(The Beast) & (The Two Witnesses) Will Be On This Earth Together For 3.5 Years (Then Cometh The End)

[ewq1938]

Your Claim Is "False", Not To Be Taken Seriously

You aren't addressing the info posted that prove you wrong about the rod of iron rule. You are just stubbornly reasserting your faulty beliefs and ignoring all else including the definition of rule which is peaceful not violent. Who shouldn't be taken seriously?


Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev_2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.


RULE

G4165
poimaino
poy-mah'ee-no
From G4166; to tend as a shepherd (or figuratively superviser): - feed (cattle), rule.
Total KJV occurrences: 11

G4165
poimaino
Thayer Definition:
1) to feed, to tend a flock, keep sheep
1a) to rule, govern
1a1) of rulers
1a2) to furnish pasture for food
1a3) to nourish
1a4) to cherish one’s body, to serve the body
1a5) to supply the requisites for the soul’s need
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G4166
Citing in TDNT: 6:485, 901

There is nothing violent about poimaino.

 

[Truth7t7]

You aren't addressing the info posted that prove you wrong about the rod of iron rule. You are just stubbornly reasserting your faulty beliefs and ignoring all else including the definition of rule which is peaceful not violent. Who shouldn't be taken seriously?

You're living in a fairy tale dream, the "rod of Iron" is used to tread the winepress, firceness, and "Wrath" of God almighty!

Do you really believe the forum readers are oblivious to this "Fact" you're not to be taken seriously "The Truth"!

Stop the "False Teaching"!

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

[ewq1938]

You're living in a fairy tale dream, the rod of Iron is used to tread the winepress, firceness, and "Wrath" of God almighty!

Stop the "False Teaching"!

You are ignoring what RULE means in the Greek and the fact it is in the future tense so that peaceful rule you deny happens after Armageddon according to the text. You need to take your own advice on stopping the false teaching.

Ruling with a rod of iron is also about caring for the people:

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev_2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.


RULE

G4165
poimaino
poy-mah'ee-no
From G4166; to tend as a shepherd (or figuratively superviser): - feed (cattle), rule.
Total KJV occurrences: 11

G4165
poimaino
Thayer Definition:
1) to feed, to tend a flock, keep sheep
1a) to rule, govern
1a1) of rulers
1a2) to furnish pasture for food
1a3) to nourish
1a4) to cherish one’s body, to serve the body
1a5) to supply the requisites for the soul’s need
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G4166
Citing in TDNT: 6:485, 901

There is nothing violent about poimaino.

 

[William Barton]

Did you add Revelation 11:12 after I responded?

The rapture is mentioned five times in the New Testament:
John 14:2-3
1Corinthians 15:51-53
1Thessalonian 4:15-17
Revelation 11:12
Revelation 14:16

 

[William Barton]

You're living in a fairy tale dream, the "rod of Iron" is used to tread the winepress, firceness, and "Wrath" of God almighty!

Do you really believe the forum readers are oblivious to this "Fact" you're not to be taken seriously "The Truth"!

Stop the "False Teaching"!

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The sharp sword was metal: iron or steel or bronze.

The wine press was a wooden box, wherein grapes were squished with bare feet to extract the juice.

The rod of iron (usually wood) was used as a weapon.

 

[William Barton]

Shepherd (noun) = ποιμην
Shepherd (verb) = ποιμαινω

 

[William Barton]

The wine press was a large box in which grapes were squashed by *feet* (not by an iron rod).

"I have *trodden* the wine press alone;
from the nations no one was with me." (Isaiah 63:3)

 

[William Barton]

The U.S. did something similar to the rapture before dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima and on Nagasaki. They dropped leaflets warning civilians to GET OUT.

 

[amigo de christo]

"Whore of Babylon" was commonly thought to be Rome, or in modern times thought to be the Catholic Church.

I would rather say "whore of Babylon" refers to the rebuilt city of Babylon. It was persued by Saddam Hussein, until U.S. forces killed him, put him in a sack, and threw him overboard the ship, after receiving last rites by a Muslim Cleric. See Revelation chapter 18.

The whore of babylon do not refer to the rebuilt city of babylone . cant be . WHO and where does she sit .
It aint over natural babylone . ITS where our LORD and savoir JESUS was crucified .
AND HOW this inclusvie ecumenical whore has poured out her all inclusive intefaith cup of fornication .
SHE has control and influence over THE RCC and over almost all of prostantville .
WHY she even now has control over the false key leaders of those false religoins .
AND she has cried it be the TIME FOR LOVE , LOVE LOVE and she now cries this be the path to peace n safety .
AND BY MEANS of her anti christ satan and beast serving interreligious dialgoue
SHE HAS LIED to all the false religoins and christendom and sold the idea that ALL religoins serve the one true GOD
FLAT OUT DENYING the dire need to repent and beleive on JESUs . And yet her many co workers
THINKS THIS to be the way to peace n safety .
WON TBE peace n safety for them . BUT ONLY SUDDEN DESTRUcTION upon all of them who joined hands with her
WE ARE ONE message , her love of a harlot , her abomination and her lie .

 

[William Barton]

amigo de Christo ("friend of Christ") noted:
<whore of Babylon...where our LORD and savior was crucified>

IMO:
1. Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem, far away from Babylon.
2. The Pope is not the anti-Christ.
3. 1Peter 5:13 refers to Rome (seven-hills city) as "Babylon."

 

[amigo de christo]

amigo de Christo ("friend of Christ") noted:
<whore of Babylon...where our LORD and savior was crucified>

IMO:
1. Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem, far away from Babylon.
2. The Pope is not the anti-Christ.
3. 1Peter 5:13 refers to Rome (seven-hills city) as "Babylon."

lets correct this just a wee bit my friend . The pope is AN anti christ. And believe me we have us man y anti christs
in these late and last hours on earth . and yes many of them are even cloaked in wool too .
They all do the one work of the harlot and her father the devil .
This entity has grown massive . Now you are correct about JESUS being crucified outside of Jerusalem that great city .
And she is back again too . All them key leaders in all them religoins
have joined in with her as well .
this entity in large was and is all over the RCC , but its all over much much more my friend .
And now in these late , last and final hours upon earth
The harlots religoin will be KEY centered in JERSUALEM .
ITs all coming to a peak my friend .
So let me sum it up in short .
ALL connected too t his ecumeincal inclusive interfaith , this inclusive judge not lovey do stuff
THEY have zero idea what spirit this is truly of my friend .
A delusion has been DUMPED and it has b een unleashed and it will gather
the false relgions , the deceived of christendom , the nations and the world
as one mind , one heart , one plan and all will believe its peace be of GOD . OH but it is of satan
it is of this harlot , it is of anti christ . And massive numbers in massive amounts of even christendom
HAVE ZERO idea it has infil trated them and will lead them to the lie , the lie that more and more are already
believing and soon ALL not in the lambs book of life WILL beleive and be as one .
IT WILL RAGE WAR against the few true who did not conform .. its all gonna peak my friend .

 

[William Barton]

Two witnesses:
o. Enoch (Genesis 5:24)
o. Elijah (2Kings 2:11)
Both were taken to heaven, never having died.

 

[William Barton]

"Anti-Christ" has the etymology:
o. "anti" = "in place of"
o. "Christ" = Jesus

The Pope never claimed to take the place of Jesus.

 

[amigo de christo]

"Anti-Christ" has the etymology:
o. "anti" = "in place of"
o. "Christ" = Jesus

The Pope never claimed to take the place of Jesus.

When one tells all the false religions as well as christendom
that all serve the same GOD , thus making repentance and faith in JESUS void ,
THAT BE THE WORK an WORKING of an anti christ .
Cause all them false religions DO call GOD a liar , they do reject HIS CHRIST .
HE who denies JESUS is THE CHRIST , HE is a liar , HE is anti christ .
The problem is many do not realize an anti christ can come claoked in wool as though he is of us
and yet is only there to implant the LIE upon us . THE LIE that says IT was NOT necessary
to BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST . and that my near and dear friend is the work and working OF an anti christ .
And many in wool now prepare this people to the lie . they have made v oid FAITH IN CHRIST
and now run to the table of anti christ doing its goal for peace .
NOW as hard as this might seem to beleive to some , JESUS NEVER CAME TO BRING peace on earth .
AND THE PEACE of GOD would not DENY HIS SON . FOR by faith in CHRIST
is one reconciled to GOD and has PEACE with GOD .
But their peace plan and its interreligious dialogue has done just that .
NOW JESUS did not come to bring peace on earth .
BUT SOMEONE and something else SURE DOES . and i can see its anti christ message all over
this ecumiencal intefaith dialouge . Not looking good at all my friend .

 

[Marvelloustime]

When one tells all the false religions as well as christendom
that all serve the same GOD , thus making repentance and faith in JESUS void ,
THAT BE THE WORK an WORKING of an anti christ .
Cause all them false religions DO call GOD a liar , they do reject HIS CHRIST .
HE who denies JESUS is THE CHRIST , HE is a liar , HE is anti christ .
The problem is many do not realize an anti christ can come claoked in wool as though he is of us
and yet is only there to implant the LIE upon us . THE LIE that says IT was NOT necessary
to BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST . and that my near and dear friend is the work and working OF an anti christ .
And many in wool now prepare this people to the lie . they have made v oid FAITH IN CHRIST
and now run to the table of anti christ doing its goal for peace .
NOW as hard as this might seem to beleive to some , JESUS NEVER CAME TO BRING peace on earth .
AND THE PEACE of GOD would not DENY HIS SON . FOR by faith in CHRIST
is one reconciled to GOD and has PEACE with GOD .
But their peace plan and its interreligious dialogue has done just that .
NOW JESUS did not come to bring peace on earth .
BUT SOMEONE and something else SURE DOES . and i can see its anti christ message all over
this ecumiencal intefaith dialouge . Not looking good at all my friend .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Two witnesses:
o. Enoch (Genesis 5:24)
o. Elijah (2Kings 2:11)
Both were taken to heaven, never having died.

this is speculation of course. Now its true that both enoch and elijah were taken of GOD ,
this does not mean its those two .
What we do know is , or what we should know is
Anyone who even t ries to imply or say that it was not necessary to have had to BELIEVE ON JESUS
IS indeed a liar and an anti christ . EVEN if they try and claim they are of us .
The FATHER testified ON THE SON , THE SPIRIT testifies on the SON
the apostels whose faith was in JESUS and thus had the SPIRIT , they testified on the SON .
BUT today i aint seeing this from this all inclusive ecumenical crowd .
NO sir , they are testifying on a lie . On a really big broad inclusive and wide path to GOD .
One that has made GOD the ministir of sins and UNBELEIF . And THAT , my near and dear friend ,
BE TOTAL PROOF its love cometh NOT OF GOD but of the world and darkness .
FOR the LOVE OF GOD is that WE KEEP his commandments
and HIS commandment was TO BLEIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS and to LOVE one another .
HE who loves CHRIST LOVETH THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM .
HE who denies Him serves only satan .

 

[Marvelloustime]

this is speculation of course. Now its true that both enoch and elijah were taken of GOD ,
this does not mean its those two .
What we do know is , or what we should know is
Anyone who even t ries to imply or say that it was not necessary to have had to BELIEVE ON JESUS
IS indeed a liar and an anti christ . EVEN if they try and claim they are of us .
The FATHER testified ON THE SON , THE SPIRIT testifies on the SON
the apostels whose faith was in JESUS and thus had the SPIRIT , they testified on the SON .
BUT today i aint seeing this from this all inclusive ecumenical crowd .
NO sir , they are testifying on a lie . On a really big broad inclusive and wide path to GOD .
One that has made GOD the ministir of sins and UNBELEIF . And THAT , my near and dear friend ,
BE TOTAL PROOF its love cometh NOT OF GOD but of the world and darkness .
FOR the LOVE OF GOD is that WE KEEP his commandments
and HIS commandment was TO BLEIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS and to LOVE one another .
HE who loves CHRIST LOVETH THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM .
HE who denies Him serves only satan .

@amigo de christo

 

[William Barton]

There's no such thing as a 7 year tribulation found in scripture, it will be a 3.5 year or 42 month or 1260 day tribulation, all describing g the same

The Beast will be given 42months or 3.5 years and the tribulation starts when the Abomination Of Desolation takes place as The Beast is revealed to the world

The Two Witnesses will be given the same time of 1260 days or 3.5 years, (The Beast) and the (Two Witnesses) will be on the earth during the great tribulation at the very same time, up to the 3rd woe-7th Trump

Truth717 noted:
<tribulation *starts* when the Abomination takes place>

IMO:
o. The abomination (antichrist professing to be God) triggers the great tribulation (see Matthew 24:21).

o. Rapture then occurs, removing believers from the scene:
"So he who was seated on the *cloud* swung his sickle over the earth..."
(Revelation 14:14-16)

o. "For the Lord Himself will *descend from heaven* with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ *shall rise* first." (1Thessalonians 4:16)

o. Then occurs bad times for those left behind:
"For then there will be *great tribulation,* such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no and never will be." (Matthew 24:21)

o. God will not be patient forever.

 

[Truth7t7]

Truth717 noted:
<tribulation *starts* when the Abomination takes place>

IMO:
o. The abomination (antichrist professing to be God) triggers the great tribulation (see Matthew 24:21).

o. Rapture then occurs, removing believers from the scene:
"So he who was seated on the *cloud* swung his sickle over the earth..."
(Revelation 14:14-16)

o. "For the Lord Himself will *descend from heaven* with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ *shall rise* first." (1Thessalonians 4:16)

o. Then occurs bad times for those left behind:
"For then there will be *great tribulation,* such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no and never will be." (Matthew 24:21)

o. God will not be patient forever.

Truth7t7 Says:

A pre-trib rapture isn't found in scripture, it's a man made fabricated fairy tale

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[William Barton]

Truth7t7 Says:

A pre-trib rapture isn't found in scripture, it's a man made fabricated fairy tale

Jesus Is The Lord

Suggestion:
o. Take a look at Revelation 21:22 (rapture).
o. The rapture removes believers from the FOLLOWING bowl judgments.
o. Hence PRE- tribulation.
o The rapture is described in Revelation 14:-17-20.
o. Also in 1Thessalonians 4:15.-17.
o. If you believe Jesus is Lord, then shouldn't you believe his Book?