69,195 reasons I am NOT a christian Zionist

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US President Donald Trump says he is giving Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu his full political support in the parliamentary elections on October 27. Article.

This seems to be a problem.

Trump has done a lotta good....but on the otter hand.....
 
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Trump has done a lotta good....but on the otter hand.....
They will always do some things that seem good, to blind the eyes of the spiritually gullible. An example is a man who is very verbal about how evil rapists are ....meanwhile, secretly, he is sexually abusing his own children. I've seen it. And Trump fits this profile (as do many politicians).
 
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We, as the believers in the Messiah, Jesus Christ, are the descendants of Abraham. We are his seed, his children. Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness. We become Abraham's seed when WE believe God, by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. When a Jew (whether Ashkenazi, Khazarian, or a genetic Judean) believes on Jesus Christ, they too are Abraham's seed that is spoken of in scripture.

Brother, what about the Christians in Palestine who are actually of Judean descent, being murdered by Israel? Is that okay??

I do not believe God is blessing the murdering and genocides being carried out by Israel and the United States.
Did you read post #53 ???

From Post 53
the same SIN that is upon the Jews for taking vengance is also upon Islam/Koran/Shariah law followers.

GOD has concluded all under sin = Galatians 3:22

New International Version
But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

New Living Translation
But the Scriptures declare that we are all prisoners of sin, so we receive God’s promise of freedom only by believing in Jesus Christ.

English Standard Version
But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Berean Standard Bible
But the Scripture pronounces all things confined by sin, so that by faith in Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those who believe.

Berean Literal Bible
But the Scripture shut in all things under sin, so that by faith from Jesus Christ the promise might be given to those believing.

King James Bible
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
 

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We, as the believers in the Messiah, Jesus Christ, are the descendants of Abraham. We are his seed, his children. Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness. We become Abraham's seed when WE believe God, by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. When a Jew (whether Ashkenazi, Khazarian, or a genetic Judean) believes on Jesus Christ, they too are Abraham's seed that is spoken of in scripture.

Brother, what about the Christians in Palestine who are actually of Judean descent, being murdered by Israel? Is that okay??

I do not believe God is blessing the murdering and genocides being carried out by Israel and the United States.
Today, Christians and many others are being persecuted and murdered by:
Muslims
Jews
socialists
communists
capitalists
atheists
Big Pharma
Politicians/Newsom/Hochul/Mandami and others
RCC/Vatican
globalists
satanists and the World Bankers/Controllers


Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. - 2 Timothy 2:19
 
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From what I have learned over the last little while... Hamas was created by Israel in the 1970 to counteract the regime of Yasser Arafat in Gaza. So Jim, I like ya but the concept isn't retarded. It's what actually happened.

The irony of this history is that Israel now seeks to destroy the very organization it helped cultivate.

So, what eventually happened? They say a false flag.... Israel deliberately stood down on October 7, 2023, permitting Hamas to carry out its devastating attack when the Israel defense "stood down for 6 hours". This gave the Israelis the right to go bomb the living daylights out of Gaza...for the sake of creating a portion of the "Greater Israel".

@TLHKAJ is right...


But why stop there? Netanyahu then attacked Lebanon destroying neighborhoods. Many of those neighborhoods being Christian. So, besides killing christians in Gaza...they also killed christians in Lebanon. Using American tax-payers money, USA weapons...and get this, the support of the Zionist christian churches in America.


That is true....But the Kabbalah Jews running Israel, AIPAC following the talmud...looking for the Noahide laws...third temple.....those who see you as goyim....see your Jesus as a false prophet currently in hell.

But, my Christian Zionist friends say I should bless Israel and not curse them...give them what they need or I'm cursing them. I think they fail to realize who is actually in control of Israel. We can read a bit about them in Rev 3:9.

Yes, as christians we should have compassion towards the Jews....but when you point your finger at the Kabbal Jews you're called an antisemite.
I don't know, but Israel and Judah as nation states have frequently turned from God and God has made promises, He didnt abolish the law and prophets, Jesus fulfilled them. The elephant in the room here is Islam.
 

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Good Morning Jim and @Nancy and @TLHKAJ and all

Does Israel/Jews have a Right to Exist?

What does GOD Say???

This is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: “When I restore them from captivity, they will once again speak this word in the land of Judah and in its cities: ‘May the LORD bless you, O righteous dwelling place, O holy mountain.’ 24And Judah and all its cities will dwell together in the land, the farmers and those who move with the flocks, 25for I will refresh the weary soul and replenish all who are weak.”

Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day, who sets in order the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name:

36“Only if this fixed order departed from My presence,
declares the LORD,
would Israel’s descendants ever cease
to be a nation before Me.”
37This is what the LORD says:
“Only if the heavens above could be measured
and the foundations of the earth below searched out
would I reject all of Israel’s descendants
because of all they have done,

Hi David!
I too was a staunch Zionist believing that I would be cursed if I did not bless the State of "Israel". But when I decided, firmly to pray and seek the Truth, I was and am still in shock at what I have and are still finding out. There is SO much I had to recant in my own life, and repent of. It has involved a ton of reading, testing and re-learning many things that Satan's lies have indoctrinated the modern churches with. And all this in just the last 3 years alone.

I believe God has led me into all truth because I hunger for it and love it. He has also given me the humility to be teachable and to be able to say I changed my belief when I learn things contrary to what the scriptures say. I'm no super Christian, lol...I lack much of what I wish to be In Christ yet, just knowing that God knows my heart soothes me, despite what anyone else thinks.

The below is just a tiny sample of the things I have looked into, prayed about, and studied that has given me an entirely different take on the scriptures involved here. We will never hear these things in many of churches today so...like most Christians today, they listen to a pastor or teacher and , if saying something over and over again the hearers WILL come to believe it.

I hope you can look into some of these questions. The ones listed in the articles are just an introduction and a history lesson we will NEVER hear from the pulpits.
It doesn't matter if you do or do not check them out, I still love you! :ntmetu

I love you brother!

WHO ARE THE ISRAELITES
Table of Contents


"2. Why do true Torah Jews oppose (Hate) Zionism? - Intro 3. Why was the New World Order pledged to the Jews? 5. Starting with the basics 7. Exposing DNA genetic research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) 9. Who are the Jewish Khazars (Revelation 3:9) 15. Why does the U.S. give Israel 10 million a day? 17. Is it all a coincidence... or a detailed Luciferian script? 18. Why was WW3 between the Zionists & Islam predicted in 1871? 20. Understanding the Talmud 21. Understanding the origin of the Babylonian Talmud 22. Why the different definitions of a Jew? 24. Are we being cursed by blessing Israel? 26. Is Israel really God’s prophetic time clock? 27. Star of David... or Star of Remphan (Molech - 27. Star of David... or Star of Remphan (Molech - Acts 7:43)? 28. Understanding the Zionists’ creation of Israel 32. Exposing the greatest holocaust ever (The Bolshevik Revolution) 35. Was the restoration of Israel prophetically significant? 37. Why is it so confusing? (Understanding the 2 Houses of Israel) 40. The origin of the word “Gentile” 43. The Vatican’s role in dispensationalism 44. Scofield & The Grand Deception 46. Why were the Nazis honoring the Jews in 1933? 47. Questions and answers summary 53. “Children of the promise” - Summary 54. Anglo-Israel truth: Is it a new doctrine?
56. The ultimate paradox"

By Jana Benuun
Substack
 

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Hi David!
I too was a staunch Zionist believing that I would be cursed if I did not bless the State of "Israel". But when I decided, firmly to pray and seek the Truth, I was and am still in shock at what I have and are still finding out. There is SO much I had to recant in my own life, and repent of. It has involved a ton of reading, testing and re-learning many things that Satan's lies have indoctrinated the modern churches with. And all this in just the last 3 years alone.

I believe God has led me into all truth because I hunger for it and love it. He has also given me the humility to be teachable and to be able to say I changed my belief when I learn things contrary to what the scriptures say. I'm no super Christian, lol...I lack much of what I wish to be In Christ yet, just knowing that God knows my heart soothes me, despite what anyone else thinks.

The below is just a tiny sample of the things I have looked into, prayed about, and studied that has given me an entirely different take on the scriptures involved here. We will never hear these things in many of churches today so...like most Christians today, they listen to a pastor or teacher and , if saying something over and over again the hearers WILL come to believe it.

I hope you can look into some of these questions. The ones listed in the articles are just an introduction and a history lesson we will NEVER hear from the pulpits.
It doesn't matter if you do or do not check them out, I still love you! :ntmetu

I love you brother!

WHO ARE THE ISRAELITES
Table of Contents


"2. Why do true Torah Jews oppose (Hate) Zionism? - Intro 3. Why was the New World Order pledged to the Jews? 5. Starting with the basics 7. Exposing DNA genetic research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) 9. Who are the Jewish Khazars (Revelation 3:9) 15. Why does the U.S. give Israel 10 million a day? 17. Is it all a coincidence... or a detailed Luciferian script? 18. Why was WW3 between the Zionists & Islam predicted in 1871? 20. Understanding the Talmud 21. Understanding the origin of the Babylonian Talmud 22. Why the different definitions of a Jew? 24. Are we being cursed by blessing Israel? 26. Is Israel really God’s prophetic time clock? 27. Star of David... or Star of Remphan (Molech - 27. Star of David... or Star of Remphan (Molech - Acts 7:43)? 28. Understanding the Zionists’ creation of Israel 32. Exposing the greatest holocaust ever (The Bolshevik Revolution) 35. Was the restoration of Israel prophetically significant? 37. Why is it so confusing? (Understanding the 2 Houses of Israel) 40. The origin of the word “Gentile” 43. The Vatican’s role in dispensationalism 44. Scofield & The Grand Deception 46. Why were the Nazis honoring the Jews in 1933? 47. Questions and answers summary 53. “Children of the promise” - Summary 54. Anglo-Israel truth: Is it a new doctrine?
56. The ultimate paradox"

By Jana Benuun
Substack
Much of what you posted has already been revealed to my spirit as well.

45 years ago i was telling the brethren that the Jewish Star on their flag is the star of Remphan

Israel of the flesh are the ones who will and are developing the MoB - with other nations/USA

Thus why the Data Centers are being built.

This is why GOD Said that HE will draw the nations against Israel = The Day of Jacob's Trouble = Zech 14:1-2

Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;


When the Judgment upon them is complete, the LORD will Descend for the Remnat HE is Saving

Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,


YES Dear Sister in CHRIST = You are greatly loved and have been and are a real encouragment to this David.
Thank You

PLEASE pray for my son Daniel (20) for his health has greatly deteriated the last two years and we are greatly concerned and in sorrow.