Once saved always saved

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[Taken]

Once saved always saved​

Yes.

Salvation IS “Gift From the Lord God”…
Given a man “AFTER” his bodily Death.

How does / would a man’s dead body’s Gift…
Become “revoked”?

The dead know nothing…to then reject his gift.

And

God is Not a Liar.

Not a mystery …
Yes ONCE Saved… Saved FOREVER.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[beechan]

Once saved always saved​

Yes.

Salvation IS “Gift From the Lord God”…
Given a man “AFTER” his bodily Death.

How does / would a man’s dead body’s Gift…
Become “revoked”?

The dead know nothing…to then reject his gift.

And

God is Not a Liar.

Not a mystery …
Yes ONCE Saved… Saved FOREVER.

Glory to God,
Taken

Yes, salvation is a gift, a free gift, not earned.
Yet, if you don't do the right things after receiving the gift, it would be lost.
Don't cry!

 

[Dryhn]

Yes, salvation is a gift, a free gift, not earned.
Yet, if you don't do the right things after receiving the gift, it would be lost.
Don't cry!

Besides no longer believing & trusting in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ what do you believe closes the Heaven entry gate to a believer today ?

 

[Dryhn]

Once saved always saved​

Yes.

Salvation IS “Gift From the Lord God”…
Given a man “AFTER” his bodily Death.

How does / would a man’s dead body’s Gift…
Become “revoked”?

The dead know nothing…to then reject his gift.

And

God is Not a Liar.

Not a mystery …
Yes ONCE Saved… Saved FOREVER.

Glory to God,
Taken

That's what I understand with the only proviso being that trust & faith in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ must be ongoing, I could be wrong though ??

 

[beechan]

Besides no longer believing & trusting in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ what do you believe closes the Heaven entry gate to a believer today ?

well....Judas was once saved, as follower of Jesus.
Do you thing he is sitting at the right side of Jesus NOW? savation never lost!

 

[Dryhn]

well....Judas was once saved, as follower of Jesus.
Do you thing he is sitting at the right side of Jesus NOW? savation never lost!

Judas was under the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Gal 1:11-12 Gospel that Christ taught to Paul who then Christ sent Paul to Peter Gal 2:2 to explain it the 12 ?

 

[beechan]

Judas was under the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Gal 1:11-12 Gospel that Christ taught to Paul who then Christ sent Paul to Peter Gal 2:2 to explain it the 12 ?

well James Bond has a license to kill

You, (or the OSAS) have a license to sin.

 

[Dryhn]

well James Bond has a license to kill

You have a license to sin.

We all continue to sin.

In the times of Judah, please list the verses that teach the gospel under which they were saved ?

 

[beechan]

We all continue to sin.

In the times of Judah, please list the verses that teach the gospel under which they were saved ?

Please see the verse about the second death :
Revelation 21:8
But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

None is mentioned on believing Jesus is Son of God, believing Jesus's blood redeems our sin, believing in resurrection of Jesus, ....believing once saved always saved!

 

[Dryhn]

Please see the verse about the second death :
Revelation 21:8
But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

None is mentioned on believing Jesus is Son of God, believing Jesus's blood redeems our sin, believing in resurrection of Jesus, ....believing once saved always saved!

Paul teaches ""and such were some of you but ye are .................""
So Scripture dummy I aint bee :)

Back to the request, please list the gospel verses that you believe teaches how the audience at the time of Judas were saved

 

[beechan]

Paul teaches ""and such were some of you but ye are .................""
So Scripture dummy I aint bee :)

Back to the request, please list the gospel verses that you believe teaches how the audience at the time of Judas were saved

Yes, these sins would be washed, sanctified and justified.
Yet, "And such were some of you". By using the word were, he draws a hard line between a believer's past and their present. This stressed that believers should no longer live by their former lifestyles, a change is expected. Paul did not teach: It is OK, just carry on....Jesus will wash your sins!

 

[Dryhn]

Yes, these sins would be washed, sanctified and justified.
Yet, "And such were some of you". By using the word were, he draws a hard line between a believer's past and their present. This stressed that believers should no longer live by their former lifestyles, a change is expected. Paul did not teach: It is OK, just carry on....Jesus will wash your sins!

Opinions are not verses.
What are the gospel verses that teach how believers at the time of Judas were saved

 

[beechan]

Opinions are not verses.

This is not opinion, I was teaching you the exact meaning of Paul's teaching.

since you are not scripture dummy, do goto read:
2 Corinthians 7:9–10
Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance... For godly sorrow produces a repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

Paul was teaching the need for repentance.
Repentance from sin is also essential for salvation, not just grace!

 

[Dryhn]

This is not opinion, I was teaching you the exact meaning of Paul's teaching.

since you are not scripture dummy, do goto read:
2 Corinthians 7:9–10
Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance... For godly sorrow produces a repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

Paul was teaching the need for repentance.
Repentance from sin is also essential for salvation, not just grace!

Repentance of .....
Take your time bee, no rush :)
ps Dont forget Eph 2:8-9, Gal 2:16, Rom 3:28, Titus 3:5-7, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1

 

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Yes, salvation is a gift, a free gift, not earned.

A Free Gift … with Agreed Conditions…
* Having by their WORD, BELIEF…
Heartful Belief, at the Time of Bodily Death
* Dead Body…Surrendered, Promised, Committed, Earmarked, Sealed…
unto the Lord God.

Yet, if you don't do the right things after receiving the gift…

No, Before Receiving the Gift…
Committed to the Agreement.

it would be lost.

No…
Scripture teaches….
Test, Try, Verify Everything.
God Tests, Tries, Verifies Everything.
God is all knowing.
(men MAKE agreements, promises, commitments…and Routinely Break / MAKE null and void, their Belief, Word, Agreement, Commitments).

Before…God Gives His Free Gift…He Verifies that man’s Word and Commitment … BE FOREVER TRUE.

Jer 17:
[10] I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

1 Sam 16:
[7] But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Pss 7:
[9] Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins.

Rev 2:
[23] And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[/B]

Don't cry!

The Gift IS NOT Given, THEN Revoked..
Men cannot Fool and Shame The Lord God…

Men have been Told, Warned.
Not Secret…No Excuses.
Either Once and Forever With the Lord God…or Forever Without the Lord God.

Rom 1:
[20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Stumpmaster]

Go......

The Foreknown, Predestined, Freewill Endowed, Divinely Intervened For Christian gets saved, and stays saved. Romans 8:28

 

[Taken]

That's what I understand with the only proviso being that trust & faith in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ must be ongoing, I could be wrong though ??

Ongoing YES… Because human Births and Deaths Are ongoing, continuing.

Some are Heartfully Agreeing / Committing…
Some Are Not.

The Day… of the Last of All existing humans to All come Against the The Lord God…
IS “still Future”…

Foretold…
Zech 12:
[2] Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
[3] And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Effected…
Rev 20:
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
[9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city:

Result…
and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Understanding … to be “OF” the World, is a mortal, Against God.

To be With God… is IN the World, but not OF the world.

Them With the Lord God…
John 17:
[14] I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

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BTW…

@Dryhn
@beechan

Hi Welcome to the forum.
God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

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if you don't do the right things after receiving the gift, it would be lost.

No…
Scripture teaches….
Test, Try, Verify Everything.
God Tests, Tries, Verifies Everything.

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