Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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In the context of humanity this is true...and for all people this should be the golden rule...to love others as ourselves without pride or sensitive feelings. And this works very well until confronted by the truth. The truth takes no prisoners and is above us all. Jesus is the truth. He is the way. As such we will be judged in how we submitted ourselves to the truth. Those who don't submit to the truth do not submit themselves to Christ no matter what else they may say.

The problem with maintaining ONLY a righteous standard is that the good gets in the way of the perfect. People hold on to opinions as if their very lives depended on them. So all of what you say will be used as a shield against the truth as in...how DARE you talk down to me as if I wasn't as spiritual as you are. So the flesh gets a hold of the common idea of righteousness and turns it against the truth. The sin of Korah was such. And God killed them all. It goes...how dare you be over us, know God more than us, have more understanding than us!!!!???

So pride works both sides against the middle....and all with the supposition that we are all the same...which of course we are not.
In 2 Corinthians 13:7–11, Paul says, “That ye should do that which is honest,” and, “For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.”

But what truth is Paul speaking of here? Honest and true?

I think of what the Lord told Paul concerning his thorn in the flesh: “My strength is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9).

Paul was willing to be weak in the eyes of others if it meant that the truth would prevail and the body of Christ would be edified rather than destroyed. He was not concerned with appearing approved, but with their doing what was right. His desire was not to prove his own strength or authority, but to see them made strong, even if that meant he appeared weak.

Could this be the very truth Paul is standing for? That God’s strength is made perfect in weakness, and that the power given to us by the Lord is for edification, not destruction?

Paul says he is glad when he is weak and they are strong, because his aim is their perfection. He would rather see them walk in truth, grow into maturity, and be strengthened in Christ than preserve his own appearance of strength or approval.

How are they made strong?

So perhaps doing what is honest means being willing to appear as a reprobate in the eyes of others, if necessary, rather than compromise the truth. For we can do nothing against the truth, but only for it.

The question is not whether we appear strong, approved, or right in the eyes of men. The question is whether what we do serves the truth of God and builds up His people rather than destroys them.

And that is why Paul concludes by calling them to be perfected, comforted, united, and at peace. For the God of love and peace is with those whose aim is not destruction, but edification.
 

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They sold their possessions willingly (not under obligation)
No obligation, only if you wanted to and what you handed over was up to you ?
Are you sure ? :)
Please quote the passages.
Yes, I'm sure.

Acts 2:44-47 (KJV)
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

There's no hint of obligation here; however, the decider comes later.

Acts 5:1-11
1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

The issue here was not that Ananias and Sapphira kept part of price for themselves, but that they lied about it (pretending that the money they handed over was the full price). As Peter said, it was their own; and, after it was sold, the money was still in their power.
 

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Very well stated!

James 3:13 KJV
Who is wise and intelligent among you? let him shew out of the good behaviour his works in meekness of wisdom,

Much love!
Another on my mind this morning is 1 Corinthians 13:1-6
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. [
[2] And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
[3] And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profits me nothing. [4] Charity sufferers long, and is kind; charity envies not; charity vaunts not itself, is not puffed up, [5] Does not behave itself unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil; [6] rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;

…rejoices in the truth.
if the truth is all of the above tells us what Spirit Christ is of…that is hopeful!
 
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May I direct your attention to this post:

As I say, your misunderstanding stems from the unfortunate use of 'sin nature' for 'flesh' propagated in the church by early editions of the NIV. My most cherished possession is my 1978 version of the NIV, so I'm not knocking the NIV. We just have to be aware of where it has provided occasion for misunderstanding. I'm not opposed to the use of the phrase, as long as it is understood what it means.
Yes. I used to have an early edition of the N.I.V.; but I got rid of it, because of mistranslations like the above ("sinful nature" instead of "flesh"), omissions and alterations, some of which are very serious (and some remain in later editions).
 
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In 2 Corinthians 13:7–11, Paul says, “That ye should do that which is honest,” and, “For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.”

But what truth is Paul speaking of here? Honest and true?

I think of what the Lord told Paul concerning his thorn in the flesh: “My strength is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9).

This is before God. God perfects us through suffering and weakness. The wisdom that is from above is a full surrender into God's ways..His peace, His rule.
Paul was willing to be weak in the eyes of others if it meant that the truth would prevail and the body of Christ would be edified rather than destroyed.

Paul was weak in body but strong in word. His exhortations were meant to bring life...not to the flesh but to the inner man. Those who can't discern between the inner man and outer man will always resist the truth and use their humanity as an excuse.
He was not concerned with appearing approved, but with their doing what was right. His desire was not to prove his own strength or authority, but to see them made strong, even if that meant he appeared weak.

Could this be the very truth Paul is standing for? That God’s strength is made perfect in weakness, and that the power given to us by the Lord is for edification, not destruction?

Read Jeremiah chapter 1. The prophet first destroys before he builds. If the people submit to the truth of God's ways then God intervenes directly. Otherwise He will let the people remain in their delusion...as nice as they might be.
Paul says he is glad when he is weak and they are strong, because his aim is their perfection.

Their INNER MAN perfection...not their human perfection. The rebel is looking for affirmation IN THEIR SINS.
He would rather see them walk in truth, grow into maturity, and be strengthened in Christ than preserve his own appearance of strength or approval.

Of course. A truth teller risks being hated for the sake of the truth. Jesus was put on a cross for speaking the truth. All who are of the truth hear His voice. But ALL resist the truth...at least at first. Few allow the truth to offend them.
How are they made strong?

Strong in what? Opinions? Pride?
So perhaps doing what is honest means being willing to appear as a reprobate in the eyes of others, if necessary, rather than compromise the truth. For we can do nothing against the truth, but only for it.

Amen
The question is not whether we appear strong, approved, or right in the eyes of men. The question is whether what we do serves the truth of God and builds up His people rather than destroys them.

And that is why Paul concludes by calling them to be perfected, comforted, united, and at peace. For the God of love and peace is with those whose aim is not destruction, but edification.
And my prayer is that more on the forum would receive the truth in humility rather than name calling and rebelling against the very words of Jesus. :)

Peace
 

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Yes. I used to have an early edition of the N.I.V.; but I got rid of it, because of mistranslations like the above ("sinful nature" instead of "flesh"), omissions and alterations, some of which are very serious (and some remain in later editions).
Not to mention "aphesis" being translated as "forgiveness" rather than "freedom."
 

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Paul's famous struggle with sin in Romans 7 does apply to us because it describes the effort to keep God's commandments apart from the power of the Spirit. Just because a person has the Holy Spirit in salvation doesn't mean they know how to avail themselves of the power of the Spirit to please God.

Romans 7 is a message for, both, people who have turned to the Lord but have yet to be born again, and people who are born again and have the Spirit but have yet to learn about and employ the Spirit within them to rescue them from the temptations and enticements of the flesh. That's why he had to write Romans 8 to the church. Believers have to be educated about this. Believers grow through knowledge.
Romans 7:14-25 is mans struggle to keep the Law while still having "the flesh." The flesh/carnal nature was in opposition to the Law. This is why Jesus takes away the carnal flesh and writes His laws on our heart. If anyone still relates to these verses, they haven't been born again of the Spirit.
 

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You are missing the point here. The power of the flesh works through the body just like the Spirit does. This is a rebuttal of Gnosticism which believes that the body is unimportant. But whether we are led by the flesh or the Spirit our bodies are animated by these forces so that we act very differently. You can't live "after the body" since both the flesh and the Spirit affect the body. The body is the RECIPIENT of the animation not the originator. The body is animated either by the flesh ...to sinfulness...making it a body of death...or else by the Spirit...to obedience...giving it victory over the flesh and preserving the body.

There is a proper balance to consider.
The flesh (in this context) IS the physical body. That is the point. It has sinful cravings and thoughts (the brain being part of the body). Paul calls it "this body of death", in Rom. 7.

In a born again Christian, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
 
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Sister, Romans clearly speaks about our sins being covered....that is what is happening when our sins/iniquities not being imputed to us. It is the Lord covering us with his garment as our heavenly husband. Not because we deserve it or have earned it, because we haven't....but to show the greatness, selflessness and loveliness of His mercy, for the glory of His name.

One example of an inadvertent sin might be if a believer hits their thumb with a hammer and blurts out a swear word. Another type of inadvertent sin might be personality flaws or habits that a person isn't even aware that they have.

But nobody should impose our own spiritual experience or walk on others, because every individual soul has an individual race marked out for them, in the will of the Lord. He isn't judging in absolutes....that is clear where it says the last shall be first and the first last, and who has been forgiven much loves much. There's an old saying which says it isn't whether we win or lose, it's how we play the game that counts......well I believe that is true of our walk/battle of faith.....it isn't about "arriving", it's more about how we are running our race that determines the prize. And it so happens that some have an easier battle and others more difficult etc...but God takes everything into account..

When the Israelites entered the Promised Land the Lord said He wouldn't give their enemies into their hands all at once, but little by little.........lest the wild beasts take over the land....that was and is God's wonderful wise wisdom. Wild beasts speaks to the fallen nature and I believe speaks especially to the wild beast of pride.

I believe it is just necessary for us to be battling our way through....much like it is necessary for a butterfly to battle it's way out of the cocoon otherwise it wouldn't be able to fly. The suffering in our battles helps to purge us.....and battling helps to grow humility in us..... it also teaches us to rely on God not on ourselves.......even mistakes that we make along the way can serve to humble us.....and we can learn from and be strengthened by them. We get to know ourselves in the battling too. These things are all part of God's wisdom for leading us through battles and not just gifting us entire and complete victory without having to do battle and pay a price.

Yes, I certainly believe that the Lord is able to take away all our sins, problems and shortcomings in an instant if He should so will......all things are possible with God. When I came to faith in Christ He took away some of my sins automatically in the beginning, but not all, and different people have different testimonies. Taking away all our sins and shortcomings automatically in the beginning just isn't how He is working in every individual's life, lest we be spoiled by it and fail to grow in strength and understanding and begin to be proud, etc. Lucifer was given everything......he was apparently just created perfect and had no battles to fight.......and then pride caused him to fall. Pretty sure that was written so we could learn from it.

I consider that each individual is only responsible for their own corner of the battlefield, to follow/obey the Lord as and how HE is leading them on their individual journey and race. Some might be blessed to walk in complete victory and the full stature of Christ in this life others may not. Some may just taste of it. We are each HIS workmanship. I sincerely question that it is an absolute must for everyone, and I believe that presenting it that way, as an absolute, is not being in spirit with it. I even suspect this may be why holiness movements of the past failed.
You should be a writer. That was lovely.
 
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Romans 7:14-25 is mans struggle to keep the Law while still having "the flesh." The flesh/carnal nature was in opposition to the Law. This is why Jesus takes away the carnal flesh and writes His laws on our heart. If anyone still relates to these verses, they haven't been born again of the Spirit.
They may have been born of the Spirit but they have realized that they need to be filled with the Spirit (extra oil for their lamp) in order to DISPLACE the sin nature in them....rendering it ineffective.
 

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Not to mention "aphesis" being translated as "forgiveness" rather than "freedom."
Which verse(s) did you have in mind?

Here's one example of the use of "aphesis".

Mark 3:29 (N.I.V.) but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

Here are Strong's and Thayer's Lexicon's (an electronic version, keyed to Strong's numbers) entries for "aphesis" .

[*Thayer*]
859 aphesis {af'-es-is} from 863 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty

[*StrongsGreek*]
859 aphesis af'-es-is from 863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon:--deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission. see GREEK for 863

In my view, "forgiveness" is correct here, and "freedom" would be obscure.
 
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Romans 7:14-25 is mans struggle to keep the Law while still having "the flesh." The flesh/carnal nature was in opposition to the Law. This is why Jesus takes away the carnal flesh and writes His laws on our heart. If anyone still relates to these verses, they haven't been born again of the Spirit.
This is refuted by 3 words, which Paul repeats. When the Bible repeats something we should listen, should we not? Even if only once, yes?

Romans 7:17
Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.


Romans 7:20
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Until you understand the sayings of these verses you will not understand about sin in the redeemed.

Paul claims that he was the sinner, but now is not, while sin still lives in his flesh. Not some ephemeral "sin nature", no, his body of flesh. That is the way the Bible speaks.

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Which verse(s) did you have in mind?

Here's one example of the use of "aphesis".

Mark 3:29 (N.I.V.) but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

Here are Strong's and Thayer's Lexicon's (an electronic version, keyed to Strong's numbers) entries for "aphesis" .

[*Thayer*]
859 aphesis {af'-es-is} from 863 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty

[*StrongsGreek*]
859 aphesis af'-es-is from 863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon:--deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission. see GREEK for 863

In my view, "forgiveness" is correct here, and "freedom" would be obscure.
Yes, those who teach falsely often ignore context.

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Which verse(s) did you have in mind?

Here's one example of the use of "aphesis".

Mark 3:29 (N.I.V.) but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

Here are Strong's and Thayer's Lexicon's (an electronic version, keyed to Strong's numbers) entries for "aphesis" .

[*Thayer*]
859 aphesis {af'-es-is} from 863 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty

[*StrongsGreek*]
859 aphesis af'-es-is from 863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon:--deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission. see GREEK for 863

In my view, "forgiveness" is correct here, and "freedom" would be obscure.
In your opinion? Do you realize that the bible goes back farther than you? Do you realize that the Hebrew scriptures predate the New Testament? Do you realize that Jesus came to fulfill the scriptures and actually quotes them? Do you realize that we get the word "aphesis" from the Septuagint? Do you realize that the gospel is stated in Is 61:1 and that the New testament account of Jesus reading it is in the context of setting the prisoners FREE. The Hebrew is DEROR which ONLY means freedom, because the Jews had no need to add in another definition.

So then your opinion based on one verse does not negate the WHOLE bible and the words of Jesus. I am thinking that your whole walk is just like the other pretenders here.

Why are you so obstinate in your lack of understanding? What does it give you? Affirmation? Certainly not any contact with God.
 
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In your opinion? Do you realize that the bible goes back farther than you? Do you realize that the Hebrew scriptures predate the New Testament? Do you realize that Jesus came to fulfill the scriptures and actually quotes them? Do you realize that we get the word "aphesis" from the Septuagint? Do you realize that the gospel is stated in Is 61:1 and that the New testament account of Jesus reading it is in the context of setting the prisoners FREE. The Hebrew is DEROR which ONLY means freedom, because the Jews had no need to add in another definition.

So then your opinion based on one verse does not negate the WHOLE bible and the words of Jesus. I am thinking that your whole walk is just like the other pretenders here.

Why are you so obstinate in your lack of understanding? What does it give you? Affirmation? Certainly not any contact with God.
Yikes! Overreacting much?

The New Testament was inspired in Koine Greek, not Hebrew; but, the reason why I asked you which verse(s) you had in mind, is precisely because you might have been thinking about a context in which "freedom" is correct, and I didn't want to pre-judge. I gave one example of where I believe that "forgiven" is correct, but that was not intended as proof that all examples mean "forgiven".

Yes, Jesus came to set the captives free. I know that, so show some verses where "aphesis" definitely means "freedom", rather than ranting for no good reason.

You know nothing about my walk with Jesus, just as I know nothing about yours (and a few Internet posts are not very reliable evidence, especially since the likelihood of some misunderstanding is quite high).
 
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This is before God. God perfects us through suffering and weakness. The wisdom that is from above is a full surrender into God's ways..His peace, His rule.


I’m not sure I understand what you mean by saying this is “before God.” Are you referring to the Corinthians being brought before God to recognize Christ revealed in Paul, whose strength is made perfect in weakness?

The Corinthians wanted proof that Christ was speaking through Paul. Yet Paul expresses confidence that they will come to recognize the truth, even though they may not yet see it.

2 Corinthians 13:6–7:

“But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.”

Notice Paul’s heart here. He is not primarily concerned with proving himself approved in their eyes. He prays that they will do what is right and honest, even if that means he himself appears to be disapproved.

This is where I see the mind of Christ being revealed in Paul. He is not seeking his own vindication but their spiritual good. He trusts God to work in them, leading them toward what is right.

This also brings Romans 1:28 to mind, where Paul speaks of those who refused to retain God in their knowledge and were given over to a reprobate mind, to do things that are not convenient.

The contrast is important. Paul is not encouraging the Corinthians to justify themselves or follow what is convenient to them. He is urging them toward what is right and honest.

So, when you say “before God,” I wonder whether you mean that the Corinthians must come to see Christ revealed in their brother, whose weakness becomes the occasion for God's strength to be made manifest. If so, I can see that connection. But I would also emphasize that God is already at work, drawing them toward what is right and honest.

Paul was weak in body but strong in word. His exhortations were meant to bring life...not to the flesh but to the inner man. Those who can't discern between the inner man and outer man will always resist the truth and use their humanity as an excuse.


I think much depends on how we perceive Paul and the heart behind his words.

For example, when Paul says that the Corinthians still need milk and are not yet ready for meat, many people can read that as a reason to consider themselves superior because they believe they can handle the meat.

But I see Paul's heart differently. Christ lives in him, and he longs for them to mature so that they, too, can receive and endure the deeper things of God.

Paul is not speaking from a position of superiority but from a heart that cares for their spiritual growth. He speaks as one who has tenderly cared for them, like a nurse caring for her children.

That, to me, is strength in the Spirit: the humility to correct others, not to exalt oneself, but because one longs for them to grow in Christ.

His words are strong, but the heart behind them is love. He wants them to be strengthened in the inner man, not merely to become more confident in themselves.

That is why I believe we must discern the difference between human strength and the strength of Christ working in us.

When Paul speaks of being willing to be weak so that they may be strong, what kind of strength is he talking about?

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Read Jeremiah chapter 1. The prophet first destroys before he builds. If the people submit to the truth of God's ways then God intervenes directly. Otherwise He will let the people remain in their delusion...as nice as they might be.
Let the dead burying the dead?
Their INNER MAN perfection...not their human perfection. The rebel is looking for affirmation IN THEIR SINS
The rebel was once us all.
Of course. A truth teller risks being hated for the sake of the truth. Jesus was put on a cross for speaking the truth. All who are of the truth hear His voice. But ALL resist the truth...at least at first. Few allow the truth to offend them
What is truth. Men have differing things they proclaim as, the God’s Honest Truth.
Strong in what? Opinions? Pride?

Is Paul willing to be weak so that the Corinthians can become stronger in their own opinions and pride? I don't believe so.

Paul understands that they need the strength that comes from God. He is not seeking to establish his own strength over them, nor does he want them to become strong in themselves.

Rather, God's strength is made perfect in weakness.

I believe Paul's desire is for them to be strengthened in Christ, and that includes learning to love those they may think do not measure up.

It is one thing to appear strong in knowledge or to believe we have reached spiritual maturity. It is another thing to have the strength of Christ formed in us, so that we can walk in humility, bear with one another, and love those whom we might otherwise look down upon.

That is the strength Paul desires for them: not the strengthening of pride, but the strengthening of the inner man through Christ.
 
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What I have written is gone way over your head as you have stated. You are only seeing righteousness througjh your indoctrination and not realizing that righteousness is what we DO. The bible is misunderstood if one thinks that righteousness is any other thing.

You need instruction in righteousness. As Paul states.

Having faith in God is NOT about having beliefs about God. Beliefs are NOT righteousness...they are opinions. That's where modern religionists get confused. God justifies faith in the impossible because faith believes that God can do anything. Faith is DOING allegiance to what God can do. And faith is in what God WILL do as He tells a person...personally. God spoke directly to Abraham and told him something that was impossible for him...until God said it. It is a HUMAN righteousness to believe in the impossible. It is Christ's righteousness to DO the impossible. Each is according to our capacity.

A real disciple doesn't just believe in the impossible but also DOES the impossible. How? By the righteousness of God. Seek first the kingdom and His righteousness (His DOING). What does He do? He translates us into the kingdom realm to walk as Jesus walked in His resurrection life and power.

1. Do you believe in the impossible?

2. Do you believe you can walk in resurrection life and power just like Jesus did?

3. If not go back to 1.
Where did the subject I just raised go, Epi? You quickly moved off topic again and back to your comfort zone (basics - 101). Are you now writing to me or yourself, to an audience? You are now doing your usual empty grandstanding act in an attempt to teach me something that does not really apply to me, or is not about my two recent posts to you in the subject of "human righteousness" that must be defined in a wide audience.

And then out of nowhere, you have the gall to accuse me of "...seeing righteousness through my indoctrination." and then adding your catch phrase "righteousness is what we do." And you can drive a semi through this vague statement of course.

I will just finish with the my current topic that entailed "Human," "Self," and "in Christ" righteousness.

  • The Bible states that "there is none righteous, no not one" (Romans 3:10). Human attempts at righteousness are described as "filthy rags" to God and cannot justify a person before Him.
  • Alien Righteousness: The "righteousness of God" is not a quality believers, alone, achieve but a gift imputed to them through faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 3:21-22; 2 Corinthians 5:21).
  • Source of Righteousness: True righteousness is "alien" to believers because it is based on Christ’s death and resurrection, not on human works or behavior. It is granted solely by God’s grace and received through faith, not earned by merit.

--------entertaining your strange post here of it contents I've know for many years now---------
And of course believers always must only be righteous in God and not of ourselves. And of course that means doing, and not just believing. How else can you mature and grow? And these works are not performed on our own, as in self, only in cooperation with the Spirit of God via the planted spirit of his Son, who dwells within every believer!

----------------------on your typical responses from other posts---------------
You know there are words appropriate for your habitual dramatic non-substantial hifalutin responses to many of your posts, in your usual style and attempts to belittle others. I don't buy into any of it, and it can be amusing. I only respond to a mature and honest post of those of a sincere heart and not one that is viewed as written in a mode of insecurity and even desperation.

Let me sum up what your empty ridiculous grandstanding means to me with these words you can easy search for: airy, bloated, flatulent, gaseous/gassy, blustering/blustery, gusty, inflated, overblown, puffy, and swollen.

Airy: Definition: affected or proud
The noun air and the derivative airy are both regularly exhaled in reference to things insubstantial or immaterial. They descend from Greek aēr.

Bloated: Definition: overfilled and extended with liquid, gas, food, etc. — often used figuratively to describe something as having grown excessively large.

Blustering/Blustery:
Definition (blustering): speaking loudly and aggressively
Definition (blustery): noisily self-assertive

Blustering: used as an adjectival present participle becomes established during the 16th century—need we say the verb form was already blowing around. It is of Germanic origin.

Blustery: begins making noise in the 18th century and is formed from the noun bluster, which can refer to a violent, boisterous blowing or commotion or to a loud, boastful or threatening speech.

Flatulent:
Definition: pompously or portentously overblown

The adjective It begins being expelled during the late 16th century as a word describing literal and metaphorical gaseous phenomena. It blows in from Middle French, but its ultimate source words are Latin flatus, used to refer to an act of blowing or wind, and flare, a Latin verb meaning "to blow."

Gaseous/Gassy:
Definition (gaseous, gassy): characterized by many words but little content; emptily verbose

Both gaseous and gassy ripen during the 18th century. Their source is gas, which is believed to be an alteration of Latin chaos, meaning "space" and (yes) "chaos"

Gusty:
Definition: marked by outbursts of empty bombastic talk

The related noun gust blasts into 16th-century English with the meaning "a sudden brief rush of wind" and is swiftly picked up by the Bard; it is believed to be of Old Norse ancestry.

Inflated"
Definition: elaborated or heightened by artificial or empty means

Inflated blew up as an adjective past participle in the 17th century. The verb inflate was formed in the 15th century when the Latin prefix in-was coupled to the verb flare, meaning "to blow."

Overblown:
Definition: inflated or pretentious

It's difficult to puff up the history of overblown. The prefix over- is joined to the adjective blown, meaning "swollen" and deriving from the Middle English past participle of the verb blowen (blow, in modern day).

Puffed/Puffy:
Definition (puffed): exhibiting or expressive of vanity or conceit; pretentious or arrogant

Definition (puffy): characterized by vanity or ostentation

The adjectives puffed (also puffed-up) and puffy start being emitted in 16th-century English. The verb and noun puff are centuries older, dating to Old English and originating from onomatopoeia.

Swelling/Swollen:
Definition (swelling, swollen): inflated in style or manner; bombastic or pompous

Both adjectives are participles of swell, an ancient verb originally meaning "to expand" and expanding outward in meaning over many years. The older of the two adjectives is swollen.

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What I have written is gone way over your head as you have stated. You are only seeing righteousness througjh your indoctrination and not realizing that righteousness is what we DO. The bible is misunderstood if one thinks that righteousness is any other thing.

You need instruction in righteousness. As Paul states.

Having faith in God is NOT about having beliefs about God. Beliefs are NOT righteousness...they are opinions. That's where modern religionists get confused. God justifies faith in the impossible because faith believes that God can do anything. Faith is DOING allegiance to what God can do. And faith is in what God WILL do as He tells a person...personally. God spoke directly to Abraham and told him something that was impossible for him...until God said it. It is a HUMAN righteousness to believe in the impossible. It is Christ's righteousness to DO the impossible. Each is according to our capacity.

A real disciple doesn't just believe in the impossible but also DOES the impossible. How? By the righteousness of God. Seek first the kingdom and His righteousness (His DOING). What does He do? He translates us into the kingdom realm to walk as Jesus walked in His resurrection life and power.

1. Do you believe in the impossible?

2. Do you believe you can walk in resurrection life and power just like Jesus did?

3. If not go back to 1.
I don't believe righteousness is only what we do, it is also what one is inwardly, the heart. In fact true righteousness begins there doesn't it...the heart?
 
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Which verse(s) did you have in mind?

Here's one example of the use of "aphesis".

Mark 3:29 (N.I.V.) but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

Here are Strong's and Thayer's Lexicon's (an electronic version, keyed to Strong's numbers) entries for "aphesis" .

[*Thayer*]
859 aphesis {af'-es-is} from 863 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty

[*StrongsGreek*]
859 aphesis af'-es-is from 863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon:--deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission. see GREEK for 863

In my view, "forgiveness" is correct here, and "freedom" would be obscure.
I don’t even go to Strongs any more. It is based off OF translation errors, due to a preconceived bent. Isn’t that just so weird…?