The Book of Remembrance

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Episkopos

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And just to say, it is both. As usual you are only seeing one side of the coin..........which is very deceitful. The people sacrificed/slew the Lamb, but on the other hand it was God who provided/gave the Lamb to be sacrificed and purposely allowed it in His sovereignty. Remember why Jesus rebuked Peter when He said "Get thee behind me Satan for thou savourest not the things OF GOD but of man."
So you are saying that Satan was speaking of the other side of the coin that Jesus was missing? And I am also missing? :rolleyes:

Why don't you savour the things of God to the exclusion of the things of men? You don't realize that a little leaven leavens the whole batch. You can't mix the things of God with the aspirations of men. Hence the rebuke of Jesus.
 

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So you are saying that Satan was speaking of the other side of the coin that Jesus was missing? And I am also missing? :rolleyes:

Why don't you savour the things of God to the exclusion of the things of men? You don't realize that a little leaven leavens the whole batch. You can't mix the things of God with the aspirations of men. Hence the rebuke of Jesus.
Suggest you stop mixing things of God with things of the carnal mind. The Lord is not impressed with the supposed cleverness of man.
 

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Suggest you stop mixing things of God with things of the carnal mind. The Lord is not impressed with the supposed cleverness of man.
The irony here is palpable. Your "other side of the coin" you defend so ardently is from the carnal mind. It's about your own aspirations. It needs to go to the cross.

Your care for the things of the flesh reveal a divided heart. Instead, allow God to unite your heart to fear the Lord. Let Him think about you. You can stop thinking about you and your own concerns.

But she who seeks to save her life....will lose it.
 
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The irony here is palpable. Your "other side of the coin" you defend so ardently is from the carnal mind. It's about your own aspirations. It needs to go to the cross.

Your care for the things of the flesh reveal a divided heart. Instead, allow God to unite your heart to fear the Lord. Let Him think about you. You can stop thinking about you and your own concerns.

But she who seeks to save her life....will lose it.
God sacrificing His Son is about "my" aspirations? Ah well, you feel free to believe what you will. SMH.
 

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It is the denomination of the truth which is everywhere spoken evil of by the religious system. It is by revelation of God. The brotherhood is universal (everywhere) but very small. The attachment is only by the Spirit and love of the truth. There is no name but Christ.
Why does everyone disagree with you? Are you the only one with the truth?
 

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The irony here is palpable. Your "other side of the coin" you defend so ardently is from the carnal mind. It's about your own aspirations. It needs to go to the cross.

Your care for the things of the flesh reveal a divided heart. Instead, allow God to unite your heart to fear the Lord. Let Him think about you. You can stop thinking about you and your own concerns.

But she who seeks to save her life....will lose it.
Are you saying @Lizbeth isn't saved?
 

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Why does everyone disagree with you? Are you the only one with the truth?
I'm probably the only one who has ever been before the Lord for real. And the only one here who has walked in Zion (kingdom realm) for an extended amount of time. So maybe I am far more familiar with the truth than most.

I also have a special training from the Lord. I know God in experience not just in theory. But I don't hold that over others...I just try correcting people into a view that supports the truth.
 

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Are you saying @Lizbeth isn't saved?
Not at all. Salvation however includes 3 different destinies.

1. The saints

2. The righteous

3. The filthy

My effort here and elsewhere is to see that those who are destined for outer darkness are saved FROM that eternal destiny.

So then the rejected ones are still saved...but they lose everything when tested in fire. My mission is to save the souls of those who have been religiously indoctrinated to fail the grace of God.

I approach people not in a personal way....but by confronting a whole category of people. As you will see...people tend to try ganging up on me...which proves they are acting from the category I'm trying to reach out to.

A big irony here is that you have the word crow in your username. I hope that isn't indicative of you joining the faction here that I call "the crows".
 

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I'm probably the only one who has ever been before the Lord for real. And the only one here who has walked in Zion (kingdom realm) for an extended amount of time. So maybe I am far more familiar with the truth than most.

I also have a special training from the Lord. I know God in experience not just in theory. But I don't hold that over others...I just try correcting people into a view that supports the truth.
Why should I believe you?

The Boreans here have cast an enormous doubt on your salvation VIA works salvation.
 

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Not at all. Salvation however includes 3 different destinies.

1. The saints

2. The righteous

3. The filthy

My effort here and elsewhere is to see that those who are destined for outer darkness are saved FROM that eternal destiny.

So then the rejected ones are still saved...but they lose everything when tested in fire. My mission is to save the souls of those who have been religiously indoctrinated to fail the grace of God.

I approach people not in a personal way....but by confronting a whole category of people. As you will see...people tend to try ganging up on me...which proves they are acting from the category I'm trying to reach out to.
Let me get this right....the people who have ganged up on you are not saved. Am I correct?
 

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Why should I believe you?

The Boreans here have cast an enormous doubt on your salvation VIA works salvation.
Bereans. The Boreans are the bored ones. :)

The gospel is about grace through faith into holiness. But also about God's mercy on the meek, the righteous, God fearers. the poor....etc.

Anybody will see that who is NOT indoctrinated.

All the ways of God are BOTH mercy and truth. People want mercy from God but are unwilling to show it to others.
 

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Basically people don't understand righteousness. People see self-righteousness everywhere because...they are self-righteous. We see things as WE are. And the bible is written in a way that exposes the true heart of the person.

David says....judge me according to my righteousness.(PS. 7:8, Ps. 18:20,24)...and people will say that David was self-righteous...because they don't realize that we will ALL be judged according to OUR righteousness as God sees it in His righteousness.

God will judge the world in righteousness...according to the righteousness He sees in us.
 
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I agree..but you are not presenting the gospel. You are presenting a different gospel.
So you are a crow after all. You only agree because it says it in the bible not because you understand or agree. You are saying one thing and then judging from your carnal mind. I am presenting the true gospel by grace through faith into HOLINESS. The false gospel is a SINFUL holiness and a sinful salvation. But In Christ there is no sin. Christ is not a minister of sin.

The good news is NOT about sinning and getting away with it. That is the "other" gospel that is condemned.

If you sow to the flesh you will reap corruption (you will mentally agree with this even as you do it)

If you sow to the Spirit you will reap life (you will also agree with this even as you don't do it...like any crow.)
 
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No. Who said that?

How are your reading skills? Read what I wrote again....this time with feeling. :)

I have no problem with reading skills...maybe you have a problem with writing skills.

You posted....

I approach people not in a personal way....but by confronting a whole category of people. As you will see...people tend to try ganging up on me...which proves they are acting from the category I'm trying to reach out to.
Your post have been saying people from this category...those who have not recognized Christ for who and what He is...just have to be good people and they can escape hell.
A big irony here is that you have the word crow in your username. I hope that isn't indicative of you joining the faction here that I call "the crows".
You have absolutely no clue as to why my avatar has "crow" in it. I suggest you drop your antagonistic accusations.
 

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I have no problem with reading skills...maybe you have a problem with writing skills.

You posted....


Your post have been saying people from this category...those who have not recognized Christ for who and what He is...just have to be good people and they can escape hell.


When did I say anything about hell? Do you realize you are inventing things about what I say just like you do when you read the bible and get the message all wrong? All I do is to correct those errant views. If you are a Berean (and not a Borean) then check out the bible for yourself. Have you even watched the video? Modern people are very lazy when it comes to thinking before speaking.
You have absolutely no clue as to why my avatar has "crow" in it. I suggest you drop your antagonistic accusations.
Your behaviour follows a pattern..and God has a sense of irony and humour. But the other crows here have no real sense of this.

Look deeper into what I'm saying before jumping to the very silly conclusions you are inventing...then we'll talk.
 

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When did I say anything about hell? Do you realize you are inventing things about what I say just like you do when you read the bible and get the message all wrong? All I do is to correct those errant views. If you are a Berean (and not a Borean) then check out the bible for yourself. Have you even watched the video? Modern people are very lazy when it comes to thinking before speaking.

Your behaviour follows a pattern..and God has a sense of irony and humour. But the other crows here have no real sense of this.

Look deeper into what I'm saying before jumping to the very silly conclusions you are inventing...then we'll talk.
If you misuse my name again...and continue mocking it...you will be reported to the moderators.
 

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If you misuse my name again...and continue mocking it...you will be reported to the moderators.
You are very new here and don't know any of the history of the forum....and if you aren't interested to know more about it...like a Berean would...then fine.