Only Paul, no-one else for today

[David Lamb]

I would like to read the verses that teach Peter has authority over Paul in 2026 to instruct Gentile me what is required to enter Heaven.
Please cite them for my study purposes

Sorry, but I think you must have misunderstood my post. I didn't say that Peter had authority over Paul. What I said was that Scripture nowhere says that any particular apostle was appointed by God to teach Gentiles many years after the apostles were dead.

 

[shepherdsword]

I deal with the teachings of Jesus that apply to me, today, now.
Who taught Paul ? Jesus
Who did Jesus select as Apostle to you ? Paul
That's what you need to deal with

Peter was the first to preach the gospel to the gentiles.

Ac 10:34-36
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)


Paul was sent to the Jews as well as the gentiles. This spills out of the doctrinal box you are held prisoner to.

Ac 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

 

[WHO ME]

Gods grace throught OUR FAITH
how do we get that Faith?
Faith comes by hearing the Gospel
That Faith is in who Jesus is what He did and what He said
And we find most of that in Matt Mark Luke and John....
We believe on His name by what we read about Him
Theres only one path to salvation for the jew and gentile alike.
How do I know who Jesus is unless I read all the gospel which works together that I may believe and be saved?..
Did Jesus not tell us how to be saved when we read about the things He did and the things He said and the Things said about Him including things the Father said in Matt Mark Luke and John?

While paul was sent to the gentiles we have to know about who Jesus is first and foremost before we can believe and be saved.... Jesus says in Luke 14:26-33 If any man comes to me and wants to become a disciple he first needs to know the cost of following Him and Matt Mark Luke and John spell out a lot of that cost....

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What don't believers of today not understand ?
Why do you REJECT Scripture ?
Christ and ALL the Apostles agreed that Paul teaches you & I how to be saved TODAY, not they.
..
Acts 9:15 Paul is our Apostle TODAY
Rom 11:13.....as above
Rom 15:16.....as above
Gal 2:7-9........as above
1 Tim 2:7.......as above
Gal 2:2............as above
Eph 3:8...........as above
2 Tim 1:11.....as above

Jew and Gentile must be saved the same way--trusting in the death, burial and physical resurrection of jesus for our sins as is declared in the Scriptures.

 

[Rockerduck]

In all cases, neither Paul, Peter, or anybody else has ever saved anyone. Jesus saves, and only Jesus. No one can teach you how to be saved, Jesus saves, and only Jesus.
Jesus promised eternal life, none of the Apostles did. Only through Jesus do you receive eternal life and can't lose it. John 3:16 and John 10:28.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Jew and Gentile must be saved the same way--trusting in the death, burial and physical resurrection of jesus for our sins as is declared in the Scriptures.

""Jew and Gentile must be saved the same way""
YES, since today ALL ARE ONE - Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, Gal 6:15
""trusting in the death, burial and physical resurrection of jesus for our sins as is declared in the Scriptures.""
YES >> 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Col 2:13 << The Gospel Gal 1:11-12 that Christ taught to Paul

 

[PeterAndroz]

Peter was the first to preach the gospel to the gentiles.

Ac 10:34-36
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)


Paul was sent to the Jews as well as the gentiles. This spills out of the doctrinal box you are held prisoner to.

Ac 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

""Peter was the first to preach the gospel to the gentiles.""
Gal 2:7-9 then LATER the 12 ALL agreed that it was now Paul's role

 

[sondring7]

Sorry, but I think you must have misunderstood my post. I didn't say that Peter had authority over Paul. What I said was that Scripture nowhere says that any particular apostle was appointed by God to teach Gentiles many years after the apostles were dead.

Galatians 2-7 to 9 teaches that Cephas (Peter), John and others agreed that Paul, Barnabas teaches the heathen(gentiles) but you claim that no longer applies today ?
Help me to learn by listing the Bible verses that teaches that to be so for all of us in 2026

 

[David Lamb]

Galatians 2-7 to 9 teaches that Cephas (Peter), John and others agreed that Paul, Barnabas teaches the heathen(gentiles) but you claim that no longer applies today ?
Help me to learn by listing the Bible verses that teaches that to be so for all of us in 2026

We don't have the apostles with us today. The only way we can know the words of the apostles now is through Scripture, the parts of the Bible that some of them penned, as well as the parts of the Bible where their words are recorded. And 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says:

NKJV 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

It doesn't say, "but if you're a Gentile, don't take any notice of words not spoken or written by Paul or Barnabas."

 

[sondring7]

We don't have the apostles with us today. The only way we can know the words of the apostles now is through Scripture, the parts of the Bible that some of them penned, as well as the parts of the Bible where their words are recorded. And 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says:

NKJV 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

It doesn't say, "but if you're a Gentile, don't take any notice of words not spoken or written by Paul or Barnabas."

......We don't have the apostles with us today.
The teachings of Paul are how we are saved today
Acts 15.11 we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 15.12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul,
Peter confirms that they too are now saved by the teachings of Paul
Gal 3.28, Col 3.11, Gal 6.15 is who the we are after Acts 15.11
We are saved by 1 Cor 15.1-4, Eph 1.13
Do you reject the teachings of the Jesus chosen Apostle for you Paul ?

 

[David Lamb]

......We don't have the apostles with us today.
The teachings of Paul are how we are saved today
Acts 15.11 we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 15.12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul,
Peter confirms that they too are now saved by the teachings of Paul
Gal 3.28, Col 3.11, Gal 6.15 is who the we are after Acts 15.11
We are saved by 1 Cor 15.1-4, Eph 1.13
Do you reject the teachings of the Jesus chosen Apostle for you Paul ?

Where in my post did I say anything about rejecting the teachings of Paul? I accept the whole Bible (not only those parts penned by Paul) as God's word. I don't see only the parts penned by Paul, or recording Paul's spoken words being applicable to me today.

I don't agree that anybody is saved by the teachings of Paul. Sinners are saved by the only Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, and His sacrifice of Himself on Calvary's cross. That is reflected in Paul's teachings, and the teachings of the other apostles, but we are saved by the Saviour, not by the teachings.

 

[sondring7]

Where in my post did I say anything about rejecting the teachings of Paul? I accept the whole Bible (not only those parts penned by Paul) as God's word. I don't see only the parts penned by Paul, or recording Paul's spoken words being applicable to me today.

I don't agree that anybody is saved by the teachings of Paul. Sinners are saved by the only Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, and His sacrifice of Himself on Calvary's cross. That is reflected in Paul's teachings, and the teachings of the other apostles, but we are saved by the Saviour, not by the teachings.

+++++I don't agree that anybody is saved by the teachings of Paul
Of course they are since the teachings of Paul are the teachings of Jesus that apply in 2026

 

[David Lamb]

+++++I don't agree that anybody is saved by the teachings of Paul
Of course they are since the teachings of Paul are the teachings of Jesus that apply in 2026

Sorry, what I meant that it is not the teachings that save, but Jesus Christ saves. Somebody can believe that Paul taught that we are saved by Jesus Christ, but unless that person actually believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, rather than just the fact that Paul taught that He is the Saviour, that person is not saved. I certainly didn't say, nor mean, that Paul's teachings don't apply in 2026.

 

[sondring7]

Sorry, what I meant that it is not the teachings that save, but Jesus Christ saves. Somebody can believe that Paul taught that we are saved by Jesus Christ, but unless that person actually believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, rather than just the fact that Paul taught that He is the Saviour, that person is not saved. I certainly didn't say, nor mean, that Paul's teachings don't apply in 2026.

+++Sorry, what I meant that it is not the teachings that save, but Jesus Christ saves
Yes and in 2026 the teachings of Jesus via Paul tell us how we are saved 1 Cr 15.1-4
Believe and trust in the death and burial and resurrection of Jesus for the forgiveness of all sins.

 

[David Lamb]

+++Sorry, what I meant that it is not the teachings that save, but Jesus Christ saves
Yes and in 2026 the teachings of Jesus via Paul tell us how we are saved 1 Cr 15.1-4
Believe and trust in the death and burial and resurrection of Jesus for the forgiveness of all sins.

Yes I agree that Paul and the other apostles taught that.

 

[sondring7]

Yes I agree that Paul and the other apostles taught that.

Yes after Gal 2.2 and Acts 15
GAL 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,
ACTS 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
ACTS 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul

 

[Dryhn]

I would like to read the verses that teach Peter has authority over Paul in 2026 to instruct Gentile me what is required to enter Heaven.
Please cite them for my study purposes

Hi s7, I see no-one bothered to respond to your request and there is good reason for that since Paul trumps Peter until the rapture then it's back to the gospel that the 12 taught in order to be saved

 

[ScottA]

Ministers of the gospel of Christ do not save, of which there are even now many, which "He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers." But they simply give testimony to the truth and teach what is given to them. Ultimately, it is Jesus and the Holy Spirit, as He said, "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you."

 

[Rockerduck]

Hi s7, I see no-one bothered to respond to your request and there is good reason for that since Paul trumps Peter until the rapture then it's back to the gospel that the 12 taught in order to be saved

The 12 Apostles were chosen to be witnesses of Jesus's ministry and miracles only. The Apostle Paul was chosen to set the doctrines of the church as we know it today. Without Paul's letters the church would have no structure and no basis for a Christian marriage, and without a complete knowledge of the work of the Holy Spirit and most importantly, What Grace is.

 

[David Lamb]

The 12 Apostles were chosen to be witnesses of Jesus's ministry and miracles only. The Apostle Paul was chosen to set the doctrines of the church as we know it today. Without Paul's letters the church would have no structure and no basis for a Christian marriage, and without a complete knowledge of the work of the Holy Spirit and most importantly, What Grace is.

But surely the ministry of Jesus included teaching, which is what "doctrine" means. For example, we read:

NKJV Mrk 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the synagogue and taught.
Mrk 1:22 And they were astonished at His teaching, for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

Indeed, in the same chapter, the word "doctrine" is used:

Mrk 1:27 Then they were all amazed, so that they questioned among themselves, saying, "What is this? What new doctrine is this? For with authority He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey Him."