Co- Redemptrix

[BreadOfLife]

BOL, you are not catholic though!

No - I'm a Catholic, whereas,m YOU are a Radical Traditionalist, sede vacantist.
BIG difference.

 

[Helen]

No - I'm a Catholic, whereas,m YOU are a Radical Traditionalist, sede vacantist.
BIG difference.

Oh glory be...
And didn't you and Marymong ask how on earth did all the protestants get their many denominations ?
Well now you know!! LOL

 

[BreadOfLife]

BOL, you accuse the protestants of twisting and misusing scripture, what a hypocrite!

[John 15:22] Take notice that Jesus DID SPEAK to them, which means that He gave them the gospel but they rejected the truth. Which means that they are guilty of the sin of unbelief. Which is a sin against the Holy Ghost!!!

Matthew 12:32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come."

Invincible ignorance is a lie.

2 Corinthians 4:3 And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost,"

BOL, you are busted!

And, as usual - you quote the Scriptures OUT of context.

All of these passages speak to those who reject God - not the invincibly ignorant who don't know any better.
Keep studying - you'll get there

 

[tabletalk]

Which Protestant doctrine have I espoused?

I meant the disagreements that you and truth333 have, sound like the Protestant confusion at times.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh glory be...
And didn't you and Marymong ask how on earth all the protestant got all their denominations from?
Well now you know!! LOL

You're a real hoot sometimes:).
Merry Christmas!

 

[BreadOfLife]

I meant the disagreements that you and truth333 have, sound like the Protestant confusion at times.

Well, he IS a Protestant, as ALL sede vacantists are.
They reject the Authority of the Church - yet they claim to be Catholic.

They are more confused than any Protestants I know . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Likely it is just the splintering that caught her eye!

Yup.

 

[amadeus]

I am completely aware of the old testament and the new testament, regarding continuity and symmetry.

“The New is in the Old Concealed, the Old is in the New Revealed”

The KJV actually proves the teachings of the catholic church. As just one example, here.

The Bible Proves The Papacy

If you would like, I would debate you regarding the papacy.

And what would be the point of such a debate? I am no expert on the papacy in spite of my Catholic history Are you thinking of re-converting me to Catholicism?

I was water baptized Catholic at age six and it was my first clear memory of believing God. I was confirmed as a Catholic with the name of "Amadeus", which I have used on Internet forums for a great many years. A Franciscan nun loaned me a book of good Christian names from which I made the selection. I was an active altar boy and devout Catholic until I graduated from high school in 1961. I was planning to enter the priesthood, but my mother got together with the parish priest to delay it. Obviously I never made to the seminary.

In spite of what your friendly Catholic enemies here might say, I have never been anti-Catholic. I actually backslid from Catholicism. When God drew me back to Him on another avenue, but definitely through Jesus.

 

[Helen]

You're a real hoot sometimes:).
Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas to you too BOL
This Site would not be the same without you... :)
I admire all that you put into what you believe.
I am sure the Lord does too. ✟

 

[tabletalk]

Well, he IS a Protestant, as ALL sede vacantists are.
They reject the Authority of the Church - yet they claim to be Catholic.

They are more confused than any Protestants I know . . .

I didn't think that was possible! Merry Christmas to you, and all your Protestant relatives!

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't think that was possible! Merry Christmas to you, and all your Protestant relatives!

Oh, it's possible. Just read truth333's posts . . .

Merry Christmas!

 

[truth333]

And what would be the point of such a debate? I am no expert on the papacy in spite of my Catholic history Are you thinking of re-converting me to Catholicism?

I was water baptized Catholic at age six and it was my first clear memory of believing God. I was confirmed as a Catholic with the name of "Amadeus", which I have used on Internet forums for a great many years. A Franciscan nun loaned me a book of good Christian names from which I made the selection. I was an active altar boy and devout Catholic until I graduated from high school in 1961. I was planning to enter the priesthood, but my mother got together with the parish priest to delay it. Obviously I never made to the seminary.

In spite of what your friendly Catholic enemies here might say, I have never been anti-Catholic. I actually backslid from Catholicism. When God drew me back in it on another avenue, but definitely through Jesus.

"I was an active altar boy and devout Catholic until I graduated from high school in 1961."

Then you should remember the Latin Mass? And that the second vatican council was a revolution [2 thessalonians 2:3]. With the second vatican council came the false altar, over against the true altar of God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"

 

[truth333]

Well, he IS a Protestant, as ALL sede vacantists are.
They reject the Authority of the Church - yet they claim to be Catholic.

They are more confused than any Protestants I know . . .

Actually, all those in the vatican II sect are protestants, with their protestant brothers, and it is also fact, that prominent protestants were at the second vatican council, for their input.

 

[amadeus]

"I was an active altar boy and devout Catholic until I graduated from high school in 1961."

Then you should remember the Latin Mass? And that the second vatican council was a revolution [2 thessalonians 2:3]. With the second vatican council came the false altar, over against the true altar of God.

Of course I remember. In my day the Latin Mass was the only one available in my little town. I still remember some of the responses I made in Latin to the priests I served as altar boy. I attended the only Catholic Church and there was only one Protestant church in town. There was a Mormon church a few miles out of town. No one else was there. I don't personally remember Vatican II because it occurred after I was gone from any Christianity and before I came back. I was out from Catholicism not long after 1961 and returned in 1976 via the UPC.

I learned about Vatican II on the Internet several years ago from a knowledgeable Catholic who had not even been born naturally before Vatican II.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"

I can see where that might support what you believe. You would certainly would not be the first group to use it that way.

 

[bbyrd009]

BOL, you accuse the protestants of twisting and misusing scripture, what a hypocrite!

And, as usual - you quote the Scriptures OUT of context.

move along, these are not the Hegelian Didacts you are looking for...lol

 

[truth333]

And, as usual - you quote the Scriptures OUT of context.

All of these passages speak to those who reject God - not the invincibly ignorant who don't know any better.
Keep studying - you'll get there

It is you, who doesn't know anything but lies. God does not command impossibilities.

Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Session 6, Chap. 11 on Justification, ex cathedra: “… no one should make use of that rash statement forbidden under anathema by the Fathers, that the commandments of God are impossible to observe for a man who is justified. ‘FOR GOD DOES NOT COMMAND IMPOSSIBILITIES, …

Pope St. Pius X, Acerbo Nimis (# 2), April 15, 1905:
“And so Our Predecessor, Benedict XIV, had just cause to write: ‘We declare that a great number of those who are condemned to eternal punishment suffer that everlasting calamity because of ignorance of those mysteries of faith which must be known and believed in order to be numbered among the elect.’”

Pope Gregory XVI, Probe Nostis (#6), Sept. 18, 1840: “We are thankful for the success of apostolic missions in America, the Indies, and other faithless lands…They search out those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death to summon them to the light and life of the Catholic religion… At length they snatch them from the devil’s rule, by the bath of regeneration and promote them to the freedom of God’s adopted sons.”

You MOCK the great catholic missionaries and the things that they suffered in order to save souls! According to you, they wasted their time, it was unnecessary, just leave them ignorant.

Fr. De Smet, S.J., Jan. 26, 1838: “New priests are to be added to the Potawatomi Mission, and my Superior, Father Verhaegen gives me hope that I will be sent. How happy I would be could I spend myself for the salvation of so many souls, who are lost because they have never known truth!”

Fr. De Smet, S.J., Dec. 8, 1841: “My heart aches at the thought of so many souls left to perish for lack of priests to instruct them.”

Fr. De Smet, S.J., Oct. 9, 1844: “What emotion at the sight of this vast country, where, for lack of missionaries, thousands of men are born, grow to manhood, and die in the darkness of infidelity! But now through our efforts, the greater number, if not all, shall know the truth.”

 

[truth333]

move along, these are not the Hegelian Didacts you are looking for...lol

All liars use this pathetic accuse; "taken out of context".

 

[truth333]

Of course I remember. In my day the Latin Mass was the only one available in my little town. I still remember some of the responses I made in Latin to the priests I served as altar boy. I attended the only Catholic Church and there was only one Protestant church in town. There was a Mormon church a few miles out of town. No one else was there. I don't personally remember Vatican II because it occurred after I was gone from any Christianity and before I came back. I was out from Catholicism not long after 1961 and returned in 1976 via the UPC.

I learned about Vatican II on the Internet several years ago from a knowledgeable Catholic who had not even been born naturally before Vatican II.



I can see where that might support what you believe. You would certainly would not be the first group to use it that way.

There is only one way to use it. This is my point. What I cited is just a scratch on the surface. The vatican II sect was prophesied!! Easily, it can be proven.

 

[truth333]

And, as usual - you quote the Scriptures OUT of context.

All of these passages speak to those who reject God - not the invincibly ignorant who don't know any better.
Keep studying - you'll get there

You are such a liar, its disgusting. You cited John 15:22 to make the false point that those who don't know the gospel, have not sinned, i.e. "if I didn't speak to them, they would have no sin", therefore because of their invincible ignorance they are saved. The fact of the matter is, they would not have been guilty of the sin of unbelief. But they would be guilty of the sins of the natural law, that is written on the hearts of all men.

John 15:22
If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin; but as it is they have no excuse for their sin.

You are exposed and busted, you are a fake and a fraud.

 

[truth333]

Of course I remember. In my day the Latin Mass was the only one available in my little town. I still remember some of the responses I made in Latin to the priests I served as altar boy. I attended the only Catholic Church and there was only one Protestant church in town. There was a Mormon church a few miles out of town. No one else was there. I don't personally remember Vatican II because it occurred after I was gone from any Christianity and before I came back. I was out from Catholicism not long after 1961 and returned in 1976 via the UPC.

I learned about Vatican II on the Internet several years ago from a knowledgeable Catholic who had not even been born naturally before Vatican II.

I can see where that might support what you believe. You would certainly would not be the first group to use it that way.

Amadeus, I intend to lay out that the Chair of St. Peter is vacant. The bible makes it so clear.