaic Law very well ofcourse, told us that because of the Law (of the tribe of Judah) those who follow it are sinners. Because there are no sinners when there is no law, but everyone was a sinner because no one lived a perfect life. Until He sent His Son.

I ordered a book to read about the early church fathers and their views, because I think that the closer we go to Jesus’ times, the more true the views were around our Faith.

 

[Grailhunter]

This was an interesting read @Grailhunter .
The knowledge the Essenes had of their religion has been covered when they were alive and has remained covered long after their deaths. But I am convinced through my own seeking, that indeed we must dive into Judaism to some degree, to see what the roots are of our religion. And I have done so. Indeed their view of pleasing God is widely different, but not necessarily the ‘structure’ of God, or aspects.
One from the tribe of Judah will try and please Him through his left side, which is Wrath. A Christian pleases Him through his right side: Grace or Mercy.
But Paul, the apostle, who knew the Judaic Law very well ofcourse, told us that because of the Law (of the tribe of Judah) those who follow it are sinners. Because there are no sinners when there is no law, but everyone was a sinner because no one lived a perfect life. Until He sent His Son.

I ordered a book to read about the early church fathers and their views, because I think that the closer we go to Jesus’ times, the more true the views were around our Faith.

List of writings from the Early Church Fathers

Early Church Fathers

Early Church Fathers: information and documents concerning the early fathers of the church!

earlychristianwritings.com

The writings of the Early Church Fathers gives us an idea of what they were thinking and believing.

The topic of sin....can be confusing. First of all it involves Christian Greek. The Greek word sin means your arrow missed the target. Because the New Testament was written in Koine Greek.....a Pagan language, it did not have Christian theological words. So the writers of the New Testament took Pagan words and changed their definitions to describe Christian thoughts. So the Greek word for sin became wrong doing.

But there are two types of sin.....so to speak. The sin of the Old Testament was a transgression against Yahweh and it was unforgiveable. One sin and you were out. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Hebrews 10:4

But the blood of the Lamb of God took away the sins of the world. The sins that Yeshua took away were these Old Testament sins.
The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29

He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1st John 2:2

Yeshua as the perfect sacrifice took away the sins of the world. The New Testament still calls them sins but our sins are not transgressions against Yahweh, they are between us and Yeshua. And if we ask forgiveness He forgives us. Yahweh has no tolerance for sin, but when Yeshua passed on the cross the veil in the Temple was torn in two....meaning we are no longer separated from Yahweh. Yeshua perfected us in Yahweh's eyes. He cannot see our wrong doing. The white cloak of Grace.

but if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 1st John 1:7

 

[חוכמה]

Your interpretation of Jesus’ role is very novel to me, the cloak part. Do you mean that as a ‘cloak’ when a parent sees his child be naughty he will still love him? Or a cloack as in the parent doesn’t see it doing naughty things? Because one is not like the other.

This interpretation makes me understand more why exactly Jesus had to die, because aftear reading the NT it was still a guess for me how exactly that works. Ofcourse faith is more important than understanding. But it is nice to have a why. Thank you so much for your reply!

 

[Grailhunter]

Your interpretation of Jesus’ role is very novel to me, the cloak part. Do you mean that as a ‘cloak’ when a parent sees his child be naughty he will still love him? Or a cloack as in the parent doesn’t see it doing naughty things? Because one is not like the other.

This interpretation makes me understand more why exactly Jesus had to die, because aftear reading the NT it was still a guess for me how exactly that works. Ofcourse faith is more important than understanding. But it is nice to have a why. Thank you so much for your reply!

It is another aspect of Grace.
You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:48
For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified. Hebrews 10:14
Yeshua perfected us before Yahweh.
Yahweh has zero tolerance for sin. He has to separate Himself from sin. The Holy of Holies......
The New Covenant did not change Yahweh.
The white cloak is an illustration. Yahweh sees no sin, if He did He could not have personal relationship with us and evil does not reside in Heaven. Of course we are not perfect and under that white cloak there is sin.
I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 7:14
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 1st John 1:7
Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. Romans 5:9
For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. Hebrews 10:14

God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.....It was the only way to save us from Hell and make us eligible for Heaven. Yeshua literally opened the gates of Heaven to us. You would think that killing Yahweh's Son would bring about unimaginable wrath.
But by the rules of Heaven only a perfect sacrifice could forgive the sins of mankind. Yeshua was not only sacrificed, He offered Himself up as a sacrifice. A Father's love and a Son's love for us. At that point Yahweh gave all authority over us to Yeshua. He forgives our sins and in the end judges us.
And now He sits on a throne to the right of His father.
Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, Hebrew 8:1
Looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2
But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, Hebrews 10:12
So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Mark 16:19
These are just a few of the scriptures that say that Yeshua sits to right of Yahweh.

 

[GeneZ]

A professor at the University of Cambridge use to teach a course called “To understand Christianity, you must understand Judaism.”

I know I have blown people’s minds when I tell them that the Trinity is made up of three Gods, not one God. There is one Godhead with three full-fledged Gods that sit on three thrones in Heaven with Yeshua the Son of Yahweh sitting on the right of His Father. Well, here we go again.

It is true, to understand Christianity you must understand Judaism. This is or was a two week course, but I will try to shorten it….a lot.

First things first, we will start off with some Old Testament facts and some facts about Jewish beliefs.

The Jews do not believe in Hell or the Devil or that their reward is Heaven, because the Old Testament scriptures do not speak of such things. If you read words like Hell or Hades or the Devil in the Old Testament in your Bible, it is time to get a better Bible….That is for sure and certain.

The Jews believe a person’s rewards and punishments occur during their lifetime. Judaism is not very spiritual that is why scholars refer to Judaism as a “this world religion.” There are three circumstances that people may have been taken to Heaven, Enoch, Abraham, and Elijah.

In Judaism Elijah is senior to the Messiah, but both considered important prophets. Elijah was taken to Heaven in a chariot of fire. 2nd Kings 2:11

The Jews believe that Elijah would return in a chariot fire to introduce the Messiah to the Jews. The Jews would never believe that the Messiah would arrive in secret and the Old Testament does not define the Messiah as a God. They believed the Messiah would be human and a grown man when Elijah introduces him to the Jewish people. In fact the Jews during their revolts would consider some of the military leaders as possible Messiahs that Elijah would introduce.

The Jews believed and scriptures supported the belief that the Messiah would be a warlord king that would take out the Jewish oppressors with Yahweh’s help in what is referred to as “the great and terrible day of the Lord.” In the messianic age this Messiah would establish his kingdom that would last forever and put the world under his rule. The Mosaic Law would be the Law of the world and the Temple would be re-built of Gold and sacrifices would continue forever. The Temple described in Ezekiel chapters 40 thru 48. There is nothing in the Old Testament to suggest that the Messiah would be killed and return thousands of years later.

At no time do the Old Testament scriptures say that the Jews would be responsible for the Messiah’s death. They did not believe they would wait 700 years to kill their Messiah. Killing the Son of Yahweh! Max wrath, they would have ran for hills and would have had nothing to do with Judaism.

Now as we know, this did not happen, the terrible day of the Lord or the advent of Elijah return in a fiery chariot. Because they were still looking for him in New Testament. This was one of the reasons that the Jews did not believe Yeshua was the Messiah because Elijah did not introduce him. Some thought that it was John the Baptist or Yeshua. And as the scriptures say John the Baptist was not Elijah. John was more of a predecessor to Yeshua. So why didn’t it happen, what changed?

Why did the Messiah need to be a God?

Why was Hell created or when was it created?

Why did Mankind need to be saved?

In the Old Testament all souls went to Sheol….which had levels, good and bad? Which brings up other questions. In the New Testament the dead are said to be asleep and in the end will resurrect….does that mean the souls are in the grave? Not defined.

The upper level of Shoel was paradise and this is where Yeshua and the thief on the cross went when they passed. Yeshua went to Sheol to preach the Gospel there. No scripture suggests that Yeshua went to Heaven after He passed on the cross. In fact Yeshua told Mary the Magdaline ….Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father;….John 20:17

In the Old Testament the word salvation meant to save lives, in the New Testament Salvation was/is the saving of souls from Hell and the reward was Heaven.

No Salvation in the Old Testament because Yahweh had zero tolerance for sin. Which meant one sin and Salvation was not possible. No forgiveness just avoidance of the wrath of Yahweh through atonement by sacrifice. The same is true of the New Testament/New Covenant, Yahweh was not changed by the New Covenant. So how does forgiveness and Salvation work in the New Testament? One of the effects of Grace is that it provides a cloak of perfection for us. Yahweh does not see our sins. Yeshua’s perfect sacrifice removed us from the type of sin caused by breaking the Law. Our sins are covered by the blood of Yeshua provided by the love of the Sacred Heart of the Son of God. Our sins are between us and Yeshua and if we own up to our sins and ask forgiveness his love forgives our transgressions as long as we do not use Grace for a license to sin. Which means do not expect to get forgiveness for the same sin over and over again. You cannot play Christ for a fool.

So what changed that caused all this to happen? It is not written in the scriptures and apparently the Apostles did not know. So all we know is that something changed and it apparently happened between the Testaments. So do we just leave it at that? Or can we speculate. Speculation is good as long as it is just that and do not try to say it is fact. So here is the speculation…..

In the Old Testament Satan and the “sons of God were Cherubs and functioned as Watchers.” Watchers were overseers of righteousness and were of high rank. When Satan and the sons of God entered the Holy Court of Yahweh, He asked Satan what He had been doing and Satan answered that he had been roaming about the earth, going back and forth. Then Yahweh asked, From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it. And then Yahweh and Satan get into a discussion about Job’s righteousness. Now apparently Cherubs are capable of impregnating women?

We do not exactly know what caused Satan and the other angels to rise up against Yahweh but odds are it was about us….jealousy of us? I will speculate on this shortly.

We know that Satan lead a rebellion and the Archangel Micheal and his army cast a third of the Angels out of Heaven. But where did they go? To the lower levels of Sheol? Like I said, this is speculation.

From there Satan planned the take over of the physical world. By the time of Yeshua…Christ meaning Messiah, Satan had a strong hold on the world. So much so that Jerusalem and the surrounding area was surrounded by evil. If this area would have fallen to Satan, he would influence Mankind to be evil and take all the souls of Mankind to the lower levels of Sheol which was a horrible place of darkness and misery. And then take over the world as a god of this world.

Continued......

The Father is God.
Having no second nature in union.
The Farther is God (Deity) alone.

Jesus is God the Father, being expressed to men and angels as a man having access to fully knows God would. Deity + Human Soul.

Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? ​

Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9​

The Holy Spirit is God the Father being expressed to men and angels as an angel would who fully knows God. Deity + Angelic Spirit.

As here:

But the angel of Jehovah called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”​

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“Here I am,” he replied.​

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“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. ​

Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from ​

me your son, your only son.” Genesis 22:11-12​

Jesus came to earth as God, as a man would express God's nature.
But, before the church age dispensation existed?
The Angel of Jehovah was God's physical manifestation.
Who before man was created, originally appeared to the angels as the Angel of Jehovah.
The Angel of God appeared in the OT as an angel in union with God.
In parallel.. Just as Jesus appearing to humans was a human in union with God.

At first what I explained may seem a wee bit complex.

But what I was shown? And have tried to show here?
Makes it easier to better understand the function of the Trinity of God.

 

[Grailhunter]

Jesus is God the Father,

Yea it is common belief.....but not biblical.
Yahweh begot a Son with Miriam.
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.....
Over 50 time Yeshua says My Father and My Father in Heaven.
Yeshua sits on a throne to the right of Yahweh.
Yeshua did not do His will, but the will of His Father.
Yeshua calls Yahweh His God.
This is My Son of Whom I am well pleased....

 

[Jack]

PRAISE Jesus, the God of Israel!
Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

 

[Luther7]

The Father is God.
Having no second nature in union.
The Farther is God (Deity) alone.

Jesus is God the Father, being expressed to men and angels as a man having access to fully knows God would. Deity + Human Soul.

Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? ​

Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9​

The Holy Spirit is God the Father being expressed to men and angels as an angel would who fully knows God. Deity + Angelic Spirit.

As here:

But the angel of Jehovah called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”​

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“Here I am,” he replied.​

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“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. ​

Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from ​

me your son, your only son.” Genesis 22:11-12​

Jesus came to earth as God, as a man would express God's nature.
But, before the church age dispensation existed?
The Angel of Jehovah was God's physical manifestation.
Who before man was created, originally appeared to the angels as the Angel of Jehovah.
The Angel of God appeared in the OT as an angel in union with God.
In parallel.. Just as Jesus appearing to humans was a human in union with God.

At first what I explained may seem a wee bit complex.

But what I was shown? And have tried to show here?
Makes it easier to better understand the function of the Trinity of God.

What you are saying? To understand Christianity is to understand the whole Bible. The only thing that matters is the truth of God's Word.
I don't believe jews care much about Jesus Christ so I don't think they would really be the ones to listen to, quite frankly.

Instead of throwing whatever you threw against the wall to see if it would stick, try comparing scripture with scripture, Old and New Covenant/ Testament.

 

[Jack]

What you are saying? To understand Christianity is to understand the whole Bible. The only thing that matters is the truth of God's Word.
I don't believe jews care much about Jesus Christ so I don't think they would really be the ones to listen to, quite frankly.

You don't believe? lol You mean you don't want to believe!

Instead of throwing whatever you threw against the wall to see if it would stick, try comparing scripture with scripture, Old and New Covenant/ Testament.

Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." '

And He did!

19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

And He will!

 

[GeneZ]

Yea it is common belief.....but not biblical.
Yahweh begot a Son with Miriam.
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.....
Over 50 time Yeshua says My Father and My Father in Heaven.
Yeshua sits on a throne to the right of Yahweh.
Yeshua did not do His will, but the will of His Father.
Yeshua calls Yahweh His God.
This is My Son of Whom I am well pleased....

I hear Jehovah Witnesses refuse to defend their own nation by serving in the military?
Is that true?