Once again you're avoiding actually addressing any argument that shows the flat-earth position is both unscientific and unbiblical and, therefore, irrational.
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David in NJ
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And thus a CHOICE between Truth and the world system must be made = by everyone.
NASA, the globe earth, aliens and the Mark of the Beast are ALL connected
Yahshua said to the children of Israel = "Choose you This DAY, who you will serve"
Whatever seems to work, eh?
This is the crux of your position, indeed, of your predicament - the hackneyed "failing to understand context" retort.
If you'd put as much effort into regularly donning knee pads as you do in stroking your ego, then you, too, may begin to walk in true liberty. As always, it's your call.
Rather, you've been shown, in this thread alone, copious documented proof of the ball earth deception from its inception.
The posts of naysayers here exhibit blatant deception and the inability to grasp reality, and the lie that is space travel. Psychologically, ones inability to grasp reality when being told a lie, can stem from fear of being wrong, tribal loyalty, emotional investment in the belief, or “sunk-cost fallacy” (having already invested too much in the false idea to let it go). The opposite, however, is intellectual humility or a genuine truth-seeking mindset: being willing to change your mind when the evidence demands it, no matter how inconvenient.
...any scriptural basis for what you believe re: your ball earth.
David in NJ
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i avoid NOTHING on the questions of Truth and i fear no evil for: "Thy Rod and Thy Staff Comfort me."
Today, on this subject and more, we are "walking thru the valley of the shadow of death" = lies from Satan only brings death!
i shall not be afraid for my Heavenly FATHER has equipped me for battle with His Word and the HOLY SPIRIT of Truth.
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
I need to clarify a previous exchange:
Gravity is a hoax. Electric forces (not "gravity") hold our world together.
NASA states that our universe is constantly expanding, and that this expansion is actually speeding up:
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God states that the universe is complete, it is NOT growing and ever expanding:
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. (Gen. 2:1)
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If your water is poured into a container (a "cup") of air, it will sink/fall to the bottom. But if your water is poured into a container (a "cup") of corn syrup, it will float/rise to the top. It's a simple density-buoyancy relationship - not "gravity."
Gravity is a hoax. Electric forces (not "gravity") hold our world together.
NASA states that our universe is constantly expanding, and that this expansion is actually speeding up:
source
God states that the universe is complete, it is NOT growing and ever expanding:
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. (Gen. 2:1)
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You know I love you sister. You will never be my enemy and same to @doctrox and @David in NJ.
That being said, I’m done with flat earth debate, it’s divisive and serves no purpose and one side will never move the other side.
This one I will debate. The context is the time of Jacobs trouble and the second coming of Christ. Obviously speaking of Christ coming at the resurrection in with all power and great glory.
David in NJ
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100% AGREE
Because of our love for each other, God is pleased.
Avoiding growth in Truth from His Word - HE is not pleased.
SHALOM IndianaRob
amigo de christo
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yeah i would not heed Nasa or satans evolution .
Fair enough, but know that it's not a "debate" (although that's where the enemy would take us all). It's about believers speaking truth to power. Any 'movement' from "one side" or from "the other side" is to be done by the Holy Spirit.
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David in NJ
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i FULLY accept your challenge
i am saving and savoring the delicious response from The Word for tomorrow.
i am older now, and my work is dangerous and requires physical strength.
The last two nights in a row i had but 3 solid hours of sleep.
So i am retiring for the night.
If you love the LORD Jesus Christ, feel free to pray for your brother in Christ:
a.) DEEP Rejuvenating sleep
b.) Strength and safety for the job i must finish tomorrow and the one the next day.
SHALOM
Dan Clarkston
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Surely, you're joking, right? A "testimony" is a precept of God! IOW, blasphemy is what has been published by NASA, a documented liar...simply more A.I.-generated pap being regurgitated here by the incontinent.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Tim. 3:2-7). If that doesn't describe NASA and its sycophants, what does?
BTW, the word incontinent means lacking self-control or failing to restrain one's passions and desires.
"A Freemason initiated in Tejon Lodge No. 104 in Colorado Springs, Colorado." - wikipedia
"Initiated in Alabama, raised at Lawrence N. Greenleaf Lodge No. 169 in Colorado, and later a member of Clear Lake Lodge No. 1417 in Seabrook, Texas. He carried a Scottish Rite flag and a special deputation from the Grand Lodge of Texas to the lunar surface."
It is the denial of the scripture's absolute authority (and not its difficulty of interpretation) that has resulted in the various divisions of Christ's people. The truth is simple, it’s just that men make it complicated.
Once an absolute standard has been abandoned, there is no logic for determining right from wrong other than human logic. Whenever supposed believers abandon the absolute standard of Scripture, the outcome of all religious and moral decisions is left in the hands of men. And whether these decisions are rendered by clergy, scholars, theologians, courts, synods, membership votes, or forum posters, if the decisions do not come from Scripture, then they must come from people of society, and sooner or later those decisions will inevitably be influenced by society - even as NASA has been thoroughly exposed as a LIAR:
...the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not... (2 Cor. 4:4)
Witness what passes for "fellowship" in this thread! This is the Christian Theology Forum, not the Christian Debate Forum - even as both are ostensibly for "Christians Only"!
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The manifestations of the accuser are in full bloom. I've never seen so much sophistry* and pettifogging in my life! Where, O where, are the scriptures? Where is the word of God? And "debate" is a characteristic of the reprobate mind:Sadly the slow ones continue with their false claims that "the earth is flat"
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness...wickedness, covetousness...full of envy...debate, deceit, malignity...despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things...Without understanding...without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans chap. 1)
nāšā' (H5377) = to beguile, deceive - Blue Letter Bible
Gen 3:13
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled nāšā' me, H5377 and I did eat.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. (Mat. 24:4)
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*Sophistry Has Roots in Greek Philosophy
The original Sophists were ancient Greek teachers of rhetoric and philosophy prominent in the 5th century B.C. In their heyday, these philosophers were considered adroit in their reasoning, but later philosophers (particularly Plato) described them as sham philosophers, out for money and willing to say anything to win an argument. Thus sophist (which comes from Greek sophistēs, meaning "wise man" or "expert") earned a negative connotation as "a captious or fallacious reasoner." Sophistry is reasoning that seems plausible on a superficial level but is actually unsound, or reasoning that is used to deceive. - Webster's
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David in NJ
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Surely, you're joking, right? A "testimony" is a precept of God! IOW, blasphemy is what has been published by NASA , a documented liar...simply more A.I.-generated pap being regurgitated here by the incontinent.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Tim. 3:2-7). If that doesn't describe NASA and its sycophants, what does?
BTW, the word incontinent means lacking self-control or failing to restrain one's passions and desires.
It is the denial of the scripture's absolute authority (and not its difficulty of interpretation) that has resulted in the various divisions of Christ's people. The truth is simple, it’s just that men make it complicated.
Once an absolute standard has been abandoned, there is no logic for determining right from wrong other than human logic. Whenever supposed believers abandon the absolute standard of Scripture, the outcome of all religious and moral decisions is left in the hands of men. And whether these decisions are rendered by clergy, scholars, theologians, courts, synods, membership votes, or forum posters, if the decisions do not come from Scripture, then they must come from people of society, and sooner or later those decisions will inevitably be influenced by society - even as NASA has been thoroughly exposed as a LIAR:
...the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not...
Witness what passes for "fellowship" in this thread! This is the Christian Theology Forum, not the Christian Debate Forum - even as both are ostensibly for "Christians Only"!
The manifestations of the accuser are in full bloom. I've never seen so much sophistry* and pettifogging in my life! Where, O where, are the scriptures? Where is the word of God? And "debate" is a characteristic of the reprobate mind:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness...wickedness, covetousness...full of envy...debate, deceit, malignity...despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things...Without understanding...without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans chap. 1)
nāšā' (H5377) = to beguile, deceive - Blue Letter Bible
Gen 3:13
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled nāšā' me, H5377 and I did eat.
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*Sophistry Has Roots in Greek Philosophy
The original Sophists were ancient Greek teachers of rhetoric and philosophy prominent in the 5th century B.C. In their heyday, these philosophers were considered adroit in their reasoning, but later philosophers (particularly Plato) described them as sham philosophers, out for money and willing to say anything to win an argument. Thus sophist (which comes from Greek sophistēs, meaning "wise man" or "expert") earned a negative connotation as "a captious or fallacious reasoner." Sophistry is reasoning that seems plausible on a superficial level but is actually unsound, or reasoning that is used to deceive.
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And we SEE the LORD teaching these things in His Gospel to His disciples and to us.
Dan Clarkston
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The flat earth peeps twist scripture to attempt to validate their claims... as if one must believe the earth is flat in order to be allowed in to God's Kingdom
It's quite the hilarious spectacle!That's why I'm not debating... I'm declaring which is what Jesus did.
He declared the Truth of God's Word and those that disagree were free to leave.
Yeah so WHERE did the Lord tell us the earth is flat again?
What chapter and verse would that be exactly?
If you've read this entire thread, you've seen many supporting scriptures. If you're still asking, then you're not reading your Bible, and/or being contentious.
So ....where is your scripture?? Just because you declare something doesn't make it true.
I see little to no value in your posts. You love strife and contention, so don't expect me to go back and forth on this.
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Dan Clarkston
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God's Word has to be twisted to make the false claim that the earth is flat
Regardless, this has nothing to do with salvation.
There are NO warnings in God's Word that says "if thou don't believest thou that the earth is flat, thou shalt burn in hell"
I'm not the one falsely claiming the earth is flat.
The old devil is having lots of fun with the flat earth people
David in NJ
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Correction: The earth is a level plane on top with mountains and valleys and miles DEEP oceans.
The earth is so DEEP that even with all of today's technology, no one is able to find out how far down the earth goes.
MOST IMPORTANT = GOD Said so = Jeremiah 31:37 and Job ch38
In Genesis, Isaiah, Job and in the Gospel = IF you only knew!!!
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