Flat Earth Theory

[CrowCross]

God created the phases of the moon for His Purpose = as found in Genesis and the Torah

Since the Moon is it's own light, as God has Said, the sun is not illuminating the moon as CLEARLY seen in broad daylight as shown.

Everyone will choose whom they will believe.

How big is the moon? How far away is the moon?

 

[Crazy Ivan]

They can't answer the questions which is why they are evading them.

Obviously. They are bereft of answers.

 

[RandyDawson]

It's because the earth isn't flat.

If it was we could go see the edge of the earth.

They'd find a way to not believe it even then, so dug in are they on this position.

Yep, that's about the size of it.

They teach the gospel of flat earth salvation where all who don't believe the earth is flat will burn in hell.

The problem is, you run to the demonic AI for your answers rather than the Word of God.

And of course the Word of God does not say the earth is flat either.

This is why they twist scripture in their feeble efforts to try and make it look like it does.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

The problem is, you run to the demonic AI for your answers rather than the Word of God.

Hahahahahahahahahaha I knew the response would be something like this. AI could say 2+2 = 4 and you wouldn't believe it.

Obviously - OBVIOUSLY - it's bad practice to believe everything that comes out of AI. But it can be a helpful tool in offering explanations like this. Scientific explanations. Things that a physicist or geologist or geography expert would explain.

 

[CrowCross]

The only way to prove the earth is round to these people is for them to take a ride on a space ship that circles the world a few times.

Or, have a NDE and while they're zipping away to heaven and seeing the earth....then like others speak about the spherical earth after they are revived.

I don't recall hearing about a NDE'er ever speaking of seeing a flat earth.

 

[CrowCross]

The problem is, you run to the demonic AI for your answers rather than the Word of God.

Where does the Word of God say the earth is flat?

 

[amigo de christo]

They'll just say it's round and flat.

The only way to prove the earth is round to these people is for them to take a ride on a space ship that circles the world a few times.




They can't answer the questions which is why they are evading them.

actually not quite . if the earth was round and flat it would not appear
as a cresent moon at all . it would appear as a half cresent moon .
Nevertheless i have found this entire debate not worthwhile .
Because one thing i do know
is many flat and many round earthers , OH They all running to the same ecumeincal inclusive and diverse
HARLOT . That Harlot sits over THIS EARTH . so even if it were flat or etc
Or round and etc , that HO gots to be exposed .
Many are already under her influence . some are much farther along and have bought the lie
and others not quite as far along . But if we dont get off the false sensual judge not love train
THEY ALL GOING DOWN who continue under her influence .
The lie to merge all decieved has come to do just that . No longer divided will the decieved be ,
but rather UNITED and all under a god and a love and a peace THEY ALL believe to be of GOD .
From every false religoin , to even the decieved of christendom that would not repent
ALL will buy the same universal love of the inclusive god and of his harlot and will find
a means to bring peace on earth . AND ALL of them DAMNED as they were crying thIS be the path to PEACE n safety .
And now a word .
FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFETY , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION comes upon them all .
WE got a unifying lie cloaked as love and as peace , and the key leaders of all false reli gions have sold it to their own
JUST as the key leaders of christendom sold it to their own .

 

[RandyDawson]

Point is, once people get deceived in to believing the earth is flat - they are done. Their brains are cooked!

 

[David in NJ]

I ran this through chatgpt, taking a screen shot of the image of that photo and asking it to explain, to make this potentially understandable for you. Here's what it spit out.

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This is a fascinating photograph because it demonstrates just how far human vision can extend under the right conditions. The mountains in your picture are between 420 and 493 kilometers (261–306 miles) away.

The explanation involves three things working together:

1. The elevation of the photographer.
2. The elevation of the distant mountain peaks.
3. The bending of light as it travels through Earth's atmosphere (atmospheric refraction).

Let's break that down.

1. Both ends of the line of sight are elevated​

Richard Jezik was photographing from a mountain in the Karagöl area of northeastern Turkey.

• His observation point was approximately 3,107 meters (10,194 feet) above sea level.
• Mount Shkhara, the most distant mountain in the photograph, is approximately 5,193 meters (17,037 feet) high.

This is important because the Earth curves away below both the photographer and the distant mountain.

Think of it this way: the photographer doesn't have to see around the Earth from sea level. He is looking from one elevated mountain toward another elevated mountain.

2. Each mountain has its own horizon​

Here is the interesting mathematics.

On a spherical Earth, the approximate distance to the horizon, without atmospheric refraction, is:

\[ D=3.57\sqrt{h} \]
Where:

• D is the distance in kilometers.
• h is the height in meters.

For Jezik's position:

\[ 3.57\sqrt{3107}=199\text{ km} \]
For the top of Mount Shkhara:

\[ 3.57\sqrt{5193}=257\text{ km} \]
Add those together:

\[ 199+257=456\text{ km} \]
Important result
Even without atmospheric refraction, the two elevated positions have a combined geometric horizon distance of approximately 456 kilometers.

That is why the elevation of both mountains matters so much.

3. Atmospheric refraction extends the distance​

This is the part that makes the photograph especially interesting.

Light does not travel in a perfectly straight line through Earth's atmosphere.

Air near the surface is generally denser than air higher up. As light travels through these layers, its path bends slightly downward, following the curvature of the Earth.

This phenomenon is called atmospheric refraction.

Under ordinary atmospheric conditions, refraction can extend the geometric viewing distance by as much as approximately 9%.


DOI.org+1


Let's apply that to the photograph:

The viewing distance to Mount Shkhara
Geometric horizon distance
456 km
With 8.1% additional reach
493 km

493 km​

Approximately 306 miles
That is remarkably close to the actual Guinness record distance of 493.07 kilometers.

4. Why was the photograph taken at sunrise?​

The atmospheric conditions were particularly important.

According to Guinness, Jezik:

• Climbed for approximately 10 hours to reach his observation point.
• Set up his equipment during the night.
• Experienced temperatures around -12°C (10°F).
• Waited until sunrise to capture the photograph.

There were two advantages:

Atmospheric conditions: Temperature differences between atmospheric layers affect how much light bends. Certain stable conditions and temperature inversions can extend visibility considerably.

Visual contrast: The distant mountains appear as dark silhouettes against the brighter sky around sunrise. This makes otherwise nearly invisible mountain peaks much easier to photograph.


Guinness World Records+1

5. What does this photograph actually demonstrate?​

There is an important distinction worth making.

The photograph demonstrates that an elevated observer can see extremely distant elevated objects, even when the distance exceeds the combined geometric horizon distances calculated without refraction.

It does not mean that the entire distant mountain range is visible. The visible portions are primarily the elevated peaks.

And it does not mean atmospheric refraction is imaginary or an arbitrary explanation. It is a measurable optical phenomenon that scientists account for in surveying, astronomy, and long-distance visibility calculations.

My takeaway: The remarkable thing about this photograph is that the combination of two high elevations, Earth's atmosphere, and exceptionally favorable weather makes it possible to photograph a mountain more than 300 miles away while standing on another mountain.

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Then I asked it to make an image illustrating how this works. Here's what it gave me.

View attachment 93089


But....but....conspiracy! (probably chatgpt is part of that conspiracy!)

LOL

You just used AI FALSEHOOD

 

[Marvelloustime]

actually not quite . if the earth was round and flat it would not appear
as a cresent moon at all . it would appear as a half cresent moon .
Nevertheless i have found this entire debate not worthwhile .
Because one thing i do know
is many flat and many round earthers , OH They all running to the same ecumeincal inclusive and diverse
HARLOT . That Harlot sits over THIS EARTH . so even if it were flat or etc
Or round and etc , that HO gots to be exposed .
Many are already under her influence . some are much farther along and have bought the lie
and others not quite as far along . But if we dont get off the false sensual judge not love train
THEY ALL GOING DOWN who continue under her influence .
The lie to merge all decieved has come to do just that . No longer divided will the decieved be ,
but rather UNITED and all under a god and a love and a peace THEY ALL believe to be of GOD .
From every false religoin , to even the decieved of christendom that would not repent
ALL will buy the same universal love of the inclusive god and of his harlot and will find
a means to bring peace on earth . AND ALL of them DAMNED as they were crying thIS be the path to PEACE n safety .
And now a word .
FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFETY , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION comes upon them all .
WE got a unifying lie cloaked as love and as peace , and the key leaders of all false reli gions have sold it to their own
JUST as the key leaders of christendom sold it to their own .

@amigo de christo

 

[Crazy Ivan]

LOL

You just used AI FALSEHOOD

Haha. I knew you'd respond with something like this. LOL

 

[RandyDawson]

Haha. I knew you'd respond with something like this. LOL

They don't call you Crazy Ivan for nothing! LOL

 

[doctrox]

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The lie aka the bending of the truth:








The truth via Earth Curvature Calculator:







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[TLHKAJ]

Point is, once people get deceived in to believing the earth is flat - they are done. Their brains are cooked!

Isaiah 5:20
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

 

[Peter1]

This thread has nothing to do with salvation and is nothing but a waste of valuable time which could be spent talking about Jesus.

I suggest they close this thread down for good.

 

[doctrox]

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I suggest they close this thread down for good.

Of course you would.


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NASA's Top 40 Fails, Fumbles & Freemasonic Fraternal Family
nāšā' (H5377) = to deceive - Blue Letter Bible

 

[Dryhn]

i just noticed your comment of pride

Pride is the sin that blinds people to the Scriptures and/or receiving understanding from Them.

Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.

Standing on the waters edge from 30 mile away why does the water line obscure the bottom of the CN & coastline ?
LH side taken from 30 miles
RH side taken closer to CN tower

Please explain, TIA :)

 

[Dryhn]

This thread has nothing to do with salvation and is nothing but a waste of valuable time which could be spent talking about Jesus.

I suggest they close this thread down for good.

When someone claims the Bible teaches a FLAT EARTH, how seriously do you take any other teaching they may have ?

 

[Dryhn]

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Of course you would.

View attachment 93107
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NASA's Top 40 Fails, Fumbles & Freemasonic Fraternity

The one that explains why from 30 miles away the water obscures the bottom of the CN tower & coastline yet when closer it doesn't

Take you time oxy boy xxx

 

[doctrox]

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The earth has pillars, and hangs on nothing:

Job 9:6
Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.

Job 26:7
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. (Job 38:13-15)




NASA's Top 40 Fails, Fumbles & Freemasonic Fraternal Family
nāšā' (H5377) = to deceive - Blue Letter Bible
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