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All I want to know is what teh question is, why you beating round teh bush, if it s teh OP question fine, if it is another you have than please explain.
Jesus would have to walk in, He didn't just materialize, He goes directly to a certain man.
verse 5, And a CERTAIN man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
Does this not indicate Jesus went looking for him? Unless of course, he just materialized.
The angel would come, stir the waters, healing whoever jumped in FIRST not healing whoever jumped in. Only 1 person got the healing. How does this say more than 1 person was healed? If more than 1 person was healed at a time then the place wouldn't be jammed pack with sick people.
verse 4, whosoever then FIRST after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had
If he didn't believe what Jesus said, he would never have left the mat.
verse 9, And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked.
If I'm going to punished then someone has to apologize to Jesus. Your lame threats don't scare me.
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John 5
12 Then they asked him, “Who is the Man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?”
13 But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place.
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Because of this.
Psalm 23
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
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So you are presuming that he was not there because it does not specifically say that he was. That written example is not the only reason I believe what I do, but even if I were to write a long Bible supported discourse, it likely would not change your position.
Most people do add or subtract from what it can clearly be shown by scriptures in order to explain what they believe. Often the reason they cannot do more is simply that while they believe it in their heart they cannot state precisely the scriptures that state it or support it that some other person will always understand. This means perhaps that they are not really theologians or that God hasn't put the words in their mouth. It doesn't mean they are wrong. Of course, neither does it mean that they are right.
Should we pull out our swords to do battle until one stands victorious and the other lies silently in his own blood? Wouldn't it be better to stand quietly apart on the issue with each of us following where the Holy Spirit leads to the end of our course? If we are following carefully will not God take each of us to where He wants us to be? Who else can do it? Not me!
I never presummed anything. If you have scripture please show me. If you have a long discourse with no scripture I wont believe it.
If its bible supported and all verses in context which many people dont even know what in context is.
If you can show me more scripture I will look intently. No an explian ation just the scripture it doesnt have to me long. it only has to be scripture I understand scripture.
As you already know and as I have said previously it is not I but God who gives the increase. If increase comes by me, it is God who worked through me. If I am wrong on any point, then it means on that point that I missed God. That certainly has happened before. This is why I pray and read and study daily. In spite of this, I know that sometimes I have quenched God's Spirit. When I recognize that I have I look to the Lord to fix what I cannot fix:
"Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase." I Cor 3:5-7
The time will come to meet Him face to face. I am surrendering now in order to be there at that time. It may be sooner than I expect:
"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12
For now what I see is that you are too strong in this, or to use another word, too rich in what you know. What is the difference between being rich and being humble? Not even God can break that strength, because it is within the dominion that He gave to you. But you are only a steward for now. Remember that.
"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Matt 19:23-24
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What are you talking about man? Read the OP its about should we praise God or doctors. Nothing to do with increase I knew you would do this. stick with the subject matter please.
We know that lets not be silly.
No He never. there you go again. He went after He learned the man had been ill 38 years
Why are you talking like this? Please try and stay sensible.
No He never went looking for him. You said that God never. He went in learned of a man who was sick 38 years THEN HE WENT TO HIM.
If they could jump in they would not need healed. Lol. We are not talking about the angles stirring the waters and one gets healed we know that its in black and white. We are talking about what YOU said Jesus only healed ONE. Try and stay with the program.
Yes blatantly obvious
ThanksHe believed because He new he was healed. It says NOTHING about what He believed. do add to it.
And that is why He got up HE WAS HEALED, Then He believed cause he knew what happened,
No one is threatning you were do you get this nonsense. And no one is punishing you. And no one will need to apoligisse to Jesus.
Please dont add to scripture.
Since Jesus is the Angel that stirred the waters and would only heal one person why would Jesus switch it up and heal more? Or, are you reading into scripture believing that angels have healing powers?
Oh come on, you don't think there would have been someone to jump in coz they had a hangnail?
Jesus is an Angle Really? where do you get this. Hope you not adding again?
Apart from that is thsi all you have to say to my post no counter to all the thing you came here telling one and all what You thought you knew?
This is what my post is cut to?
I'm just letting the Bible interpret the Bible and you're always accusing me of making stuff up. If you don't like what I post, why read it?
Welcome to the ranks of the accused. He does that to everyone. Just wait until he threatens to put you on his "ignore list".
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You would think God was a fool. There was a reason Jesus spent much time in prayer, always desiring to know His fathers will, pretty much following in Gods road. Of course Jesus knew the man was ill, to think any less would be to make Him like us, fully.
You seemingly wanted an explanation of where I was coming from... so I gave it. I am sorry if it has moved the focus away from your OP.
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