WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS
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If sin committed by a born-again Christian can cast them out of the Kingdom of God, who then can be saved?
amigo de christo
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Look again at what you wrote . It does proclaim the gospel and teaches obediance to Gods commandments .
YEAH , SO DOES THE JW WATCH TOWER . do ya really think they follow HIM .
In fact if you were to go into some of the worst churches i bet some would still claim
they do so .
But it dont mean they do so . I see lots of unbelief and i see lots of adding too and taking froms .
That is a serious deadly problem .
The RCC is deadly dangerous , as is the JW tower and as darn sure is that nar realm .
HEY i bet even calvin could cliam to beleive the gospel and to teach Gods commandments .
but do you really THINK HE DID .
The time is that we must flee anything ecumeincal inclusive and its intefaith .
REmember teh warning left to us by peter and others .
And just as there were f alse prophets among the people
so too shall there be false teachers among you .
Oh and they sure will be teaching damnable hersays
and oh yeah MANY would follow their persnicous ways . YOU do realize peter was writing to the church
and telling the church what was going to come within it . OH THEY HAVE . OH THEY HAVE .
and they lead us all into the great harlots cup of an ecumeincal inclusive intefaith of anti christ . we are being lied to
by means of a false sensual love and an anti christ peace . So i has to warn , sorry i mean i have to warn .
The blood of this people will not be on my hands . AND i see NO LOVE OF GOD
in one that allow sin and even a false g ospel upon this people .
SO into those prayer closets you GO and you pray hard and feverently for the LORD
to send men into the harvest , to procliam JESUS and to expose all that is false and all who is false .
I have this against you , said the LORD to a church , You aer ALLOWING a false prophetess to teach and to seduce
MY PEOPLE . nar realm GOTTA GO , anything ecumeincal gotta go , no more all inclusie false love ,
no more gatthering as one for world peace under a plan of anti christ that did deny FAITH IN CHRIST .
WE gots to do something and we have got to do it Now . Time is running out and the delusion is taking
souls by the troops now to a harlot house .
amigo de christo
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there is a pattern . if one sins they repent . but if one jusifies his or her sin, WHERE IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
in such a man .
Cause the SPIRIT dont hold dark rainbows and benjamins and or any sin .
THE FLESH . Many have not the SPIRIT
because their faith was in another jesus and that other jesus was a servant to their sin .
AND THAT AINT THE JESUS CHRIST of GOD . satan can use the name of JESUS .
HE can e ven say GOD is love . but watch out he gonna lie lie lie .
And so will his minstirs in wool .
amigo de christo
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Purse the lips and SOUND THE TRUMPET
That which is of anti christ is peaking
and this peoples are being led RIGHT TOO IT .
Sound the trumpet of alarm
that a trogan love horse of peace has come inside of many churches
and while men slept in smooth doctrines of men , they realized not
inside that Horse of peace and love , were men ready to take that house to the lie .
What to do . When one cannot overcome a house from outside
Then he will send in peaceful men dressed in wool and he will
buy his time as his co workers do work upon their little ones
The lie by means of false love and peace . And by use of five words
he convinced them TO OPEN THE DOORS so that he who is not GOD but will play as if he is
Could convince them all , HE WAS THE ALL INCLUSIVE GOD who loved all and to be as ONE peoples
for peace . ONLY satan lies remember . WE been INFILTRATED big time .
And its not in the early st ages . Its now in the very latter stages .
Soon all not in the lambs book of life will have bought the lie , the lie they will see as love
and as a means to their world peace n safety . but only to their own sudden destruction
BY THE GOD and HIS CHRIST , that their love and their god DENIED and peace plan denied .
WE got a problem my f riend . So get in PRAYER and stay in prayer
and pray the LORD send men out into the harvest to PROCLIAM again the Only name WHO can save
and to remind all that HE is no minstir of any sin , NOR false religoin . we are in dire straits
in these last days on earth .
Doesn't sound like a born-again Christian is cast out of the Kingdom of God through sin. Sounds more like one who professes to have been born again but does not have the Holy Spirit Who has given eternal life that shall never be lost because the Spirit of Christ shall be with whosoever has been born again forever. Our life, both physical and spiritual comes not through flesh, but through s/Spirit. When one is indwelt with the Spirit of God in them, they both know and have entered the Kingdom of God in heaven through the Spirit of Christ in them.
Again the point for whosoever believes born again Christians can be cast out of the Kingdom of God through sin, means that no man shall be saved.
John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
2 Corinthians 3:6 (KJV) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
John 1:13 (KJV) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Water baptism does cause divisions, but it shouldn't as the bible is quite clear about it. So it must be peoples' interpretation of the bible that causes the division.
I speak from personal experience. i was brought up Anglican even though my parents never set foot inside a church; they were doing the right/respectable thing in having me 'baptized' as a six week old baby.
After I was born again thirty five years later, and a member of a Church of England church I argued with Pentecostal friends who urged me to be baptised that I already had been.
Until one day, after I had been a Christian for about seven years, God spoke to me through the scriptures,
Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.’
The lovely vicar of the C of E church wasn't allowed to baptise me due the the fact that tradition said I had already been 'baptised' infant. So I joined a House Church and was truly baptised within weeks of joining. It was a joyous experience.
I speak from personal experience. i was brought up Anglican even though my parents never set foot inside a church; they were doing the right/respectable thing in having me 'baptized' as a six week old baby.
After I was born again thirty five years later, and a member of a Church of England church I argued with Pentecostal friends who urged me to be baptised that I already had been.
Until one day, after I had been a Christian for about seven years, God spoke to me through the scriptures,
Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.’
The lovely vicar of the C of E church wasn't allowed to baptise me due the the fact that tradition said I had already been 'baptised' infant. So I joined a House Church and was truly baptised within weeks of joining. It was a joyous experience.
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amigo de christo
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face the facts my friend . the born again are very few . for many i see live as though they born for sin
and born to recreate the image of a jesus and god that honors sins and Unbelief .
THEY ARE NOT NOT NOT the born again . the sooner we fact that fact
THE SOONER we get off our rears and start correcting these people in the hopes at least some repent
and actually do come to the one true JESUS who is not and never will be an accepter of any sins
YES NOT EVEN THE POLITALLCY CORRECT ones . JESUS dont hold rainbows bud .
And JESUS dont kiss korans and budda statues for world peace saying lets all find common ground for peace .
THE DEVIL DOES , not GOD , the anti christ does , NOT CHRIST .
Now lets just see who is the born again of GOD and thus TRULY DO bleieve IN THAT JESUS in that BIBLE .
amigo de christo
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You would be correct . MANY DO NOT have the HOLY SPIRIT as their guide
For they followed men into the realm of another god , another love , an inclusive love
which had transformed the image of GOD into
one identical to SATAN . and they have zero idea it is satan .
Because , THEY AR E NOT the born again of GOD and of HIS CHRIST .
Eternally Grateful
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water baptism does not cause divisions. It is the interpretation of it that does
Its not wrong to get water baptized. in fact it is commanded.
in same token, it is not wrong to get circumcised. in fact. for a jew, it was commanded.
but adding either one of them to the gospel. and making it a requirement is teaching a different gospel.. One paul said he did not teach and anyone who adds should be anathema. In fact. Paul called them fools.
Its not wrong to get water baptized. in fact it is commanded.
in same token, it is not wrong to get circumcised. in fact. for a jew, it was commanded.
but adding either one of them to the gospel. and making it a requirement is teaching a different gospel.. One paul said he did not teach and anyone who adds should be anathema. In fact. Paul called them fools.
amigo de christo
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speaking of adding too and taking from the GOSPEL , thus from the GRACE of GOD
SEEMS to me like this inclusive generation has done JUST that .
And boy do i see a huge all inclusvie love road to what all these poor souls were told IS THE ROAD TO GOD .
But i noticted something about this huge big broad inclusive road .
THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS , IS not on it . IN Fact its even unecessary to have to do so .
IN fact when i came preaching tHE ONLY WAY TO GOD , to atheiest
WHY a king inclusivain CALLED IT religious extremism . GEE sounds like that road IS THE BROAD ONE INDEED .
AT least they didnt lie when they said it was BROAD , they only lied when they said its the road TO GOD .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . And i know exactly what road I AINT GETTING ON .
The ecumeincal inclusive intefaith one . I shall stick to and cling to JESUS CHRIST and THAT NARROW ROAD .
Eternally Grateful
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we are saved by grace. through faith, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
grace. it means cherity. People say it is to easy. But thats just it. its so easy no one wants to do it. why? Pride
grace comes from the word Charis, from whence we get our english word cherity.
and hence you see the problem. Pride says how dare you offer me cherity, I earn what I recieve.
so the works merit based gospel is so easy for Satan to deceive people. because pride says how dare God say I can not earn it..
The problem comes from trying to make water baptism a pre-requisite for salvation. It is not! Water baptism, like circumcision of Old is an outward sign of belonging to the Covenant people of God OUTWARDLY, not always INWARDLY! That's why it's wrong to define water baptism as an outward sign of an inward change. Being baptized OUTWARDLY sets the church apart from the world, just as circumcision of Old set the nation apart from all other nations. While it's true water baptism points to baptism of the Holy Spirit through the Spirit of Christ, it is NOT part of the free gift of salvation given to whosoever believes and is born again.
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