I think this is a situation where you should first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Flat Earth Theory
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This means absolutely nothing to me. I believe God ....period. That's what I endeavor to do in every area of my life. I'm not perfect, but that is my aim.
David in NJ
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You should be REPORTED for your hateful anti-Christ post against a member of the Body of Christ.
Better read this again
“Judge not, that you be not judged. 2For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
...........20Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
David did you not start this by saying "You just committed a very serious sin before God." And I asked you to check yourself before you accuse me, and you consider that anti-Christian.
One of the many reasons flat earthers have 0 credibility with the rest of the world.
David in NJ
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Time for us to hit the RESET button = as Christ commanded us
This began with your post: "Surely you realize the elite pieces of garbage put flat earth out to divide people even further."
You seem to be including me with "the elite pieces of garbage"
amigo de christo
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try it in a vacumn .
The reason why water rolls off a cup is due to the force of earths own gravity david .
It is the same reason a man can drop a ball at his feet on a boat going ten miles per hour
and yet if he were to drop that same ball off the side of said ship , notice it falls behind him .
Of course i dont believe if one believes the earth is round or flat that is gonna damn them at all .
WE got far bigger fish to fry my friend . We got THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL
that both round earthers and flat earthers are NOW DENYING . and oh yeah THAT IS GONNA DAMN
every last one of them . TO deny JESUS is TO DENY GOD .
David in NJ
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My LOVED brother in CHRIST,
Gravity does not exist = even the global scientists know this.
You can do a simple gravity/globe experiment.
Time your experiment when you, in Texas, are at the bottom/upside down of the earth's supposed rotation.
Have a crane lift a tractor, small dump truck or larger, approximately 10,000lbs in weight.
Now stand directly underneath the tractor and or dump truck.
If gravity existed, there MUST be at LEAST 10,000lbs of 'gravitational' pulling force upon the tractor/dump truck to keep it to the earth.
If gravity existed, the moment you stepped underneath the suspended vehicle you would be crushed by 10,000lb gravitational force being exerted upon you = you would be crushed instantly = like a bug.
The scientists know this and they must keep quiet or lose their jobs, their educational degrees and even their lives.
Again, your selective hearing programming avoided the whole truth of the matter.
"All stars rotate East to West around Polaris just above the central North Pole like in a planetarium dome.
The amount of sky we can see depends on where we are and which way we're looking.
Our Earth planetarium is so vast that perspective doesn't allow you to see all the stars from any one vantage point.
You can however see Polaris, Ursa Major/Minor and other Northern constellations from every point on Earth all the way to the Southern Tropic of Capricorn.
The supposed "South Pole star, Sigma Octaritis," the Southern Crux and other outer constellations conversely can NOT be seen simultaneously from every point in the Southern Hemi'sphere' the way Polaris can from every point in the North.
Nor do the Southern constellations circle around it West to East as claimed by modern astronomy. No matter where you are on Earth, all stars rise more or less in the East and set in the West, with the angle/inclination being based on where exactly you are on Earth and what direction you're facing.
Modern astronomy claims the stars rotate one way in the Northern Hemi'sphere' and the opposite way in the South, but this is a drastic over-simplification used to bolster their ball model.
Similarly, they claim the Moon viewed from the Northern Hemi'sphere' is seen right-side up but when viewed from the Southern Hemi'sphere' appears upside-down.
As you can see here (2-min. mark), this too is a drastic over-simplification, as the Moon's features can be seen from 360 degrees of inclination depending on from where/when on Earth you re viewing.
As you travel Southwards from the North Pole, Polaris and its surrounding stars decline in the sky due to perspective, so at the North Pole Polaris is situated directly 90 degrees above your head but at the mid-Northern latitudes (like here @2:15 mark) it's about 45+/- degrees.
Polaris remains fixed while all the other stars rotate 24-hour circles around it. The stars near Polaris rotate very slowly while those further and further away rotate progressively faster.
Astrolabes are able to accurately reproduce the motions of all the celestial bodies over a flat circular plane. This would not be possible if Earth were a spinning ball orbiting the Sun with two "hemispheres" which constantly aligned perfectly with both Polaris in the North and Sigma Octaritis, the supposed "South Pole star."
They openly admit, however, that "Sigma Octaritis" isn't actually a genuine "South Pole star" at all because it's a whole degree off from center. Not only this, but it's completely invisible to the naked eye, and there is not a single picture of the star available online.
The stars never move in relation to each other. They are always the same distance apart and in the same patterns."
"Studying" A.I. search results is a fool's game.
There are few topics that are more polarizing (pun intended) as that of the shape of the earth . Because of the enemy's 24/7/365 programming assault against the truth, from the time of infancy through to adulthood, a majority have given themselves over to a lie. Contentiousness reigns because the spiritual stakes are so high.
Of those who love the truth vs. those who are continually manifesting their worldliness, which are you? There's no reverencing of the word of God among the raging. They're not interested in reasoning together the scriptures. They don't search the scriptures to see if these things be true. Nor are they diligent with information provided them; they'd rather trust in their eyes because it seems to confirm the incessant mind control. This is quite troubling because ppl who don't love the truth are given over to strong delusion that they should believe a lie (e.g. cartoons, CGI, A.I. talking heads and freemasons). Ultimately, I am reminded of John 16: These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. (v. 1-3)
Reckless lies only deepen the deception:
At some point, these ppl must will to know the truth - accepting wherever it may lead them.
I was reading this morning about Stephen's murder as he was declaring the truth. The supposed church leadership was cut to the heart; they cried out to drown the noise of their own consciences, stopped their ears and flew upon Stephen. Witness the behavior in this thread.
Alas, you can lead a horse to water, but...
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David in NJ
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You do not realize that your UNbelievers are indoctrinated to believe in a globe earth.
Like yourself = that is why they laugh at the Holy Scriptures of TRUTH = Satan's power to deceive thru "so-called science"
When you get to Heaven, if you know & love the LORD, then your eyes/mind will be opened.
It doesn't matter "so much to flat earthers." Rather, the takeaway for the discerning is in knowing why it's life-and-death to those who so desperately cling to the mainstream narrative and who do NOT search the scriptures for themselves. Fear is their ultimate master, and their programmed manifestations are over-the-top ungodly.
...versus the world's nonstop conditioning as per the vitriol in this thread.
"Four corners" was scripturally addressed previously here.
Bust out the scriptures, as I and others have done. Let's see what our Final Authority is telling us.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. Thank you, Jesus!
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David in NJ
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@amigo de christo @PeterAndroz
Peter, modern day christianity is not lead by the Holy Spirit and has conformed to this world.
Christians are too afraid of the System.
The System, controlled by Satan, will never permit factual science to be taught nor brought to light.
This was CLEAR as DAY with the Covid and Satan's Big Pharma science.
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,"
When the miracle of the Mark is debuted and offered with all of it's benefits - will you take it???
Peter, modern day christianity is not lead by the Holy Spirit and has conformed to this world.
Christians are too afraid of the System.
The System, controlled by Satan, will never permit factual science to be taught nor brought to light.
This was CLEAR as DAY with the Covid and Satan's Big Pharma science.
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,"
When the miracle of the Mark is debuted and offered with all of it's benefits - will you take it???
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Speaking of "scient-ists" and "of science falsely so called" (1 Tim. 6:20)...
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"Put not your trust in princes..." (or Masonic dukes) (Psa. 146:3).
Speaking of "scient-ists" and "of science falsely so called" (1 Tim. 6:20)...
...Sir Isaac Newton (Masonic Biographies, universalfreemasonry.org)
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Henry Cavendish belonged to the highly influential Cavendish family (the House of Devonshire). Multiple relatives were prominent Freemasons, including several Dukes of Devonshire who served as Grand Masters or Provincial Grand Masters. There are actual Masonic lodges named after his family, such as Cavendish Lodge No. 2620 in London and Cavendish Lodge No. 3055 in Chesterfield, established after his death and named to honor the family estate or titles.
"Put not your trust in princes..." (or Masonic dukes) (Psa. 146:3).
Albert Einstein - yet another Freemason: Masonic Hall St. Helens, Famous Masons
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Do you take this verse as written?My conviction is that we just need to believe what He says.
Ezekiel 7:2 says the end has come "upon the four corners of the land" — the land of Israel. Was Israel a square? Nobody thinks so. It means the whole land, every direction.
That's what the phrase has always meant. We still talk this way — the four corners of the country. Nobody hears that as a claim about geometry.
This is what gets me about flat earth arguments. The four corners of the earth in no way describes the geometry of the earth anymore than it described the geometry of Israel.
Do you think the land of Israel was a square?
David in NJ
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The phrase "four corners" is applicable to the entire surface of the earth.
It is NOT applicable to a globe.
GOD knows what HE has Said to us for HE always Speaks Truth.
Which is why GOD never spoke of:
a.) globe/sphere earth
b.) earth spinning thru space
c.) earth revolving around the sun
d.) orbiting a spherical earth
e.) moonlight derived from the sun
f.) WATER flowing uphill
g.) mankind being able to find and search out the foundations of the earth
h.) the sun 25,000 lightyears distance from the earth
i.) Understanding the cosmos that comes from Egypt, Babylon and the fallen angels that we should follow.
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Do you also believe the land of Israel was a square?
Rather, it's a density-buoyancy relationship.
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It's not "describing the geometry" or even "a square."
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Here are the 19 verses where the phrase "four corners" is used. Check it out.
The habitable world is bound in four directions - just like the sheet in the vision. Some would refer to the cardinal points of a compass i.e. north, south, east, west.
To restate, Acts chapter 10, Peter had a vision of a vessel ("a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners") full of animals being lowered from heaven (v. 11).
as it had been = like/as, a comparison - IOW, not a literal bed sheet BUT the "four corners" aspect is in view.
Then the vessel ("sheet") was taken back to heaven (v. 16). It speaks of mankind and not of dietary restrictions. The “great sheet” mentioned was the closest pure idea that God could use to get through to Peter that all men were valid and worthy of the shed blood of Christ Jesus.
What is very important to notice is that we do not see any floating animals outside the sheet (or "celestial bodies/objects/aliens"). Let’s look again... How many floating animals were there outside the sheet? None. Or rather, were there many sheets? No. All sentient men were represented on only one sheet, representing only one land. All sentient, intelligent, cognitive animalkind is on earth, and only earth.
Jesus spells it out in Matthew 24:31 and again in Mark 13:27: “And he will send his angels with a trumpet of great voice, and they shall gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” But I digress from Biblical cosmology to delve into eschatology to speak of this. The two are related, and to show correlation, only behooves us to become better students of the Word, does it not?
We see something interesting after Satan is released:
And [Satan] shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
quarters = gōnia = angle, corner [not a spherical concept]
breadth = platos = of great extent, broad, wide [not a spherical concept]
I submit that hidden within the revelation of our dear friend, John, lies a deep mystery of an earth unlike what we find from our governmental agencies today.
...bottom line.
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