AI Book Report/Interview: St. John's Mystery (An End Times study for sure!)

[ScottA]

Truth is in the Bible.
Not in the 1000's of books about God out there.
The Bible is all you need about truth.

I agree, and yet within the Bible it is written that certain things were sealed and only to be revealed just before the end.

As one who speaks well of the Bible, what do the scriptures say--who will that which was sealed be revealed?

 

[JimKnox]

You still don't get it. I have added nothing new.

But listen to you! Do you not think many have thought those same "Nothing in that passage says..." thoughts and made similar judgements at every turn as every "line upon line" was revealed or fulfilled? Of course many have, and now it is you kicking against the goads, rejecting and making accusations. Nothing new indeed!

As for all food or meat...you didn't list everything that was to come and was not to be until just before the end. Meaning, you are the one demanding your own private revelation, as if it had already occurred before the times were fulfilled. That's what every wayward son has done down through all the ages. Nothing new indeed!

So, no, you have omitted the part appointed to us--therefore I will not answer you...until you say, Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!

What a wacked out string of nonsense words.

 

[JimKnox]

So...is everyone false? Is no one sent by God? Has God who never changes changed since the canon was declared (for the umpteenth time)?

You show your lack of knowledge.

Yes. Everyone who speaks like Joe Smith is false.
If the shoe fits...

 

[Triumph1300]

As one who speaks well of the Bible, what do the scriptures say--who will that which was sealed be revealed?

What do you mean by:

"who will that which was sealed be revealed?
??

 

[ScottA]

What do you mean by:

"who will that which was sealed be revealed?
??

God never changes and has an established method of delivering each thing He reveals. So that part of the scriptures that was sealed until close to the end, who do the scriptures say that God will send--what are they called, shoemakers, bakers--what are they called...and will He send them or not? How was that to occur? What do the scriptures say?

Anybody?

 

[marks]

-therefore I will not answer you...until you say, Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!

Dangerous waters, you who are but a man.

 

[ScottA]

Dangerous waters, you who are but a man.

Has no one here read the Prophets, or of Paul ("a man") saying, "for me, to live is Christ?!" How is it that you, if you do not know the scriptures, consider yourself even qualified to comment?

Mark...I thought I knew you!

 

[bdavidc]

Is the "Canon" of God or of men?

But you are wrong--falsely accusing, because the book in the OP is not extrabiblical, adding or taking away nothing, but fulfilling what is written.

The canon is of God in its authority, not of men. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16). Men did not make Scripture authoritative. They recognized the writings God had already given.

Your false book is extrabiblical and from God. That simply means it is outside the Bible and just a figment of your imagination. Calling it a “fulfillment” of Scripture does not change that. The real issue is your claim that your book fulfills what God wrote. Where does Scripture identify your book as that fulfillment? It does not.

You keep treating your own claim as proof of your claim. That is not biblical interpretation. “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). You have been asked to prove from Scripture that your book fulfills Revelation 10, and you have not done it.

So stop accusing others falsely for refusing to accept your unsupported claim. Your book does not become a fulfillment of prophecy because ScottA says it is. If God’s Word does not establish it, then you have no biblical authority to teach it as fact.

 

[bdavidc]

You still don't get it. I have added nothing new.

But listen to you! Do you not think many have thought those same "Nothing in that passage says..." thoughts and made similar judgements at every turn as every "line upon line" was revealed or fulfilled? Of course many have, and now it is you kicking against the goads, rejecting and making accusations. Nothing new indeed!

As for all food or meat...you didn't list everything that was to come and was not to be until just before the end. Meaning, you are the one demanding your own private revelation, as if it had already occurred before the times were fulfilled. That's what every wayward son has done down through all the ages. Nothing new indeed!

So, no, you have omitted the part appointed to us--therefore I will not answer you...until you say, Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!

Oh, I get it all right; you are just another false teacher the Bible talks about. This response makes the problem worse. You are now taking words that belong to Christ and applying them to yourself. Acts 9 was Jesus confronting Saul because Saul was persecuting Christ. Rejecting your false interpretation is not “kicking against the goads” against Jesus.

Then you say you will not answer until I say, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” Matthew 23:39 is about Jesus Christ. You have no biblical right to take words concerning Christ and make saying them a condition for getting an answer from you. Paul said, “For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord” (2 Corinthians 4:5). You are doing the opposite when you insert yourself into passages that point to Him.

You say I have omitted “the part appointed to us.” Then show it from Scripture. Chapter and verse. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20). Refusing to show it and then accusing me of resisting God does not prove your claim.

This is false teaching and dangerous presumption. Stop putting yourself into Christ’s words. Either prove what you are claiming from Scripture or admit Scripture does not say it.

 

[bdavidc]

So...is everyone false? Is no one sent by God? Has God who never changes changed since the canon was declared (for the umpteenth time)?

You show your lack of knowledge.

No. “Is everyone false?” is a diversion. You and Joseph Smith, for sure, are. Nobody said God no longer sends pastors, teachers, evangelists, or faithful servants. The issue is whether God is still giving men new revelation and whether your book is a fulfillment of prophecy. Those are completely different claims.

And “God never changes” does not prove your argument. Hebrews 1:1-2 says God, who formerly spoke “at sundry times and in divers manners” by the prophets, “hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.” God did not change. The manner in which He revealed His truth did.

Jude says “the faith” was “once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 3). Paul says the inspired Scriptures are able to make the man of God “perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

So stop using the immutability of God as an excuse for your claim to continuing revelation. God still sends men to preach His Word. Paul told Timothy, “Preach the word” (2 Timothy 4:2). He did not tell him to invent new revelation, announce himself as the fulfillment of prophecy, or demand that people accept a book God never named.

Your argument is not evidence of Jim’s “lack of knowledge.” It is evidence of your lack of knowledge. It is another attempt to avoid the actual issue. Being sent by God to teach what He has already revealed is biblical. Claiming God has privately revealed that your own book fulfills prophecy is another matter entirely. Wake up before it is too late.

 

[bdavidc]

How many times has that same line come throughout the ages from those who themselves lacked understanding, when each time there were two sides and a choice to be made? Do you not understand that you have aligned yourself with "the hypocrites" and testify against yourself?

ScottA, enough. You were given a biblical rebuke, and instead of answering it from Scripture you called the man a hypocrite and claimed he lacks understanding. That does not answer one verse that has been put before you.

Paul did not play games with men like you who corrupted the truth. He asked, “wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” (Acts 13:10). That question is very appropriate here.

You keep acting as though opposition to ScottA is opposition to God. It is not. You are one of the reasons teaching must be tested. When Scripture is brought against your claims, your response is repeatedly accusation, evasion, and self-exaltation instead of submission to the text.

Titus says, “rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith” (Titus 1:13). So here is the sharp rebuke: stop twisting Scripture and stop attacking people because they refuse to accept your claims as though they came with God’s authority.

You are not proving that everyone else is blind. You are proving that you refuse correction.

False teaching is serious, and God’s warning is not mild: “there shall be false teachers among you,” and concerning them Peter says, “whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not” (2 Peter 2:1, 3).

You need to repent, ScottA. Stop defending yourself and start submitting your teaching to the Word of God.

 

[bdavidc]

God never changes and has an established method of delivering each thing He reveals. So that part of the scriptures that was sealed until close to the end, who do the scriptures say that God will send--what are they called, shoemakers, bakers--what are they called...and will He send them or not? How was that to occur? What do the scriptures say?

Anybody?

Daniel was told, “shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4), and again, “the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end” (Daniel 12:9). Now show us where Daniel says God will send some future man with a private revelation and a book to unseal it. It does not.

You are trying to smuggle “prophets” into the passage and then use that to validate yourself. That conclusion is not in the text.

And Revelation makes your argument worse, not better. John was specifically told, “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand” (Revelation 22:10). The revelation was written down and given to the churches. Scripture does not tell Christians to wait centuries for ScottA to arrive and explain what God supposedly withheld.

So stop asking leading questions like “shoemakers, bakers, what are they called?” Say plainly what you are claiming and prove it from Scripture.

If you are claiming that God promised to send post-apostolic prophets to reveal previously sealed doctrine near the end, give the passage that actually says that. Not a verse saying God spoke through prophets in the past. Not a verse saying something was sealed. Show the verse connecting those two claims.

You cannot, because Scripture does not make that connection. You do.

That is the problem.

 

[ScottA]

The canon is of God in its authority, not of men. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16). Men did not make Scripture authoritative. They recognized the writings God had already given.

Your false book is extrabiblical and from God. That simply means it is outside the Bible and just a figment of your imagination. Calling it a “fulfillment” of Scripture does not change that. The real issue is your claim that your book fulfills what God wrote. Where does Scripture identify your book as that fulfillment? It does not.

You keep treating your own claim as proof of your claim. That is not biblical interpretation. “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). You have been asked to prove from Scripture that your book fulfills Revelation 10, and you have not done it.

So stop accusing others falsely for refusing to accept your unsupported claim. Your book does not become a fulfillment of prophecy because ScottA says it is. If God’s Word does not establish it, then you have no biblical authority to teach it as fact.

I have explained plenty, more than you deserve.

But your whole position hangs one word: "prove"--which I gave you, though you did not perceive it. And apparently it is also apparent that you do not know that "prove" is also defined as "APprove." Which leaves you with nothing but your prejudice.

 

[ScottA]

Oh, I get it all right; you are just another false teacher the Bible talks about. This response makes the problem worse. You are now taking words that belong to Christ and applying them to yourself. Acts 9 was Jesus confronting Saul because Saul was persecuting Christ. Rejecting your false interpretation is not “kicking against the goads” against Jesus.

Then you say you will not answer until I say, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” Matthew 23:39 is about Jesus Christ. You have no biblical right to take words concerning Christ and make saying them a condition for getting an answer from you. Paul said, “For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord” (2 Corinthians 4:5). You are doing the opposite when you insert yourself into passages that point to Him.

You say I have omitted “the part appointed to us.” Then show it from Scripture. Chapter and verse. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20). Refusing to show it and then accusing me of resisting God does not prove your claim.

This is false teaching and dangerous presumption. Stop putting yourself into Christ’s words. Either prove what you are claiming from Scripture or admit Scripture does not say it.

Or...if I do have biblical right--and I do--you are in big trouble, and it gets worse with every post. Because you are speaking against what Jesus arranged for our time.

 

[ScottA]

No. “Is everyone false?” is a diversion. You and Joseph Smith, for sure, are. Nobody said God no longer sends pastors, teachers, evangelists, or faithful servants. The issue is whether God is still giving men new revelation and whether your book is a fulfillment of prophecy. Those are completely different claims.

And “God never changes” does not prove your argument. Hebrews 1:1-2 says God, who formerly spoke “at sundry times and in divers manners” by the prophets, “hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.” God did not change. The manner in which He revealed His truth did.

Jude says “the faith” was “once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 3). Paul says the inspired Scriptures are able to make the man of God “perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

So stop using the immutability of God as an excuse for your claim to continuing revelation. God still sends men to preach His Word. Paul told Timothy, “Preach the word” (2 Timothy 4:2). He did not tell him to invent new revelation, announce himself as the fulfillment of prophecy, or demand that people accept a book God never named.

Your argument is not evidence of Jim’s “lack of knowledge.” It is evidence of your lack of knowledge. It is another attempt to avoid the actual issue. Being sent by God to teach what He has already revealed is biblical. Claiming God has privately revealed that your own book fulfills prophecy is another matter entirely. Wake up before it is too late.

Not that language takes precedence (because it doesn't) but even your language skills are failing you. As a result you are simply not understanding what you are reading.

And then you start accusing, showing your true self. Which I will rightly not continue responding to forever.

 

[ScottA]

ScottA, enough. You were given a biblical rebuke, and instead of answering it from Scripture you called the man a hypocrite and claimed he lacks understanding. That does not answer one verse that has been put before you.

Paul did not play games with men like you who corrupted the truth. He asked, “wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” (Acts 13:10). That question is very appropriate here.

You keep acting as though opposition to ScottA is opposition to God. It is not. You are one of the reasons teaching must be tested. When Scripture is brought against your claims, your response is repeatedly accusation, evasion, and self-exaltation instead of submission to the text.

Titus says, “rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith” (Titus 1:13). So here is the sharp rebuke: stop twisting Scripture and stop attacking people because they refuse to accept your claims as though they came with God’s authority.

You are not proving that everyone else is blind. You are proving that you refuse correction.

False teaching is serious, and God’s warning is not mild: “there shall be false teachers among you,” and concerning them Peter says, “whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not” (2 Peter 2:1, 3).

You need to repent, ScottA. Stop defending yourself and start submitting your teaching to the Word of God.

It is not for you to say.

And no, Paul did not tolerate as I have tolerated you, though he too took a beating by those who knew not what the do, as you bow dew. Which is not "biblical rebuke" but the spirit of anti-Christ.

And no, Peter did not say that all prophets are false. You have grossly twisted of the scriptures.

Daniel was told, “shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4), and again, “the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end” (Daniel 12:9). Now show us where Daniel says God will send some future man with a private revelation and a book to unseal it. It does not.

You are trying to smuggle “prophets” into the passage and then use that to validate yourself. That conclusion is not in the text.

And Revelation makes your argument worse, not better. John was specifically told, “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand” (Revelation 22:10). The revelation was written down and given to the churches. Scripture does not tell Christians to wait centuries for ScottA to arrive and explain what God supposedly withheld.

So stop asking leading questions like “shoemakers, bakers, what are they called?” Say plainly what you are claiming and prove it from Scripture.

If you are claiming that God promised to send post-apostolic prophets to reveal previously sealed doctrine near the end, give the passage that actually says that. Not a verse saying God spoke through prophets in the past. Not a verse saying something was sealed. Show the verse connecting those two claims.

You cannot, because Scripture does not make that connection. You do.

That is the problem.

As I said, I have shown you plenty, and could show you more. But this has been to reveal you, and so you are. Therefore, since you demand but deny, showing that you will not hear--neither will I tell you.

 

[ScottA]

ScottA, enough. You were given a biblical rebuke, and instead of answering it from Scripture you called the man a hypocrite and claimed he lacks understanding. That does not answer one verse that has been put before you.

Paul did not play games with men like you who corrupted the truth. He asked, “wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” (Acts 13:10). That question is very appropriate here.

You keep acting as though opposition to ScottA is opposition to God. It is not. You are one of the reasons teaching must be tested. When Scripture is brought against your claims, your response is repeatedly accusation, evasion, and self-exaltation instead of submission to the text.

Titus says, “rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith” (Titus 1:13). So here is the sharp rebuke: stop twisting Scripture and stop attacking people because they refuse to accept your claims as though they came with God’s authority.

You are not proving that everyone else is blind. You are proving that you refuse correction.

False teaching is serious, and God’s warning is not mild: “there shall be false teachers among you,” and concerning them Peter says, “whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not” (2 Peter 2:1, 3).

You need to repent, ScottA. Stop defending yourself and start submitting your teaching to the Word of God.

It is not for you to say.

And no, Paul did not tolerate as I have tolerated you, though he too took a beating by those who knew not what the do, as yo bow dew. Which is not "biblical rebuke" but the spirit of anti-Christ.

And no, Peter did not say that all prophets are false. You have grossly twisted of the scriptures.

 

[JimKnox]

How many times has that same line come throughout the ages from those who themselves lacked understanding, when each time there were two sides and a choice to be made? Do you not understand that you have aligned yourself with "the hypocrites" and testify against yourself?

Deflection will do you no good at the JSOC.

 

[JimKnox]

Daniel was told, “shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end” (Daniel 12:4), and again, “the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end” (Daniel 12:9). Now show us where Daniel says God will send some future man with a private revelation and a book to unseal it. It does not.

You are trying to smuggle “prophets” into the passage and then use that to validate yourself. That conclusion is not in the text.

And Revelation makes your argument worse, not better. John was specifically told, “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand” (Revelation 22:10). The revelation was written down and given to the churches. Scripture does not tell Christians to wait centuries for ScottA to arrive and explain what God supposedly withheld.

So stop asking leading questions like “shoemakers, bakers, what are they called?” Say plainly what you are claiming and prove it from Scripture.

If you are claiming that God promised to send post-apostolic prophets to reveal previously sealed doctrine near the end, give the passage that actually says that. Not a verse saying God spoke through prophets in the past. Not a verse saying something was sealed. Show the verse connecting those two claims.

You cannot, because Scripture does not make that connection. You do.

That is the problem.

Brother; you have far FAR more patience with wolves in sheep's clothing than I.
Well done.
However, a man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition, reject. (Paraphrased)
He will not hear you because he cannot.

 

[ScottA]

Deflection will do you no good at the JSOC.

Neither will your not correctly discerning the times and the unexpected, like those who killed the prophets, and the Priests and Pharisees who did the same with Christ and the apostles. Only this time its worse for you than for them, because you should have learned from their mistakes.