God's will concerning the Palestinians

[lforrest]

While there is a double standard I will not judge the current leadership of Israel for any response to unprovoked attacks by Islamic militants.

 

[Anchorite]

God knows what sinful man will do. It's not a question of His foreknowledge, it's a BIBLICAL, MORAL question I raise. Since Jesus Christ does not teach murder is a good thing under any circumstance ( and like I already said civilians are INNOCENT), that nation in no way is blessed by God. In fact the opposite is true.

The only ones that bless Israel are those who do not follow the teachings of the Bible. Blinded and deceived by a false doctrine.

We can pray for God to bless Israel, even when Israel commits sins. We pray all Israel will accept Jesus as their Messiah.

We can also pray for the people of Gaza, who have historically been Philistines who opposed Israel and the one true God of Israel. We can pray that they come to salvation through the cross of Christ.

We can pray for peaceful relations between Gaza and Israel.


Psalm 128:5

The Lord shall bless thee out of Zion: and thou shalt see the good of Jerusalem all the days of thy life.

Psalm 129:5

Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.

Psalm 132:13

For the Lord hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.

Isaiah 2:3

And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Isaiah 12:6

Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

 

[Debp]

While there is a double standard I will not judge the current leadership of Israel for any response to unprovoked attacks by Islamic militants.

One Jewish couple was tortured for hours, then their baby burned to death before them in the oven before Hamas killed the couple. This video was found on a camera because Hamas was filming the tortures, kidnappings and hostages.

 

[stevesonthebay]

Though the conflict in Gaza in horrible and any war is a bad war. I dislike the hypocracy of people (activists) always fixating on Isreal. In this case the Isreal Palestinian conflict.

Whereas there are many, many conflicts happening that are just as bad if not much worse that everyone ignores.What happened to the protests for all these other inhumane acts.

I believe there is something else going on when it comes to Isreal. They are judged more severely or focused on more than any other people. Ironically if there was a people that deserved support it would be the Isrealis and Jews as they have been persecuted for millenia. Losing their land several times. No one ever mentions that.

But the extra hate for Isreal seems beyond what is just and more a deep seated spiritual hate. If the bible is correct then the nations surrounding Isreal were the ancient tribes and peoples like the Canaanites who hated the Jews. It does seems like its very tribal. In fact the whole world gone tribal.

 

[Jericho]

Having said that, Does Israel have God's blessing for murdering over 20,000 Palestinian children since October 7th, 2023?

And you know those numbers are accurate. How? You don't. There's been zero outside independent verification. Those numbers come from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is controlled by Hamas, and are parroted by the UN, which as always has had a bias against Israel. There's also no distinction between civilizations and combatants. Just because someone is under the age of 18 doesn't mean they can't be a combatant. Hamas has been known to recruit minors.

Hamas has a reason to inflate those numbers. They also have a reason to actually want civilian deaths. Ask yourself this simple question: Why would they attack Israel on October 7th, 2023, when they knew full well what Israel's response would be? The answer is, they want civilian deaths. You see, Israel's enemies know they can never defeat Israel militarily, but they can defeat Israel in a propaganda war. This is what this has been all about, and they know Westerns like yourself will eat it up.

 

[Debp]

Just because someone is under the age of 18 doesn't mean they can't be a combatant. Hamas has been known to recruit minors.

@Luther7 Also Hamas uses civilians including children as human shields. Hamas hides under places like hospitals, etc.

And Palestinian mothers said they want their children to become martyrs.

Israel dropped leaflets, sent phone calls, texts, in order to warn the civilian population to leave the areas before an attack.

Also Hamas controlled all of the journalism (mostly their own journalists/photographers). Everything had to be run by Hamas before publishing.

 

[Luther7]

I would be interested to see your understanding of the Scripture I posted from Romans chapter 13.

How do you think Israel should have responded to the Oct 7th massacre?

Let's go back a few steps. Israel allowed it to happen. It's becoming more and more apparent with the latest investigations and testimony from Israeli officials. Israel's border defence system is the most superior in all the world. There is no possibility of motorcycles and hang gliders breaking through without being completely destroyed.

THEY KNEW ABOUT IT WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES WERE WARNING THEM THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WHEN IT HAPPENED THEY STOOD DOWN FOR OVER SIX HOURS AND DID NOTHING. Those are facts.

So why did they allow Hamas " through the front door?"
OBVIOUSLY so they can start the final war ( in the post 9/11 list of nations) with Iran to have total military control over the middle East. Iran is the only country standing in their way. Everyone else is neutralized.
Theoretically this could then allow them to sacrifice the red heifers on the temple Mount without retaliation from the Muslim world.

 

[Luther7]

And you know those numbers are accurate. How? You don't. There's been zero outside independent verification. Those numbers come from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is controlled by Hamas, and are parroted by the UN, which as always has had a bias against Israel. There's also no distinction between civilizations and combatants. Just because someone is under the age of 18 doesn't mean they can't be a combatant. Hamas has been known to recruit minors.

Hamas has a reason to inflate those numbers. They also have a reason to actually want civilian deaths. Ask yourself this simple question: Why would they attack Israel on October 7th, 2023, when they knew full well what Israel's response would be? The answer is, they want civilian deaths. You see, Israel's enemies know they can never defeat Israel militarily, but they can defeat Israel in a propaganda war. This is what this has been all about, and they know Westerns like yourself will eat it up.

Your question:
Ask yourself this simple question: Why would they attack Israel on October 7th, 2023, when they knew full well what Israel's response would be?
My response:
1) Israel funds Hamas to the tune of 30 million dollars a month.
2) They allowed Hamas to attack. They knew about it.
3) The response is what they intended on with their false flag event: total military control of the Middle East. No to mention destroying as much of " AMALEK" as possible in the process.

 

[Luther7]

I can see by the responses that it is a hard thing to say that God would bless the current state of Israel for their outright murders of innocent civilians. When you cannot give a simple yes or no, it says a lot about how you've been conditioned to think about the Palestinians ( or any nation for that matter that would oppose "chosen" Israel).
They are no lesser humans than we are. The jewish religion teaches them it is permissable to wipe them out, BUT NOT GOD. We serve a God of peace and good will towards all men. We do not ethnically cleanse our neighbors. We do not take target practice on thousands of children. God would never bless this...NEVER. And if God is not blessing this, how in the world do you think you will be blessed by supporting it?

Below is an excerpt from JD Hall from his show Incite to Incite: "How American Dispensationalism led to October 7th, and why it's so dangerous"

"So what was Hamas’ reason, in their own words, for the attack? That question alone is enough to make a great many people angry. Incarnate evil doesn’t have logic. “Insane” isn’t even capable of logic. Once you’re convinced that “evil” explains it, you stop looking for reasons, and you start looking for napalm. This doesn’t mean that Hamas isn’t evil, of course. But it does mean that even insane, evil people have their reasons. What those reasons are should at least be heard out by serious people who want to avoid it repeating in the future. This principle is why the characterization of Muslims as ontologically evil concerns me. If Muslims are made evil by their religion, or if they are made evil by their culture, or if they are made evil by their environment, these are all things that can be reasoned with, evangelized, sanctified, or negotiated. But if they are ontologically evil because God made them that way, then the most rational solution is to kill every last one of them, and why they’re doing what they’re doing is irrelevant. And that’s what the Israel lobby wants us to believe, despite it being against our religion to believe it."

 

[amigo de christo]

Asking if the war in Gaza is ordained by God is like asking if Europeans were ordained by God to take over North America.

Wars and occupations of land are done by men with human motivations.

Since we cannot know the mind of God regarding international affairs, it is best to remain silent on the subject.

In Bible times, Gaza was a frequent snare to Israel.

The Bible associates Gaza mainly with the Philistines. God had given the city to Judah, but the Israelites had failed to obey God in driving out the former occupants of Canaan (Numbers 33:51–53). Because of that disobedience, the Philistines and the city of Gaza remained a thorn in Israel’s side for centuries (see Judges 2:3).

By the time of Samson’s judgeship, the Philistines were living in and controlling Gaza (Judges 16:1).

When Samson visited Gaza, the people there planned to kill him, but he escaped and carried off the city gates (Judges 16:1–3). After Delilah tricked Samson into divulging the secret of his strength, the Philistines captured him and took him to a prison in Gaza (Judges 16:21).

Later, Samson regained his strength from the Lord and pushed down the pillars of Dagon’s temple, destroying the edifice and killing many Philistines in the process (Judges 16:23–30).

The Philistines continued to control Gaza during the time of Samuel (see 1 Samuel 6:17). King Hezekiah won great victories over the Philistines, “as far as Gaza and its territory,” but did not conquer Gaza itself (2 Kings 18:8).

Gaza was a city associated with judgment. Jeremiah, Amos, Zephaniah, and Zechariah all prophesied judgment on Gaza because of the sin of the Philistines. Amos 1:6–7 records God’s judgment on Gaza: “For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom. So I will send a fire upon the wall of Gaza, and it shall devour her strongholds” (ESV).

Likewise, Jeremiah, Zephaniah, and Zechariah prophesied of Gaza’s destruction (Jeremiah 25:17–20; Zephaniah 2:4; Zechariah 9:5). King Sargon of Assyria conquered Gaza and probably destroyed it in 720 BC. Later, Alexander the Great destroyed the city again in 332 BC, after a lengthy battle. During the Maccabean period, Jonathan subjugated Gaza to Israel.

rest assured that any peace plan of man will always contradict the peace plan OF GOD .
How often have and has a man or etc come claiming we shall have peace and this is the way to attain peace
ONLY To watch much blood follow .
THis entire ecumeincal intefaith of anti christ will do the same . And it has INDEED denied the peace plan of GOD .
FOR BY FAITH IN JESUS one is reconciled to GOD and has PEACE with GOD . AND IT SURE DID DENY THIS
as it sold a lie to all religoins and christendom saying ALL religoins serve the same GOD . DENIED THE VERY PEACE of GOD .
Now only an anti christ would do that , And by peace DESTROY many .

 

[Jericho]

1) Israel funds Hamas to the tune of 30 million dollars a month.
2) They allowed Hamas to attack. They knew about it.
3) The response is what they intended on with their false flag event: total military control of the Middle East. No to mention destroying as much of " AMALEK" as possible in the process.

1) Israel did not directly fund Hamas. The 30 million you reference is Qatari money that Israel allowed into Gaza for salaries, fuel, humanitarian assistance, etc., not to fund Hamas. Hamas could have misused that money, but it's inaccurate to say Israel funded Hamas. If you want to know who directly funds Hamas, that would be Iran.

2) That is pure conjecture. There is no credible evidence that Israel intentionally allowed it. At worst, it was an intelligence/leadership failure, but that's a big difference from inferring that Israel knowingly allowed it to happen. Not everything that happens is a conspiracy.

3) There's no credible evidence that Israel's goal is to militarily control the entire Middle East. Not to mention that it would be impossible for one tiny country to do so.

4) Who is Amalek? I'm guessing you're referencing what Netanyahu said after the October 7th attack. If you actually paid attention, he was quoting Deuteronomy 25:17–19, remembering what Amalek did to Israel. He wasn't quoting or evoking 1 Samuel 15:1-3, which specifically talks about destroying Amalek. So, the inference that Netanyahu was hinting at destroying Gaza or the Palestinians is inaccurate.

 

[Marvelloustime]

rest assured that any peace plan of man will always contradict the peace plan OF GOD .
How often have and has a man or etc come claiming we shall have peace and this is the way to attain peace
ONLY To watch much blood follow .
THis entire ecumeincal intefaith of anti christ will do the same . And it has INDEED denied the peace plan of GOD .
FOR BY FAITH IN JESUS one is reconciled to GOD and has PEACE with GOD . AND IT SURE DID DENY THIS
as it sold a lie to all religoins and christendom saying ALL religoins serve the same GOD . DENIED THE VERY PEACE of GOD .
Now only an anti christ would do that , And by peace DESTROY many .

@amigo de christo