Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Lizbeth]

FOR SURE and for certain .
But many already beleive a lie and this so called awaking they beleive is coming
OH its gonna be inclusive sister .
THEY will b elieve that just because all religoins are joining hands for unity and common ground for peace
THEY ALL SERVING the same GOD .
THEY all are experiencing what THEY SO THINK is the outpouring of the Spirit .
ONLY as you and i both know .
THE SPIRIT TESTIFIES ON JESUS CHRIST , NOT anti christ and its peace plan .
AND by the HOLY SPIRIT what does one call JESUS again . OH YEAH LORD .
And no man b y the SPIRIT would call JESUS accursed . JUST LIKE ALL WHO BELIEVE NOT HE is the CHRIST , the Son of GOD ,
does .
YOU SPOT ON RIGHT SISTER . any true revival and been a revival , NOT a second death sentence o death .
THEY are all being set up sister .
And that is why you see and really will soon see
more and more of all religoins to include christendom
calling men like me religious extremists . AS THEY BELIEVE THEY DO the will of GOD for peace . OH its a delusion all right .

Amen. And I do fear this strong delusion will involve and be centred in the Temple in Jerusalem. I saw where the Temple Institute openly stated their intention to use the Temple to "unite all the religions of the world", many years ago, sadly. It is a way that "seemth right to man" but leads to death.

 

[amigo de christo]

What do you imagine it is talking about? Receiving a righteous man/prophet means receiving and not rejecting his message, right? AKA the gospel. It means receiving the One who sent him. And the reward of course, is eternal life. This is not talking about just welcoming a righteous man over for dinner or a cup of tea.

exactly sister . and no righteous man would preach contrary to THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL .
HE who recieves YOU recieves ME . And HE who recieves me recieves HE who sent me .
HE who recieves IS he who Beleives what they were preaching .
HE who recieves you not , when you leave shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them .
EPI cannot see this implies that those who do not RECiEVE the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , aka
the true gospel , DOES NOT recieve Christ , thus does not recieve God .
Look at what JESUS himself says .
HE who Recieves HIS TESTIMONY has set to his seal that God is TRUE .
but guess what he who believes not the testimony that GOD gave of the son , says , HE cALLS GOD A LIAR
EPI cannot see this . inclusivism has blinded his eyes and taken his heart captive to a lie .
SOUND IT OUT for all to hear . THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD
That HE was crucified for our sins and raised again for our justification .
And if one recieves not that , BELIEVE me sister THEY DO CALL GOD A LIAR . this is why you wont
ever see epi remind the church about having to beleive
NO , nor even a muslim or atheist or etc . HE has been taken captive by the all inclusive lie
that came claoked as love as truth , but was only a lie that , wel lthat darn sure has made
the road to what it says be GOD very darn broad .
SO very broad . And notice that on epis broad inclusive road
THE ONE THING not allowed . The one thing not allowed
and that he even calls RELIGOUS extremism . WHY ITS THE preaching of the dire need to BELIEVE on JESUS .
TALK about a delusion .

 

[GodsGrace]

Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

People just have different perspectives and interpretations of scripture.

That's why there are so many Christian denominations.

LOL
Is this a good thing?
If there can be different interpretations of scripture...
does this mean there can be different truths?

 

[Lizbeth]

Out of brotherly curiosity... I have walked at different depths of the Spirit...from walking in the light in Zion with light coming out of my eyes and seeing the holy city whose light shimmered upward. ...to not seeing any light at all but still being filled with the Spirit in a full victory over sin...even my dreams were either visions from the Lord or else just nothing...no invented realities.

So I ask you...in your current state...what perception do you have of being in Zion? Do you see light? Are you filled with joy and peace? Does the Lord speak to you? Do you see visions...at night or during the day?

Help me and others here to understand your walk in the Lord.

Reminds me of Lucifer before he fell. Clearly from his example, having an experience in the past does not reflect on where a person is now.

 

[GodsGrace]

Stop being so emotional. Your emotions don't bring about the kingdom of God. Nor any truth. You are not paying attention due to your own blindness.

Amigo speaks in ignorance of any reality...almost incoherent at times....with no logic or reason...and always fully out of context. Basically he posts like a raving lunatic. And don't think he's being a fool for God...but rather just a bad witness of an unstable mind spewing forth accusations the way Don Quixote tilted at windmills. His ever present panic leads him to be an accuser of the brethren and condemns others...but you can't see that because for some bizarre reason you have an emotional attachment to this guy . That is fully wrong. And your emotions deceive you just like Eve, the woman. So you are behaving here like a woman...the feminized church. Others also do this.

Until you call Amigo out for his constant slander you are also a worker of iniquity...obviously. You are guilty by association ...a collaborator with the enemy which the flesh and emotionalism.

Amigo is a very nice person,,,,
makes a lot of sense....
understands the word of God...
and conveys what he feels to be the most important aspect of Christianity.
In his case, this would be the maintenance of the purity of the gospel and the teachings of Jesus.

Quite frankly E,,,,
I find him much easier to understand than I do you.
I STILL don't know what your belief system is...
not that it matters...

Your comments are rather slanderous and not befitting a Christian person.

Slander is untruths that hurt/damage someone.

 

[amigo de christo]

LOL
Is this a good thing?
If there can be different interpretations of scripture...
does this mean there can be different truths?

nope . when paul said that ye be likeminded
he was meaning on the pure and holy doctrine of the LORD .
Mark those who cause divisons that are contrary to the Doctrine ye have learned and AVOID those .
He never said find common ground with such .
And they all never said lets all just get along and over look sins .
NOPE . it was he who is a brother who is a fornicator , coveteous , etc , separate them out , keep from their company .
AND LOOK , just lOOK at what they had to say about another gospel .
Paul said if even we , even angel brings any other gospel unto you than which ye had recieved , SEPARATE them out aka
let them be accursed .
And notice what paul said about a heretick . IF after the first and second adomintion he rejects ,
WELL HE DID NOT SAY TO FIND COMMON GROUND for world peace .
Nor did john say , hey if one brings not this doctrine , OH just find common ground for world peace .
HE said dont even let them in your house or even bid them god speed .
And yet i darn sure know for a fact
we have us at the very least ONE among us right now who darn sure uses the words of JESUS
to imply a false inclusvive go spell that is no gospel .
TIME to do as the early church taught . THEY had KNOWN JESUS and they taught His gospel and His words .

 

[Marvelloustime]

seeing i already know what incluisivism teaches about THE SPIRIT
and how it lies and says even the false religoins and etc , even one who does not call upon The name of JESUS
is still following him if they keep his sayings .
BUT OH NO they aint epi , NOR do they have the HOLY SPIRIT .
Because GUESS what
NO MAN CALLS HIM LORD , JESUS LORD , but BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
and no man BY THE HOLY SPIRIT would call him accursed epi .
JUST LIKE EVERYONE who fails to BELEIVE HE IS THE CHRIST does epi .
SO ooopsy INCLUSIVISM LIED TO YOU .
just like it has its own ways of LYING to the false religoins too .
Allowing them to remain in their false religoin and UNBELIEF IN CHRIST .
YOU got sold a lie of anti christ epi . ONLY HE would ever once
have desired the gospel to be removed . cause satan knows
WITHOUT FAITH IN CHRIST can no man b e saved .
I tried to tell you epi , that this inclusvie god
IT DOES NOT LOVE YOU . no it dont , IT uses you .
IT has no love for you , for me or for the false religoins or anyone .
ITS DESIRE is their destreuction , so its gonna preach a lie .

@amigo de christo

 

[Episkopos]

Amigo is a very nice person,,,,
makes a lot of sense....
understands the word of God...
and conveys what he feels to be the most important aspect of Christianity.
In his case, this would be the maintenance of the purity of the gospel and the teachings of Jesus.

Quite frankly E,,,,
I find him much easier to understand than I do you.
I STILL don't know what your belief system is...
not that it matters...

Your comments are rather slanderous and not befitting a Christian person.

Slander is untruths that hurt/damage someone.

I rest my case. You can only see the very few posts I respond to in all his attacks on me. A true Christian person calls out sin. Light exposes darkness. And the religious darkness is the worst kind. Do you only see the devil when he has a pitchfork? Otherwise he smothers people with warm fuzzy feelings...while he destroys the kingdom of God. You can't see that. You are WAYYYYYY too emotional to see any truth. You are like the rioters who loot and destroy.....and then the softies like yourself...who call out the riot police for trying to maintain order as being cruel. The world is in a mess because Christians are acting like woke extremists. So you are an agent of chaos.

Lean not on your own understanding.

Stop attacking the truth.

 

[Marvelloustime]

nope . when paul said that ye be likeminded
he was meaning on the pure and holy doctrine of the LORD .
Mark those who cause divisons that are contrary to the Doctrine ye have learned and AVOID those .
He never said find common ground with such .
And they all never said lets all just get along and over look sins .
NOPE . it was he who is a brother who is a fornicator , coveteous , etc , separate them out , keep from their company .
AND LOOK , just lOOK at what they had to say about another gospel .
Paul said if even we , even angel brings any other gospel unto you than which ye had recieved , SEPARATE them out aka
let them be accursed .
And notice what paul said about a heretick . IF after the first and second adomintion he rejects ,
WELL HE DID NOT SAY TO FIND COMMON GROUND for world peace .
Nor did john say , hey if one brings not this doctrine , OH just find common ground for world peace .
HE said dont even let them in your house or even bid them god speed .
And yet i darn sure know for a fact
we have us at the very least ONE among us right now who darn sure uses the words of JESUS
to imply a false inclusvive go spell that is no gospel .
TIME to do as the early church taught . THEY had KNOWN JESUS and they taught His gospel and His words .

@amigo de christo

 

[Episkopos]

LOL
Is this a good thing?
If there can be different interpretations of scripture...
does this mean there can be different truths?

It is with this kind of loose attachment to the truth that the devil has taken control. LOL?

 

[amigo de christo]

I rest my case. You can only see the very few posts I respond to in all his attacks on me. A true Christian person calls out sin. Light exposes darkness. And the religious darkness is the worst kind. Do you only see the devil when he has a pitchfork? Otherwise he smothers people with warm fuzzy feelings...while he destroys the kingdom of God. You can't see that. You are WAYYYYYY too emotional to see any truth. You are like the rioters loot and destroy.....and then who call out the riot police for trying to maintain order as being cruel. The world is in a mess because Christians are acting like woke extremists. So you are an agent of chaos.

Lean not on your own understanding.

Stop attacking the truth.

yes epi a true person does indeed call out sin and does not allow sin upon them .
You know darn well i have long exposed sins , errors within the church .
But do watch out epi .
Because while i do e xpose sins that means i will expose the SIN of all sins . A false gopsel
that wont preach the dire necessity for to beleive on JESUS . HELLO that is why i will also expose
this inclusive socially constructed other gospel you seem so fixiated upon epi .
You expose certain sins , SURE
and yet you LEAVE the ONE SIN
as in this one to remain . IF YE BELIEVE NOT , BELIEVE NOT , BELEIVE NOT that I AM HE
ye shall die in YOUR SINS .
YOU silence those who preach the dire necessity to believe on JESUS and as b ad as that is to do
You even call it religious ext remism . Epi you must abandon this lie.
My desire is for your good and not your destruction . but epi you are a danger to the church .
And until you repent of that other gospel i have no choice but to warn against you .
REpent EPI ,REPENT for why will ye die . God is merciful and full of forgivness . but you must repent
and cease from this other gospel now . PREACH BOTH THE DIRE NECEISSITY TO BELIEVE ON JESUS
and all things he did teach . YE cannot have one without the o ther epi .

 

[Marvelloustime]

yes epi a true person does indeed call out sin and does not allow sin upon them .
You know darn well i have long exposed sins , errors within the church .
But do watch out epi .
Because while i do e xpose sins that means i will expose the SIN of all sins . A false gopsel
that wont preach the dire necessity for to beleive on JESUS . HELLO that is why i will also expose
this inclusive socially constructed other gospel you seem so fixiated upon epi .
You expose certain sins , SURE
and yet you LEAVE the ONE SIN
as in this one to remain . IF YE BELIEVE NOT , BELIEVE NOT , BELEIVE NOT that I AM HE
ye shall die in YOUR SINS .
YOU silence those who preach the dire necessity to believe on JESUS and as b ad as that is to do
You even call it religious ext remism . Epi you must abandon this lie.
My desire is for your good and not your destruction . but epi you are a danger to the church .
And until you repent of that other gospel i have no choice but to warn against you .
REpent EPI ,REPENT for why will ye die . God is merciful and full of forgivness . but you must repent
and cease from this other gospel now . PREACH BOTH THE DIRE NECEISSITY TO BELIEVE ON JESUS
and all things he did teach . YE cannot have one without the o ther epi .

@amigo de christo

 

[GodsGrace]

I rest my case. You can only see the very few posts I respond to in all his attacks on me. A true Christian person calls out sin. Light exposes darkness. And the religious darkness is the worst kind. Do you only see the devil when he has a pitchfork? Otherwise he smothers people with warm fuzzy feelings...while he destroys the kingdom of God. You can't see that. You are WAYYYYYY too emotional to see any truth. You are like the rioters who loot and destroy.....and then the softies like yourself...who call out the riot police for trying to maintain order as being cruel. The world is in a mess because Christians are acting like woke extremists. So you are an agent of chaos.

Lean not on your own understanding.

Stop attacking the truth.

Oh E
What makes you think you know me?
YOU seem to be doing some destroying on these here threads.

You remind me of my SIL...nice girl. Christian.
She said God told her she would be a peacemaker.

Never did get along with the rest of the family too well.
When there was trouble or hurt feelings.....she was right there.

She wanted to call upon sin too.
Jesus said to forgive...it would be like heaping burning coals on a person.
Even IF you believe the other member is evil.....
what we Christians do is forgive and not slander him on an open thread.

Jesus teaches,,,in Matthew to go to your brother...
not to place the problem in the Jerusalem Daily News.

IF there even is a problem.

 

[GodsGrace]

It is with this kind of loose attachment to the truth that the devil has taken control. LOL?

I couldn't agree more.

Christianity seems to be going to hell in a hand basket.

 

[Episkopos]

yes epi a true person does indeed call out sin and does not allow sin upon them .
You know darn well i have long exposed sins , errors within the church .

You are part of the error of the church...that's why the church is failing. You are blind to your true condition.

But do watch out epi .
Because while i do e xpose sins that means i will expose the SIN of all sins . A false gopsel

You don't know the gospel. You only know what the pulpiteers have told you the gospel is...by taking certain verses fully OUT OF CONTEXT and creating an easy peasy grace religion based on religious beliefs and lip service. You are a poster child for that mess.

that wont preach the dire necessity for to beleive on JESUS . HELLO that is why i will also expose

You don't even know what that is....Jesus says to obey Him....so you say I'm calling God a liar for saying that. You are definitely a worker of iniquity. And the emotionalism in the church means they will listen to you because I'm the one calling out their comfortable lies.

this inclusive socially constructed other gospel you seem so fixiated upon epi .

You are fixated on an extremist exclusive sect or cult that condemns all whom Jesus died for. And as long as the blind emotional ones can parrot your religious slogans with you...they will all suffer the same fate as you.

You expose certain sins , SURE

All sins...and yours...

and yet you LEAVE the ONE SIN
as in this one to remain . IF YE BELIEVE NOT , BELIEVE NOT , BELEIVE NOT that I AM HE
ye shall die in YOUR SINS .

You are not thinking clearly. I am a disciple of Christ. You are a pretender that thinks God is looking for lip service.

YOU silence those who preach the dire necessity to believe on JESUS and as b ad as that is to do

I call out religious nuts who cause the world to blaspheme the true God.

You even call it religious ext remism . Epi you must abandon this lie.

You are an exclusive extremist who thinks the gospel is in reciting certain beliefs. And because you are many who work iniquity...you think you are safe because of your numbers. That's how the devil wins...the opinions of the majority. As long as he can rally all the different factions against the truth...then the divided ones have served his evil design.

My desire is for your good and not your destruction . but epi you are a danger to the church .

The church is already in dire need to turn back to God. Unless you repent you will perish. Unless the church at large repents it will be spit out of the mouth of Jesus. read the sign of the times.

 

[ProDeo]

pro deo . HE also already knows i preach against dead faith .
His problem is my reminder that one must FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS .
IF i had said nothing about having to First believe on JESUS
and yet warned against this ungodly behavoir going on in many churches , EPI would have crowned me king .
THE ONLY and i do mean THE ONLY reason
he comes after me , IS DUE TO MY REMINDER of the dire necesity to beleive on JESUS .
And i know he will of course try and twist even what i tell you now .
SO for proof and etc , YOU GO see what he called me when i was found preaching JESUS , the dire need
to BELIEVE on JESUS to even an atheist . HE called it religious extremism .
That is the only and soul reason epi comes after me and accuses me falsely .
You see I KNOW that without JESUS CHRIST , and thus faith in HIM , WELL i can do absolutely nothing
cept fail and cannot even save myself . Epi preaches inclusvism .
I preach JESUS CHRIST . that is why he has a problem with me my freind
because i will not budge an inch . nor does epi budge an inch .

Reading Acts and how the apostles preached the Gospel the keyword is : REPENT. If you have preached repentance in the thread of the atheist you have done well. There are other starting points as well talking to atheists, such as paving the way first and then tell the Gospel. A great example in Acts 17:22-23 (Paul Addresses the Areopagus) or the whole of Acts 26 (before Agrippa).

 

[Episkopos]

Oh E
What makes you think you know me?
YOU seem to be some destroying on these here threads.

Stop with the emotionalism. You are not used to truth tellers....they are not allowed in the churches anymore. everything now is flowers and rainbows. If there are not enough flowers and rainbows to give, then people will go down the road to another church that does. That is the way of Babylon.

You remind me of my SIL...nice girl. Christian.
She said God told her she would be a peacemaker.

Never did get along with the rest of the family too well.
When there was trouble or hurt feelings.....she was right there.

She wanted to call upon sin too.
Jesus said to forgive...it would be like heaping burning coals on a person.
Even IF you believe the other member is evil.....
what we Christians do is forgive and not slander him on an open thread.

Jesus teaches,,,in Matthew to go to your brother...
not to place the problem in the Jerusalem Daily News.

IF there even is a problem.

I get attacked daily here for my witness of Christ. It's a public forum. Get over your emotions already.

 

[Episkopos]

Reading Acts and how the apostles preached the Gospel the keyword is : REPENT. If you have preached repentance in the thread of the atheist you have done well. There are other starting points as well talking to atheists, such as paving the way first and then tell the Gospel. A great example in Acts 17:22-23 (Paul Addresses the Areopagus) or the whole of Acts 26 (before Agrippa).

Paul said I have become all things to all men so that I may win some. I call out people who repeat the same slogans to all men so that men might blaspheme God...but you have an emotional attachment to the slogans....right? So who cares if the atheist thinks Christians are idiots, right? We can chalk it up to persecution. Such hypocrisy.

 

[Episkopos]

I couldn't agree more.

Christianity seems to be going to hell in a hand basket.

But you applaud the deception. You are part of the problem....can you see that? Judging with your emotional understanding....you become an enemy of the cross. Let go your imagination and follow Christ into HIS reproach. Right now you are so nice that the devil smiles on you....you are no threat at all...in fact he can use you when the riot police try to establish order....you can call them "cruel" ...Poor things.

Have you ever counted the real cost of following Christ? Or have you just responded to an altar call?

 

[Episkopos]

When I speak the unveiled truth, the lukewarm come out of the woodwork to give their feeble false outrage. It's pathetic.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we warn men (and women, and men who act like women)