The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

[amigo de christo]

And all postribs say they are waiting on the AC to come, not Jesus.

wanna hear something that ought to shock all to the very core of their own heart .
Most all post , mid , pre tribbers , no tribbers , osas and non osas , flat earth or round earth
THEY ALL GOING RIGHT INTO the ecumeincal chambers of a harlot who has poured the cup
of her inclusive father satan and its anti christ peace upon this entire world and all religoins .
MY advice , let no man or woman head into that lovey do cup of a harlot
because all who do so , DAMNED ON JESUS DAY .
And sure its gonna get harsh against those who did not sip of her love cup and eat of her peace table dainties
BUT mark my words
FAR better is it to have stayed faithful to Christ and have suffered and even been killed .
THERE is something far worse that awaits these who made and love a lie .
IT called the second death .

 

[amigo de christo]

And all postribs say they are waiting on the AC to come, not Jesus.

what many think has not yet come , OH IT HAS COME .
And we are much farther along than what most folks realize .
THE LYING SPIRIT sent out to the mouths of all the false religoins as well as the false in christendom
as well as many others ,
OH ITS HERE . OH yes , IT IS .
and the false prophets now sing the one same song my friend .
GO TOO and behold the song of the ecumeincal harlot and her interfaith cry .
AND YE SHALL SEE that song .
As buddist , muslim , jew , greek othordox , protestant and other relgoins
were all seen saying
GOD IS LOVE and let us be one for world peace n safety .
ITS HERE . and its been sold to atheist and to all .
Though to the athiest it came claoked as love and as a means to attain peace on earth .
THE SAME MINDSET now grows in many .
Let us be as one and let us attain world peace n safety , let us find common ground.
And all religoins have singers singing to them all
as does christendom have its own singers singing to its own . AND IT will merge them all
to have a common mission . ANY GUESSES on what that common mission is
WE MUST be as one FOR WORLD PEACE n sa fety .
THAT IS what you will see that KEY leaders IN ALL the false religoins as well as christendom
HAVE IN COMMON . the same peace song OF ANTI CHRIST . s

 

[William Barton]

No. The devil has always wanted to be God. That’s not the Great Apostasy. Rather, the Great Apostasy of the end times is when BELIEVERS who went to church every Sunday, who read their Bibles every day, who worshiped Jesus with all their heart—are DECEIVED by the FALSE MESSIAH.

Woe!!!

Sel@h suggested:
<The devil has always wanted to be God.>

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The devil is brilliant, hence he knows he cannot perform such a thing himself, rather he wants to rule over what has been created. He also knows what is going to happen to him: "Woe to the one who strives against his creator." (Isaiah 45:9)

 

[Sel@h]

Sel@h suggested:
<The devil has always wanted to be God.>

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The devil is brilliant, hence he knows he cannot perform such a thing himself, rather he wants to rule over what has been created. He also knows what is going to happen to him: "Woe to the one who strives against his creator." (Isaiah 45:9)

Here is Lucifer’s (Satan’s) destiny:
Ezekiel 28:1-26 (NKJV) 1 The word of the LORD came to me again, saying, 2 “Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Because your heart [is] lifted up, And you say, ‘I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, In the midst of the seas,’ Yet you [are] a man, and not a god, Though you set your heart as the heart of a god 3 (Behold, you [are] wiser than Daniel! There is no secret that can be hidden from you! 4 With your wisdom and your understanding You have gained riches for yourself, And gathered gold and silver into your treasuries; 5 By your great wisdom in trade you have increased your riches, And your heart is lifted up because of your riches),” 6 ‘Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “Because you have set your heart as the heart of a god, 7 Behold, therefore, I will bring strangers against you, The most terrible of the nations; And they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom, And defile your splendor. 8 They shall throw you down into the Pit, And you shall die the death of the slain In the midst of the seas. 9 “Will you still say before him who slays you, ‘I [am] a god’? But you [shall be] a man, and not a god, In the hand of him who slays you. 10 You shall die the death of the uncircumcised By the hand of aliens; For I have spoken,” says the Lord GOD.’ ” 11 Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 12 “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “You [were] the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone [was] your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created. 14 “You [were] the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. 15 You [were] perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. 16 “By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. 17 “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you. 18 “You defiled your sanctuaries By the multitude of your iniquities, By the iniquity of your trading; Therefore I brought fire from your midst; It devoured you, And I turned you to ashes upon the earth In the sight of all who saw you. 19 All who knew you among the peoples are astonished at you; You have become a horror, And [shall be] no more forever.” ’ ” 20 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 21 “Son of man, set your face toward Sidon, and prophesy against her, 22 “and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I [am] against you, O Sidon; I will be glorified in your midst; And they shall know that I [am] the LORD, When I execute judgments in her and am hallowed in her. 23 For I will send pestilence upon her, And blood in her streets; The wounded shall be judged in her midst By the sword against her on every side; Then they shall know that I [am] the LORD. 24 “And there shall no longer be a pricking brier or a painful thorn for the house of Israel from among all [who are] around them, who despise them. Then they shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.” 25 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “When I have gathered the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and am hallowed in them in the sight of the Gentiles, then they will dwell in their own land which I gave to My servant Jacob. 26 “And they will dwell safely there, build houses, and plant vineyards; yes, they will dwell securely, when I execute judgments on all those around them who despise them. Then they shall know that I [am] the LORD their God.” ’ ”

 

[amigo de christo]

Sel@h suggested:
<The devil has always wanted to be God.>

Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The devil is brilliant, hence he knows he cannot perform such a thing himself, rather he wants to rule over what has been created. He also knows what is going to happen to him: "Woe to the one who strives against his creator." (Isaiah 45:9)

And now a reminder that might just terrify this inclusive generation into dire repentance . at least i sure hope it would .
HOW does one worship satan .
Through the lusts of the f lesh my friend . and ever other religoin from the kindest muslim on earth
to the sweet granny buddists , they all serve satan .
You see satan dont give a rip what you call him , call him budda , or new age , or muslim
or any other . THERE is only TWO religions .
ONE IS OF GOD found ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST the other is of satan and
the other , IS ALL others . Lets not pet the snake of ecumeincalims inclusivity
lest that ol snake bite and the end of that be death .

 

[Marvelloustime]

And now a reminder that might just terrify this inclusive generation into dire repentance . at least i sure hope it would .
HOW does one worship satan .
Through the lusts of the f lesh my friend . and ever other religoin from the kindest muslim on earth
to the sweet granny buddists , they all serve satan .
You see satan dont give a rip what you call him , call him budda , or new age , or muslim
or any other . THERE is only TWO religions .
ONE IS OF GOD found ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST the other is of satan and
the other , IS ALL others . Lets not pet the snake of ecumeincalims inclusivity
lest that ol snake bite and the end of that be death .

@amigo de christo

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Case for a post-tribulation Coming?

No problem, we agree; where we Disagree is with trying to place God's
"Revelation Of His Mystery" inside of His Other Context of Prophecy!, When they
Should Be 'Rightly Divided', not Mixed up, causing Confusion and false accusations
against God's Beloved Grace brethren, eh? - ie:

In Prophecy, God Has Two Prophesied 'Comings' For Israel: 1) As The Humble Servant, To Die
For sin, Rise Again, and Ascend To Heaven, and 2) To Return As King of kings To Rule!
This Program is Currently On Hold...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

In God's "Revelation Of The Mystery"/ Grace For The Body Of Christ, There Is Only One Coming, To
Gather All His [ Comforted ] 'ambassadors' Away From the earth, Before "Declaring War/Judgment" /
/ Woe! On an Ungodly and Unbelieving world, eh?

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

...At which Time, Prophecy concerning Israel in the Time of Jacob's Trouble Will
Be Resumed, With All Unfulfilled Prophecies Brought To Completion... , eh?

For those interested diligent Bible students, the 'Rightly Divided' Details are here:

# 9 Body Removal Away From earth, and 17 Part Outline!
+
Conclusion (Part 17): God's Great [ Pre-trib ] GRACE Departure!

Others not interested in humble and kind discussions, may 'carry on', please?



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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[KUWN]

The Bible.

You mean the English Translation/Version of the Bible?

This squabble initiated by the Antichrist is Middle Eastern only. This has no effect on the U.S.

The pre-tribulation rapture is noted in John 14:2-3, 1Corinthians 15:51-53, 1Thessalonians 5:15-17, Revelation 11:2, 14:16.

You must have fat fingered it. Chapter 4 is what I believe you were trying to give her.

 

[KUWN]

Sel@h, or anyone else, give it a try. If you succeed, you will be the only Post Tribber to do so. See below and good luck. You should know all the scriptures were these items are found in case you want to check it out.


For those who put the Rapture and the Second Coming at roughly the same time, I offer this list of contrasts between the Rapture and the Second Coming. Each number in one section corresponds to the same number in the other/lower section. This is also a list that supports the Rapture happening before the Tribulation, and the Second Coming happening at the end of the Tribulation.

At the Rapture:
1. Christ comes FOR His own in the air
2. All believers are translated into new bodies
3. Christians are taken to the Father's House
4. There is no judgment on the earth
5. The Church will be in Heaven
6. It is an imminent occurrence
7. There are no signs preceding it
8. It affects believers only
9. It is a time of joy
10. it occurs before the day of Wrath
11. No mention of Satan
12. The Judgment Seat of Christ happens next
13. There is the marriage of the Lamb
14. Only Christ's own will see him
15. The Tribulation begins

At the Second Coming:
1. Christ comes WITH his own to the earth
2. No Translation of bodies
3. resurrected saints remain on earth
4. Christ judges the inhabitants of the earth
5. Christ sets up his kingdom on earth
6. It can not occur until the seven-year Trib period
7. There are numerous signs preceding it
8. It affects all humanity
9. It is a time of mourning
10. It occurs after the Tribulation
11. Satan is bound in abyss 1,000 years
12. No judgment seat of Christ
13. His bride descends with him to earth
14. Every eye will see him
15. The millennial reign of Christ begins

 

[marks]

The popular "Rapture" theory, specifically the Pre-tribulation view, suggests that Christ will remove the church before the tribulation begins. This view claims believers will be whisked away to safety, avoiding all the fear and chaos of the Antichrist. However, this idea lacks biblical support and suggests a cowardice inconsistent with the faith of those who have died defending the truth.

I only just now decided to start reading this thread.

Cowardice? How do you get that? My rapture view is pre-trib, and I find that those who place it post trib cannot reconcile the plain readings of narrative prophecies. Claiming your opponents in this debate to be cowards likewise suggests intellectual dishonesty, is that what you think?

Can't someone simply believe what they see the Bible clearly teaching without someone else dismissing it as cowardice?

Scripture is clear that the return of Christ happens at the last trump, after the "man of sin" is revealed. In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Paul explicitly warns believers not to be deceived: the Day of Christ cannot come until there is a great falling away and the son of perdition is revealed. This false messiah will exalt himself and sit in the temple of God, claiming to be God.

You seem to think the day of Christ is "rapture day", but that doesn't make sense when you consider this was troubling news that rapture day is here.

No, the apostle was telling them to not be concerned about being gathered to Jesus, as though the day of Christ/day of the Lord is here, because that day, the day of Christ/day of the Lord won't come until these other things happen first. Not the gathering to our Lord, but the day of Christ/day of the Lord, a dark day of judgment and wrath. That's what was troubling to them. Telling them this day of wrath is here.

A simple test is to ask you, the "Sheep / Goats Judgment" prophecy, will it be fulfilled exactly as written?

Much love!

 

[William Barton]

Sel@h noted:

<Lucifer's destiny>

IMO:
The citation addresses the King of Tyre, and also addresses the expulsion from heaven of his advocate Lucifer. This suggests that cherubim can influence human behavior.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Sel@h, or anyone else, give it a try. If you succeed, you will be the only Post Tribber to do so. See below and good luck. You should know all the scriptures were these items are found in case you want to check it out.


For those who put the Rapture and the Second Coming at roughly the same time, I offer this list of contrasts between the Rapture and the Second Coming. Each number in one section corresponds to the same number in the other/lower section. This is also a list that supports the Rapture happening before the Tribulation, and the Second Coming happening at the end of the Tribulation.

At the Rapture:
1. Christ comes FOR His own in the air
2. All believers are translated into new bodies
3. Christians are taken to the Father's House
4. There is no judgment on the earth
5. The Church will be in Heaven
6. It is an imminent occurrence
7. There are no signs preceding it
8. It affects believers only
9. It is a time of joy
10. it occurs before the day of Wrath
11. No mention of Satan
12. The Judgment Seat of Christ happens next
13. There is the marriage of the Lamb
14. Only Christ's own will see him
15. The Tribulation begins

At the Second Coming:
1. Christ comes WITH his own to the earth
2. No Translation of bodies
3. resurrected saints remain on earth
4. Christ judges the inhabitants of the earth
5. Christ sets up his kingdom on earth
6. It can not occur until the seven-year Trib period
7. There are numerous signs preceding it
8. It affects all humanity
9. It is a time of mourning
10. It occurs after the Tribulation
11. Satan is bound in abyss 1,000 years
12. No judgment seat of Christ
13. His bride descends with him to earth
14. Every eye will see him
15. The millennial reign of Christ begins

You're wasting your time. This list proves nothing. All you're doing is claiming that those are separate events while doing literally nothing to do so. Most of those things are all aspects of the same one event, namely the second coming of Christ. To try to turn them into two separate events makes no sense and these lists certainly do not prove your case at all. In 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 Jesus is described as coming both with and for His own, but you try to say that Him coming with His own is one event and for His own is another. That's an example of how you have to twist scripture to turn the rapture and Christ's second coming into two separate events.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You seem to think the day of Christ is "rapture day", but that doesn't make sense when you consider this was troubling news that rapture day is here.

It makes complete sense since Paul very clearly referred to "the day of Christ" (or "the day of the Lord") in the same context as Christ's coming and our being gathered to HIm (the rapture).

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Apart from doctrinal bias, this passage is very simple to understand. In verse 1, Paul introduces the topic of "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and...our gathering together unto him". An obvious reference to what we call the rapture, as Paul described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. Then in verse 2, instead of him again referring to the day of "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and...our gathering together unto him" he simply referred to it as "the day of Christ". That should be obvious apart from doctrinal bias. And then in verse 3 he refers to "that day", which again refers to the day of "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and...our gathering together unto him" which he also called "the day of Christ". Paul did not introduce the topic of "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and...our gathering together unto him" in verse 1 only to inexplicably change the topic in the very next verse. But, that's what you believe for no apparent reason.

No, the apostle was telling them to not be concerned about being gathered to Jesus, as though the day of Christ/day of the Lord is here, because that day, the day of Christ/day of the Lord won't come until these other things happen first. Not the gathering to our Lord, but the day of Christ/day of the Lord, a dark day of judgment and wrath. That's what was troubling to them. Telling them this day of wrath is here.

The day of Christ/day of the Lord is a dark day of judgment and wrath for unbelievers. Not believers. That's why Paul wrote this after describing what will happen to believers when Jesus comes in 1 Thess 4:14-17...

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

So, we can see from verse 2 and 3 why the day of the Lord is called elsewhere a dark day of judgment and wrath. It will bring "sudden destruction" upon unbelievers from which "they shall not escape". But, then look at verse 4 above. Paul points out that day will not overtake believers as a thief like it will unbelievers. That is because believers will be changed to put on bodily immortality and caught up to meet the Lord in the air on that day rather than experiencing the "sudden destruction" that unbelievers will experience on that day.

A simple test is to ask you, the "Sheep / Goats Judgment" prophecy, will it be fulfilled exactly as written?

When Jesus returns. What are you testing exactly with this question?

 

[Sel@h]

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Sel@h, or anyone else, give it a try. If you succeed, you will be the only Post Tribber to do so. See below and good luck. You should know all the scriptures were these items are found in case you want to check it out.


For those who put the Rapture and the Second Coming at roughly the same time, I offer this list of contrasts between the Rapture and the Second Coming. Each number in one section corresponds to the same number in the other/lower section. This is also a list that supports the Rapture happening before the Tribulation, and the Second Coming happening at the end of the Tribulation.

At the Rapture:
1. Christ comes FOR His own in the air
2. All believers are translated into new bodies
3. Christians are taken to the Father's House
4. There is no judgment on the earth
5. The Church will be in Heaven
6. It is an imminent occurrence
7. There are no signs preceding it
8. It affects believers only
9. It is a time of joy
10. it occurs before the day of Wrath
11. No mention of Satan
12. The Judgment Seat of Christ happens next
13. There is the marriage of the Lamb
14. Only Christ's own will see him
15. The Tribulation begins

At the Second Coming:
1. Christ comes WITH his own to the earth
2. No Translation of bodies
3. resurrected saints remain on earth
4. Christ judges the inhabitants of the earth
5. Christ sets up his kingdom on earth
6. It can not occur until the seven-year Trib period
7. There are numerous signs preceding it
8. It affects all humanity
9. It is a time of mourning
10. It occurs after the Tribulation
11. Satan is bound in abyss 1,000 years
12. No judgment seat of Christ
13. His bride descends with him to earth
14. Every eye will see him
15. The millennial reign of Christ begins

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Sel@h, or anyone else, give it a try. If you succeed, you will be the only Post Tribber to do so. See below and good luck. You should know all the scriptures were these items are found in case you want to check it out.


For those who put the Rapture and the Second Coming at roughly the same time, I offer this list of contrasts between the Rapture and the Second Coming. Each number in one section corresponds to the same number in the other/lower section. This is also a list that supports the Rapture happening before the Tribulation, and the Second Coming happening at the end of the Tribulation.

At the Rapture:
1. Christ comes FOR His own in the air
2. All believers are translated into new bodies
3. Christians are taken to the Father's House
4. There is no judgment on the earth
5. The Church will be in Heaven
6. It is an imminent occurrence
7. There are no signs preceding it
8. It affects believers only
9. It is a time of joy
10. it occurs before the day of Wrath
11. No mention of Satan
12. The Judgment Seat of Christ happens next
13. There is the marriage of the Lamb
14. Only Christ's own will see him
15. The Tribulation begins

At the Second Coming:
1. Christ comes WITH his own to the earth
2. No Translation of bodies
3. resurrected saints remain on earth
4. Christ judges the inhabitants of the earth
5. Christ sets up his kingdom on earth
6. It can not occur until the seven-year Trib period
7. There are numerous signs preceding it
8. It affects all humanity
9. It is a time of mourning
10. It occurs after the Tribulation
11. Satan is bound in abyss 1,000 years
12. No judgment seat of Christ
13. His bride descends with him to earth
14. Every eye will see him
15. The millennial reign of Christ begins

Hi…

On your SECOND COMING list, number 2 is wrong. Read first Corinthians 15:52 where we are changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus comes back at the 7th trump. #6: Jesus returns after the great tribulation. #9: It is not a time of mourning for the Elect /followers of Christ. #12: The Great White Throne Judgment follows the Millennium. The Millennium begins when Jesus returns.

 

[ewq1938]

The Millennium begins when Jesus returns.

After actually. Jesus returns before Armageddon is fought/has ended. Only some point after that will the Millennium start. Maybe that's a minor difference but could be important.

 

[Sel@h]

After actually. Jesus returns before Armageddon is fought/has ended. Only some point after that will the Millennium start. Maybe that's a minor difference but could be important.

I’ve often wondered about that; I’ve heard it both ways. If we’re changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus returns at the last trump and we’re in spiritual bodies, that would mean we’ve entered another dimension. I believe that dimension is the Millennium, the Kingdom of God. I’ve heard the battle of Armageddon is super quick. I don’t know, but one day I will. Thanks, ewq.

 

[rebuilder 454]

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There are a few in the “At

Hi…

On your SECOND COMING list, number 2 is wrong. Read first Corinthians 15:52 where we are changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus comes back at the 7th trump. #6: Jesus returns after the great tribulation. #9: It is not a time of mourning for the Elect /followers of Christ. #12: The Great White Throne Judgment follows the Millennium. The Millennium begins when Jesus returns.

Postrib erroneous talking points.
Easily debunked

 

[William Barton]

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There are a few in the “At

Hi…

On your SECOND COMING list, number 2 is wrong. Read first Corinthians 15:52 where we are changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus comes back at the 7th trump. #6: Jesus returns after the great tribulation. #9: It is not a time of mourning for the Elect /followers of Christ. #12: The Great White Throne Judgment follows the Millennium. The Millennium begins when Jesus returns.

I would say the rapture is not imminent, rather there are other signs that must proceed it.

I’ve often wondered about that; I’ve heard it both ways. If we’re changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus returns at the last trump and we’re in spiritual bodies, that would mean we’ve entered another dimension. I believe that dimension is the Millennium, the Kingdom of God. I’ve heard the battle of Armageddon is super quick. I don’t know, but one day I will. View attachment 93216 Thanks, ewq.

Sel@h noted:

<I've often wondered about that.>

IMO:
Jesus will return from heaven to a cloud and catch up believers, so that they may avoid the coming bowl judgments in the Middle East. See 1Thessalonians 4:16-17, which is depicted in Revelation 14:16.

"Armageddon" is a Greek word carried over from Hebrew "Har Megiddo" = "Mountain of Megiddo." This mountain is actually a "tel" at the foot of the plain of Megiddo, been there, seen it.This plain is a great place to have a battle, and battles have been fought there before. Jesus and his angels will engage Satan and his angels there, see Revelation 19:11-21. Crunch time!

 

[ewq1938]

I’ve often wondered about that; I’ve heard it both ways. If we’re changed in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus returns at the last trump and we’re in spiritual bodies, that would mean we’ve entered another dimension.

Why? Christ ws in an immortal body in this dimension and walked with plain old mortal humans. Rev 20 shows the resurrection happening before the Mill starts. Same day though. Also, satan will be imprisoned at the same moment the Mill begins, both after the resurrection happens which is at the second coming.

I believe that dimension is the Millennium, the Kingdom of God. I’ve heard the battle of Armageddon is super quick. I don’t know, but one day I will. View attachment 93216 Thanks, ewq.

I believe Arm happens after the resurrection and before the Mill begins. IMO the Mill is not a dif dimension nor the eternity, nor on the new Earth. It's this sme old place and same old humans but l;ed strictl;y by immortal Christians and Christ with satan temp. removed.

 

[Sel@h]

I believe Arm happens after the resurrection and before the Mill begins. IMO the Mill is not a dif dimension nor the eternity, nor on the new Earth. It's this sme old place and same old humans but l;ed strictl;y by immortal Christians and Christ with satan temp. removed.

Say again?