Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Judge Hardcastle]

MANY MANY modern believers are headed for outer darkness.

Only fake believers.

Genuine born again believers have the forgiveness of God they believe and trust in to wipe away the guilt of their sin that would otherwise condemn them to outer darkness. The person who thinks that's a license to sin is showing that he is not a genuine believer. If he was a genuine believer he would have a new heart that seeks a lifestyle of righteousness not a lifestyle of unrighteousness.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

I had the same experience you had - both at once. The cleansing of fleshly desires from my nature, and the power of God. But it remained. No "leakage."

It seems from what you've said that it is your definition of sin that makes you think you are sinless.

 

[marks]

I expected a better answer from you,

I gave you an answer to your question regarding "commit sin" in the present active, and you didn't like it. So be it. I'm not going to argue with you over the meanings of these words.

Much love!

 

[ProDeo]

I gave you an answer to your question regarding "commit sin" in the present active, and you didn't like it. So be it. I'm not going to argue with you over the meanings of these words.

Much love!

Actually I was replying to your question why I did not study Greek. And if my compliment offended you I apologize.

 

[marks]

Actually I was replying to your question why I did not study Greek. And if my compliment offended you I apologize.

What I'm saying is I've answered your question about the meaning and use of the word. You said, you don't see it. So since you don't receive it from me, you'd do well to study Koine Greek so that you can know this for yourself. If you feel it's not meaningful to study KG because words change meanings, I'm saying, there is historical information on the language, that we can learn.

If you are talking about something else, I don't know what that is, and perhaps you could clarify.

Much love!

 

[shepherdsword]

What I'm saying is I've answered your question about the meaning and use of the word. You said, you don't see it. So since you don't receive it from me, you'd do well to study Koine Greek so that you can know this for yourself. If you feel it's not meaningful to study KG because words change meanings, I'm saying, there is historical information on the language, that we can learn.

If you are talking about something else, I don't know what that is, and perhaps you could clarify.

Much love!

I posted this below and he gave it a like which to me, means he sees it.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

in them....you mean believing a fantasy....adopting pleasant thoughts about a future utopia.

If you do not believe in God's promise of the forgiveness of sin through Christ and the giving of the Holy Spirit you will have no part of the kingdom to come. You will be in outer darkness.

 

[ProDeo]

Almost enough to spark a little fear of the Lord, eh? Perish the thought, right?

It would change everything.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

I'm trying to get God's word through to you....but you are unable to hear what Jesus is saying....or any other writer in the bible. And you can't hear me either.

I don't 'hear' what you're saying because the sheep won't listen to the voice of a stranger.

John 10:4-5
4his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

The guarantee you NEED to pay attention to is that IF you repent of your naming and claiming...

I have everything Jesus says I can have. Don't you? Or is it that you don't have Jesus forgiveness for you to have everything that is his?

that Jesus will SELL YOU pure clothing, eye salve and true riches whereby glory will await.

In your great power of discernment tell me which of these I do not walk in:

Galatians 5:22-23
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control.

 

[Episkopos]

I had the same experience you had - both at once. The cleansing of fleshly desires from my nature, and the power of God. But it remained. No "leakage."

Then that's good. You received more than just a sample. I was young and foolish when I was first baptized in the Spirit...and I was on my own. The keeping power was there..but I wanted OUT. Too holy for me after a few days. I was too selfish.

The next time was 18 years later...and then I lasted for 2.5 years. That time I lost or fell from grace based on a test I failed...due to a lack of understanding of righteousness. I had an unbalanced view of intimacy with God versus obedience.

You had none of those problems...you just stayed in...which is great.

I believe my own difficulty taught me all the ins and outs, so to speak..where the framework lies...all the pitfalls and the way God judges things. It's for the Body. So I don't feel like an individual so much as a walking lesson on God's ways. I have been learning righteousness these past 25 years or so. Gathering a fellowship of disciples to enter in together.

 

[Episkopos]

It seems from what you've said that it is your definition of sin that makes you think you are sinless.

I never said I was sinless. Practice your own honesty. My testimony is that of the sinless walk as one enters into the kingdom realm of the Spirit...being translated into Zion to walk as Jesus walked in HIS resurrection life.

That is my testimony. The only reason why I'm online is because I am NOT presently walking in that power. I am "between" such higher walks so to speak. When I was in the Spirit I couldn't look at a TV screen or computer screen....it didn't make any sense. I was too busy with the revival of people coming from all over the world to interact with. God is not wasteful...and during our revival period we had guests constantly. So when the revival hits again, all I have to say will already be online in the form of a podcast and the forum.

 

[amigo de christo]

all who liv in sin are slaves to sin.

I stopped being a slave to sin 50 years ago. That does not mean sin does not creep into my life.. nor that all my struggles are gone.

that is part of maturing in Christ.

and yet it sure seems , as you saw yourself , many are running to the one sin
that will damn every last one of them .
EPI is not the only inclusivain , t hough he is much more progressed in it than many are my freind .
IF you want to know who is be led into this inclusive dissumalation .
ANYTHING and one that is connected to the ecumeincal inclusive harlot .
Many just have not yet bought the lie but MANY HAVE already b ought it .
IF we will not make our stand now
and if we decide in any way to judge not correct not , WE ARE GOING DOWN with them all .
THis people should never have bought into seeker friendly .
IT should never have bought into the judge not correct not .
But seeing they are all heading into this dissumlation of a harlots love
THIS SHEEP GONNA WARN ALL NOT TOO do so and to come out from amongst them all .
TO preach JESUS and THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE On HIM and ALL THINGS he did teach
and later the apotsels would teach .
IF one will not do this and IF one alters that pattern , THEY GOING DOWN with the HOUSE
because the leaven only rises . MAKE A ST AND . And have zero hopes in men
in politics , HOPE ONLY IN GOD and HIS CHRIST and let all contend for the one true faith .

 

[amigo de christo]

Then that's good. You received more than just a sample. I was young and foolish when I was first baptized in the Spirit...and I was on my own. The keeping power was there..but I wanted OUT. Too holy for me after a few days. I was too selfish.

The next time was 18 years later...and then I lasted for 2.5 years. That time I lost or fell from grace based on a test I failed...due to a lack of understanding of righteousness. I had an unbalanced view of intimacy with God versus obedience.

You had none of those problems...you just stayed in...which is great.

I believe my own difficulty taught me all the ins and outs, so to speak..where the framework lies...all the pitfalls and the way God judges things. It's for the Body. So I don't feel like an individual so much as a walking lesson on God's ways. I have been learning righteousness these past 25 years or so. Gathering a fellowship of disciples to enter in together.

Epi i seen what you learned . you learned to not only go after those who remind the church
of the dire need to FIRST bELIEVE ON JESUs
you e ven go after those who preach the dire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS to an atheist and call it RELIGOUS extremism .
YOU learned a lie . and you THINK that lie is love , oh you t hink its of GOD . NO IT AINT .
NO sir . And as long as you are here , i am gonn a keep
reminding them all that you do these things . LEST YE REPENT OF IT .

 

[Episkopos]

I had the same experience you had - both at once. The cleansing of fleshly desires from my nature, and the power of God. But it remained. No "leakage."

I had the same experience you had - both at once. The cleansing of fleshly desires from my nature, and the power of God. But it remained. No "leakage."

Out of brotherly curiosity... I have walked at different depths of the Spirit...from walking in the light in Zion with light coming out of my eyes and seeing the holy city whose light shimmered upward. ...to not seeing any light at all but still being filled with the Spirit in a full victory over sin...even my dreams were either visions from the Lord or else just nothing...no invented realities.

So I ask you...in your current state...what perception do you have of being in Zion? Do you see light? Are you filled with joy and peace? Does the Lord speak to you? Do you see visions...at night or during the day?

Help me and others here to understand your walk in the Lord.

 

[shepherdsword]

and yet it sure seems , as you saw yourself , many are running to the one sin
that will damn every last one of them .
EPI is not the only inclusivain , t hough he is much more progressed in it than many are my freind .
IF you want to know who is be led into this inclusive dissumalation .
ANYTHING and one that is connected to the ecumeincal inclusive harlot .
Many just have not yet bought the lie but MANY HAVE already b ought it .
IF we will not make our stand now
and if we decide in any way to judge not correct not , WE ARE GOING DOWN with them all .
THis people should never have bought into seeker friendly .
IT should never have bought into the judge not correct not .
But seeing they are all heading into this dissumlation of a harlots love
THIS SHEEP GONNA WARN ALL NOT TOO do so and to come out from amongst them all .
TO preach JESUS and THE DIRE NEED to BELIEVE On HIM and ALL THINGS he did teach
and later the apotsels would teach .
IF one will not do this and IF one alters that pattern , THEY GOING DOWN with the HOUSE
because the leaven only rises . MAKE A ST AND . And have zero hopes in men
in politics , HOPE ONLY IN GOD and HIS CHRIST and let all contend for the one true faith .

Hi Amigo,
What church do you go to?

 

[amigo de christo]

I never said I was sinless. Practice your own honesty. My testimony is that of the sinless walk as one enters into the kingdom realm of the Spirit...being translated into Zion to walk as Jesus walked in HIS resurrection life.

That is my testimony. The only reason why I'm online is because I am NOT presently walking in that power. I am "between" such higher walks so to speak. When I was in the Spirit I couldn't look at a TV screen or computer screen....it didn't make any sense. I was too busy with the revival of people coming from all over the world to interact with. God is not wasteful...and during our revival period we had guests constantly. So when the revival hits again, all I have to say will already be online in the form of a podcast and the forum.

and i just bet this so called revival will have muslims , hindus , and any other false relgioin
as well as a heap of christendom
ALL holding hands , all beleiving they serve the same God and all finding common ground for world peace .
DID that about sum it up epi .
And you wanna know what you and them all will have in common .
THE BELEIF it was NOT necessary to have had to BELIEVE ON JESUS
and that if perhaps one gave a cup of cold water to a righteous man he was fine .
Now dont try and lie epi
cause i seen what you told the atheist . And i know you know an atheist does not even BELIEVE IN GOD
let alone in Christ .
I ALREADY know that inclusvity believes and what it teaches . THis world is gonna have what IT T HINKS
is an awaking epi , ONLY ITS A STRONG DELSUION upon them all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Hi Amigo,
What church do you go to?

Here we go again . well it aint your church . obviously . cause you and epi getting real cozy .
AND I DO NOT and absolutely will NOT follow inclusivism .
MY church dont accuse those who preach to an athiest or any other false religoin , about the dire need TO have to believe on JESUS ,,
A RELIGOUS extremist . but your man does . OH YES HE DO . you all are being led into a totally false gospel .

 

[Episkopos]

Here we go again . well it aint your church . obviously . cause you and epi getting real cozy .
AND I DO NOT and absolutely will NOT follow inclusivism .
MY church dont accuse those who preach to an athiest or any other false religoin , about the dire need TO have to believe on JESUS ,,
A RELIGOUS extremist . but your man does . OH YES HE DO . you all are being led into a totally false gospel .

He's part of the exclusive brethren. He will deny it of course. They believe anyone who is not part of their religious sect is going to hell.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hi Amigo,
What church do you go to?

just like hey amigo who do you vote for .
You people have your hopes in men my friend .
I get accused for not voting
Okay i c an live with that .
I get accused cause i dont run to just any church
okay i can live with that
NOW i get accused for reminding us all about The DIRE NEED TO HAVE to bELIEVE on JESUS
And even now i am accused of religous extremism for reminding an atheist of his dire need to Beleive on JESUS .
SO no thanks i wont be s itting in yalls inclusive churches . it just keeps getting worse .
just keeps getting worse .