LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU! WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

[Scott Downey]

Amen! 1 Corinthians 11:29 - For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. 30 For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep. 31 But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world.

Paul knows that the judgment of God can take on the form of physical illness and even physical death. The word "sleep" when referring to death, refers to the physical death of believers and not spiritual death or soul sleep (John 11:11-12; Acts 7:60; 1 Corinthians 15:6,18,20,51; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-15; 2 Peter 3:4).

yes, certainly!

Like the girl Jesus raised up who was sick and died

Matthew 9

18 While He spoke these things to them, behold, a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, “My daughter has just died, but come and lay Your hand on her and she will live.” 19 So Jesus arose and followed him, and so did His disciples.

20 And suddenly, a woman who had a flow of blood for twelve years came from behind and touched the hem of His garment. 21 For she said to herself, “If only I may touch His garment, I shall be made well.” 22 But Jesus turned around, and when He saw her He said, “Be of good cheer, daughter; your faith has made you well.” And the woman was made well from that hour.

23 When Jesus came into the ruler’s house, and saw the flute players and the noisy crowd wailing, 24 He said to them, “Make room, for the girl is not dead, but sleeping.” And they ridiculed Him. 25 But when the crowd was put outside, He went in and took her by the hand, and the girl arose. 26 And the report of this went out into all that land.

 

[soberxp]

Well, if you support muslim terrorism then you are simply following Satan's logical answer to overthrow the US Constitution!!!

Shariah law allows men/husbands to beat their wives and children.
But they are merciful as they do not allow to break their bones!

Do you really Understand what is Satan's logical?

A:we need promise land.
B:The land is our home.
A:so fight.
B:fight to death.

It's all Satan's logical

 

[Jack]

Israel is Home to stay in the Land of the Bible!

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

 

[Davy]

It's already too late. The US is going darker with each passing day as is the entire world.

This is all leading to the coming one world government and it's one world leader.
People can vote in all the elections they want, but it will not stop the inevitable.

The US is no different from any of the other empires across history. They all eventually fall.

Wait just a minute. With that kind of attitude about the U.S., and all the western Christian nations for that matter, you show you don't really understand Bible prophecy about the western nations for the end of this world. As Christians, we are to always... be careful of wolves that creep into the Church and spread lies, especially lies to cause consternation among Christ's saints.

All nations, including the western nations, will indeed go into their "one world government". We are already almost there today. But that does not mean the western Christian nations will ever stop believing in The Father and His Son Jesus Christ. Even the Russian Communists Lenin and Stalin eventually understood this about Christians in Russia. Stalin closed the Churches in Russia and used them to store grain. But Russian Christians instead met in their homes and held Church, and went out and baptized in the freezing waters. They did the same thing in Red China, and all other nations controlled by either Communism or Islam.

It will be when Satan and his host of angels arrive here on earth, in plain sight, as Satan is who will play Messiah in Jerusalem at the end, literally, that Satan will attempt to wipe out Christ's Church off this earth once and for all. God's "two witnesses" and those of the Church that will be delivered up to give a Testimony for Jesus with The Holy Spirit speaking to the whole world through them, is what will really get Satan riled up to wipe us out. And that is when Lord Jesus will come from Heaven with His army of angels to stop it.

Per Ezekiel 38 and 39, God has already pronounced destruction upon the armies that will come up out of the northern quarters against Israel on that final day. And few realize it, but there exists TWO separate Israelite nations, as God scattered the ten tribes of Israel first, which The Gospel would be sent specifically to them and the Gentiles they are still among today, especially in the Christian West. The Israel in the West represent the "house of Israel" after the split of 1 Kings 11. The Israel in the middle east only represents the "house of Judah", which God promised He would always leave one tribe at Jerusalem for David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake (1 Kings 11).

That great army coming out of the northern quarters is listed with what nations it makes up in Ezekiel 38. NONE of the western Christian nations, or its allies, are listed in that great army, except Turkey (as old Togarmah). Turkey is an Islamic nation, but an ally in NATO. Communist Russia has been especially busy of late trying to turn Turkey with them.

It's attack upon the U.S. most likely will be in the northern regions near Alaska. They will likely attack northern Europe also. And they will attack the middle east nation of Israel. But Christ Jesus will step in and destroy that great army coming out of the northern quarters upon His saints.

Thus Satan is going to be 'revealed' to the world at the very end playing Messiah in Jerusalem, trying to do a repeat of what he did at his original rebellion of old with wanting to be GOD and His Christ. When he is revealed happens, he will determine to try and totally wipe out God's people off this earth.

 

[soberxp]

Israel is Home to stay in the Land of the Bible!

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

No longer?
Then how did they leave the land and live in exile for a thousand years?

 

[Jay Ross]

No longer?
Then how did they leave the land and live in exile for a thousand years?

This what God foretold to Jacob about his descendants: -



TO discover why the Israelites were scattered to the four corners of the earth read 2 Chronicles 7:12 ff. Also Exodus 20:4-6 tells us that the iniquities of their fathers will be visited upon the fathers' children and the children's children during the theirs and the fourth generation/age of the existence of the nation of Israel. Remember that the Roman Empire along with the Syrian Empire and the Grecian Empires disbursed the nation of Israel to the four corners of the earth. Also, the kings of the earth scattered the nation of Israel since 70 A.D. right up and until this present time.

Then we are told of God's gathering of the Israelites to Himself where they are living still scattered throughout the whole earth in these two passages.







Take your time to research the scriptures using your Interlinear bible to help you understand what is written. Modern interlinear often do not have the depth that we need to dig deeper into God's words.

Shalom

 

[soberxp]

This what God foretold to Jacob about his descendants: -

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TO discover why the Israelites were scattered to the four corners of the earth read 2 Chronicles 7:12 ff. Also Exodus 20:4-6 tells us that the iniquities of their fathers will be visited upon the fathers' children and the children's children during the theirs and the fourth generation/age of the existence of the nation of Israel. Remember that the Roman Empire along with the Syrian Empire and the Grecian Empires disbursed the nation of Israel to the four corners of the earth. Also, the kings of the earth scattered the nation of Israel since 70 A.D. right up and until this present time.

Then we are told of God's gathering of the Israelites to Himself where they are living still scattered throughout the whole earth in these two passages.


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Take your time to research the scriptures using your Interlinear bible to help you understand what is written. Modern interlinear often do not have the depth that we need to dig deeper into God's words.

Shalom

Is it the only one way to back to the land which is war and fight?

 

[Jack]

No longer?
Then how did they leave the land and live in exile for a thousand years?

How??? It wasn't by cars and trucks. Why? is a better question. They forsook God.

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...

And He did.

15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

And they won't. MANY will die trying tho!

 

[Jay Ross]

Is it the only one way to back to the land which is war and fight?

God when He said that He would Gather Israel to Himself, undertook to plant Israel back in His fertile soil/field that Hr had given to the past fathers of Israel initially but which they had rebelled against. God intends to keep Israel scattered throughout all of the earth where they have been scattered to until such time that they have completed God's tasks for them.

When God begins to gather Israel to Himself, He will enter into a covenant of Peace with the Nation of Israel where they are living all over the earth. It is not until God's purposes for Israel have come to its completion that God will bring Israel back into the Land that He had promised their fathers that He would give them.

This return to the Promised Land will be peaceful, unlike the 1948 return to the Land of Canaan which was achieved in their own strength and with much fighting and loss of life. Israel's return to the Promised Land will not happen until the completion of the Seventh Age.

Shalom

 

[ShineTheLight]

You are adding “born again” to passages that do not say those people were born again. First Timothy 4:1 warns about departing from the faith, and 2 Timothy 4:3–4 warns about rejecting sound doctrine. Those warnings are real, but neither passage establishes your claim about their previous spiritual condition.

John directly addresses people who departed and denied Christ: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us” (1 John 2:19). Their departure revealed that they had not truly belonged. They had been among believers, but being among believers is not the same as being born again.

That is not speculation about someone’s heart. It is what John says about the people he describes. Paul also writes, “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him” (Titus 1:16). Scripture plainly distinguishes claiming to know God from actually knowing Him.

Jesus makes that distinction unmistakable in Matthew 7:23: “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” These people called Him Lord and claimed works done in His name, yet He never knew them. Their profession was not proof of conversion.

I am not dismissing the warnings. I am warning against assuming that everyone who once professed faith was truly born again. Scripture exposes false professions, and we cannot leave those passages out of this discussion.

Regarding if a born-again believer is in chapter 7 of Matthew or not. Hebrews 1-8 says this.

Hebrews 6:1-8
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

John 3:3-8 talks about those who are born again, born of the spirit, Spirit of God. How can someone who is lost have tasted of the heavenly gift, be a partaker of the Holy Ghost, and taste the good word of God and the powers of the world to come? Someone who is born-again has to be the one to experience those things. Verses 6, 7, and 8 speak about what happens when things goes wrong. John 15:4-6 talks about a person needing to abide in Christ and that those who do not will result in Hebrews 6:8.

Romans 11:15-22 says this.

Romans 11:15-22
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

The severity of God is what keeps people in check. A person not doing the things they need to be doing in Christ/God will cost them.

Judgement begins at the house of God, and the righteous is scarcely saved according to 1 Peter 4:17-18.

In Luke 12:35-48 and Matthew 24:32-51 it talks about the goodman of the house, and the servants who do good with God and the servants who do bad with God. These two chapters say how the person who does wickedly will be appointed a portion with the unbelievers/hypocrites. This is the person that does not bear good fruit. From what I can see here, a person who is a Christian, a believer, or whatever you phrase it, can lose their salvation. The bible says in John 3:18 that those who don't believe are already condemned, and damned in Mark 16:16. What does/would a lost person know about being a servant of God/Jesus?

Broad is the way that leads to destruction. If this is just those who reject Christ or not born-again then what is all the warnings in the bible to make people in the faith to be aware of for? What is Jesus rebuking the churches in Revelation for? Proverbs 27:20 says hell and destruction are never full. If there are passages that say a person will be given their portion with the unbelievers or hypocrites, then this plays into the severity of God factor. It would make sense that there would be "many" that go to the broad way.

There are passages that are not really talking about lost people. This is the thing that needs to be examined.

 

[ShineTheLight]

And so then if God is not your teacher, and your Father, then Christ will say to you,
You are not a part of the family of God.

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

The passage is not saying what you are saying, "You are not a part of the family of God.". It's not talking about a lost person. It's talking about a person who was in the faith. The verses before 21 where they talk about the good fruit and bad fruit, that's a big deal.

The bible says in Exodus that you shall not take the name of the lord in vain. God will not hold them guiltless who takes his name in vain. The bible also says in 2 Timothy 2 to let everyone who names the name of Christ to depart from iniquity. Hence the depart from me you that work iniquity in verse 23 of Matthew chapter 7.

In verse 21 of Matthew 7 where God says he who does the will of his father in heaven. Here's a few other passages

Luke 6:46
And why call ye Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not the things which I say?

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

1 Peter 4:17-18
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Malachi 4:1-3
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-8
6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:26-31
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[David in NJ]

Is it the only one way to back to the land which is war and fight?

Behold, a day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence. 2For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

3Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. 4On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. 5You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with Him. - Zechariah ch14