It is not in the bible.....sola scripture

[GodsGrace]

no, the war for control of who defines things, the Webster's...1842? edition is still widely considered to be the last uncorrupted dictionary, etc.

I think we're discussing this very concept on another thread.
BTW, I didn't get an alert for this...
Easy to miss posts.

 

[GodsGrace]

probably, but it looks like the stakes in that one were just diamonds and gold or whatever

it's hard to google, but "dictionary wars" (not 'dictionary OF wars') would get you started

Oh please...
I'm having enough trouble trying to understand YOU!

 

[GodsGrace]

bby,

When you make statements like this, I consider that you ought to provide a link that documents your statements.

Oz

Yeah.
I didn't understand him either.
But that's nothing new...!

Do they say "yeah" in Aussie land?

 

[bbyrd009]

my best reply to this might be that people still seek a Webster's 1842--i think it is--for some reason, and Strong's is now widely considered to be corrupted, etc., so it's just something you are either aware of, or not, it's not a biggie i guess. People die trying to make sure that the correct definitions get published, and they are killed by ppl with power who want a different definition to be propagated, it is just the human condition in a different frame really

 

[GodsGrace]

my best reply to this might be that people still seek a Webster's 1842--i think it is--for some reason, and Strong's is now widely considered to be corrupted, etc., so it's just something you are either aware of, or not, it's not a biggie i guess. People die trying to make sure that the correct definitions get published, and they are killed by ppl with power who want a different definition to be propagated, it is just the human condition in a different frame really

Didn't know the meaning of words was changing!!

 

[OzSpen]

sorry, i looked, and other terminology that is very close to "dictionary conspiracy" et al gets in the way. Googling "dictionary conspiracy" takes on to a definition of "conspiracy" lol, i mean that's how bad it is. I posted one this morning, "dictionary wars" though, fwiw. I just googled "conspiracies about dictionaries" and got 10 pages of yack about how to define "conspiracy," so iow either i and ol' Noah were nuts, or the real story is being occluded either intentionally or not

Therefore, don't make statements like this: 'there is a well documented silent war going on for control of these publications, like, people have died even', when you can't back it up with documented evidence.

You may have heard it somewhere at some time, but that's not objective evidence.

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

Yeah.
I didn't understand him either.
But that's nothing new...!

Do they say "yeah" in Aussie land?

yeah and nah were shipped Down Under. Was that by Columbus? See HERE.

'Yah know' is the one that gets on my goat!

Oz

 

[GodsGrace]

yeah and nah were shipped Down Under. Was that by Columbus? See HERE.

'Yah know' is the one that gets on my goat!

Oz

Oh my gosh.
Don't move to NY!!

 

[GodsGrace]

yeah and nah were shipped Down Under. Was that by Columbus? See HERE.

'Yah know' is the one that gets on my goat!

Oz

I got things
I gotta do!!!

Oh no.
I'm a stickler for properly spoken English.
I taught my children that if there's one thing they MUST learn in school --- it was English.

They listened and obeyed.

 

[bbyrd009]

Didn't know the meaning of words was changing!!

ha, constantly. Tares are made into "weeds," etc. All of the time. Hope is now different from Pray, Belief is now = Faith, on and on.

 

[bbyrd009]

You may have heard it somewhere at some time, but that's not objective evidence.

i read a book on the matter, but it was a long time ago. And i am not trying to offer evidence in court anyway, it is either something you are aware of--that definitions are fought over, for big stakes--more or less, or you aren't. "Dictionary wars" would be a better source than me for this i guess, and i mean i didn't make up Dictionary Wars, even if i never heard of that before this morning lol, i kind of actually did make that up, but i googled it and voila!

i mean pls a lot of believers have heard that Jesus is physically coming back to save them, again, or whatever, and take them to some place called heaven, too, on lots less evidence, seems to me.

It is something i mentioned in passing, anyway, and it is apparently well-documented enough that someone has written a book called Dictionary Wars, right.

 

[Truth]

I agree.
Doctrine cannot be made using one verse.
The Bible is a complete thought and this must always be taken into consideration.
Do you feel I've done this?

NO! It is a condition of condition's, In Matthew 5 17- Jesus say's THINK NOT!!!! [Not you] but to many people that say they believe tend to believe this very statement. Why should I think when my Church Leader, who went to seminary knows what it means! This is where the word gets twisted, again Theology! what man thinks!

 

[GodsGrace]

NO! It is a condition of condition's, In Matthew 5 17- Jesus say's THINK NOT!!!! [Not you] but to many people that say they believe tend to believe this very statement. Why should I think when my Church Leader, who went to seminary knows what it means! This is where the word gets twisted, again Theology! what man thinks!

Theology is good.
There have always been theologians.
Paul was one.

The problem is that we now have modern day ones that are changing Christianity.

So you don't trust man...
But it seems to me that the Holy Spirit also seems to tell different persons different ideas...

Solution??

 

[Truth]

Theology is good.
There have always been theologians.
Paul was one.

The problem is that we now have modern day ones that are changing Christianity.

So you don't trust man...
But it seems to me that the Holy Spirit also seems to tell different persons different ideas...

Solution??

Paul was a master of the five books of Moses, He studied under Gamaliael, who to this day is revered by the Jews. Consider this that Our savior choose Paul because He was a Master of the Word, who better to send out to the Gentiles. Paul could Quote the Five books word for word.
No ! I do not trust many men, I Trust in the Spirit that has lead me into more Truth than any Preacher ever has.
Maybe the Spirit reveals something to one and something to another, but we all have to weigh what we hear, especially from others, I always tell others do not believe me, check it out to see if it lines up with the Word! By the way! not everyone is of the right Spirit!!!

 

[OzSpen]

i read a book on the matter, but it was a long time ago. And i am not trying to offer evidence in court anyway, it is either something you are aware of--that definitions are fought over, for big stakes--more or less, or you aren't. "Dictionary wars" would be a better source than me for this i guess, and i mean i didn't make up Dictionary Wars, even if i never heard of that before this morning lol, i kind of actually did make that up, but i googled it and voila!

i mean pls a lot of believers have heard that Jesus is physically coming back to save them, again, or whatever, and take them to some place called heaven, too, on lots less evidence, seems to me.

It is something i mentioned in passing, anyway, and it is apparently well-documented enough that someone has written a book called Dictionary Wars, right.

 

[OzSpen]

Oh my gosh.
Don't move to NY!!

The closest I lived to NY was Ashland OH, old order Amish country, and a couple visits to NY were enough.

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

Theology! what man thinks!

I hope you understand that that statement gives us a perspective on your theology - yes, you as a human being teach theology on CFnet. Do you want us to read what you say and consider its content?

 

[Truth]

I hope you understand that that statement gives us a perspective on your theology - yes, you as a human being teach theology on CFnet. Do you want us to read what you say and consider its content?

As I said search what ever I say out, never take what any one says for Gospel.

 

[epostle1]

All of the above also applies to YOU!!
Of course, Catholics are right about everything...
God must be a Catholic.

I just hope you realize that all catholic dogma, except the very first hundred years, were arrived at after much time and thought.

The essential truths from the very first hundred years have not changed to this very day. Development of Doctrine: A Corruption of Biblical Teaching?

Doesn't the bible say that we are not to add to scripture?

That is an anti-Catholic myth. Can you quote an "added" verse? Or maybe you mean the 7 books that were subtracted from Scripture because they disagreed with Luther's opinions?

Doesn't it say that Jesus is the LAST revelation?

The CC has always taught that Sacred Scripture was the end of public revelation, you have been misinformed.

 

[GodsGrace]

Paul was a master of the five books of Moses, He studied under Gamaliael, who to this day is revered by the Jews. Consider this that Our savior choose Paul because He was a Master of the Word, who better to send out to the Gentiles. Paul could Quote the Five books word for word.
No ! I do not trust many men, I Trust in the Spirit that has lead me into more Truth than any Preacher ever has.
Maybe the Spirit reveals something to one and something to another, but we all have to weigh what we hear, especially from others, I always tell others do not believe me, check it out to see if it lines up with the Word! By the way! not everyone is of the right Spirit!!!

How do we learn from each other or others?
I do believe that we could open up new insights and get a new perspective on something.

But I believe we should be taught from churches, from accredited theologians and persons who have PhD's.

What we need to know for salvation is in the N.T. and we could read about that and gleen it on our own. If we want to go beyond that, we need real teachers. Teachers that teach traditional christianity and not this new fandangled stuff...Christianity watered down so as to be more easily digested.