Why Christians Call Mary the Mother of God.

[beechan]

Whatever you like to say, you maybe for me well to understand the Bible,
But what if you are wrong about the Trinity.

Then show me how I am wrong on it.

 

[David in NJ]

Go away your heresy.
Say something else.
Is your mind about all of you?

Good Morning,

How do you perceive/determine that the 'Trinity' is heresy?

 

[soberxp]

Good Morning,

How do you perceive/determine that the 'Trinity' is heresy?

I never called anyone a heretic. All I know is that we can discuss our different interpretations of the Bible; truth is clarified through debate.

 

[David in NJ]

I never called anyone a heretic.

i am curious IF you consider the 'Trinity' to be a heresy

All I know is that we can discuss our different interpretations of the Bible; truth is clarified through debate.

Debate is wonderful and good - thank you = as long as we can express without fear, intimidation, false accusations & with appreciation

All debates have an origin, a basis, a destiny, a purpose and a outcome.

Example: The very first debate, on earth, began in the Garden = Genesis chapter 3

 

[beechan]

I never called anyone a heretic. All I know is that we can discuss our different interpretations of the Bible; truth is clarified through debate.

How about here:

 

[soberxp]

i am curious IF you consider the 'Trinity' to be a heresy

**The Bible says the three are one; it does not say that the three are in one.**

Father,son,Holy spirit

**There is a massive deviation in understanding the meaning of the text, but I am not saying that those who understand it this way are heretics. I would only consider that they have misunderstood.**

**That is a huge deviation in understanding the meaning of the words, but I haven't called those who understand it this way heretics. I would only say that they have misunderstood.**

 

[soberxp]

How about here:
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Please let me quibble—no, please let me explain.

 

[beechan]

**The Bible says the three are one; it does not say that the three are in one.**

The correct meaning of Trinity is exacly what Bible says: three are one.


The Father, Son, and Spirit are each 1/3 of God is Partialism, wrong!
I don't see anyone here saying Trinity is 'three are in one.'

I see it is YOU who have misunderstood TRINITY in the first place and then rejected it.

 

[Taken]

Let me remind you, a ‘sola scripture’ follower, that it was also a council to determine which books should be included in the canon.

Sure and outside cannon books still optional for one’s own desire to consider.

 

[beechan]

Sure and outside cannon books still optional for one’s own desire to consider.

then you are still following a council of men who said: 'These are words of God, the others are not'

 

[Taken]

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Let me correct you that the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) ends at paragraph 2865. There is no CCC 3132!

Do better homework!

Eh… reliance on misprints of 2132 as 3132 not a big deal what is a load a nonsense regardless of where it is found in the sidekick books.

 

[beechan]

Eh… reliance on misprints of 2132 as 3132 not a big deal what is a load a nonsense regardless of where it is found in the sidekick books.

Don't sugarcoat the mistake you have made.

 

[David in NJ]

**The Bible says the three are one; it does not say that the three are in one.**

Father,son,Holy spirit

How do you perceive this:

New International Version I and the Father are one.” New Living Translation The Father and I are one.” English Standard Version I and the Father are one.” Berean Standard Bible I and the Father are one.” Berean Literal Bible I and the Father are one.” King James Bible I and my Father are one. New King James Version I and My Father are one.” New American Standard Bible I and the Father are one.”

 

[Taken]

then you are still following a council of men who said: 'These are words of God, the others are not'

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How did you conclude what I do?

 

[Taken]

Don't sugarcoat the mistake you have made.

Don’t dictate to me HOW I must answer.

 

[David in NJ]

Don't sugarcoat the mistake you have made.

Never do this = judge/asses/prove the Bible by/thru religion

Always do this = judge/asses/prove religion by/thru the Bible

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Christians do not call Mary the mother of God.

Christians know God has no mother..

 

[beechan]

Christians do not call Mary the mother of God.

Today, the title is formally and routinely used by Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Oriental Orthodox, and many traditional Anglican churches. Together, these bodies represent over a billion Christians globally, directly refuting the absolute claim that Christians do not use the title.

May be in your eyes, only the Protestants, or only members of your little congregation are Christians.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Today, the title is formally and routinely used by Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Oriental Orthodox, and many traditional Anglican churches. Together, these bodies represent over a billion Christians globally, directly refuting the absolute claim that Christians do not use the title.

May be in your eyes, only the Protestants, or only members of your little congregation are Christians.

I repeat

God has no mother.

any supposed church who says otherwise is misinformed.

Its not in my eyes friend. it is looking at the fact.

God created mary, Mary did not create God

 

[David in NJ]

then you are still following a council of men who said: 'These are words of God, the others are not'

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i agree

However, we must understand that GOD Says: "every word must be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses"

Therefore, a council of men may be a religious control group = as we see in the scriptures
or
"In the multitude of counselors there is safety" = Proverbs 11:14

What then is the KEY determining factor(s) that distinguishes between Godly council and man-made council(s)???