Which is brought on by the obedience of submitting to WATER Baptism.
Water baptism was for CLEANSING, Before being CLEANSED in the Blood of Christ was revealed.
Now; Water baptism is a requirement to JOIN a Chruch as that Church's member.
Personally I favor Christ's Baptism of the Holy Spirit and His Church that He is the Foundation, the Rock and Head of.
Regardless of what many Protestants believe - Salvation is conditional.
True regardless of what many Protestants OR Catholics OR Jews OR anyone else believes...
Salvation is a Provisional Gift. If one does not CLAIM/Accept their Gift, they don't HAVE it!
You cannot hope to be saved if you simply "Accept Christ" then live a life of disobedience.
I don't HOPE to BE saved. I am saved.
Who says to live a life of disobedience?
Good grief man - Don't you know the POWER of God within a man, LEADS the man in ways that please Him?
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY the one who DOES the will of my Father in heaven.
You should Heavily ponder on that verse...
As you think you are DOING the will of God, by teaching God DOES NOT KEEP MEN SAVED WHO HAVE COMMITED THEIR LIFE TO HIM;
Making Him a Liar!
And this is the mess that is Protestantism.
And your mess that you teach as a Catholic!
guy says that Scripture "taught" him one thing and another guy says that Scripture taught him something completely different.
How can they BOTH be right??
Not a phenomen! You seem presumptuous that EVERY person LEARNS the EXACT same things at the EXACT same time. They don't.
Not ALL of Scripture APPLIES the SAME to everyone.....because DUH, not everyone DOES the exact same thing, at the exact same time.
every Protestant believes in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
So? I would say every born again Protestant believes IN the Rapture....
And? No doubt some Protestants are as lazy as Catholics; sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for some Cleric to TELL THEM WHAT TO BELIEVE, but never bothering to really read and study it for themselves.
is right and WHO is wrong, hmmmmm?
Who is RIGHT, is the guy who Trust to believe and submit unto Christ Thee Lord Jesus.
A Pre-Trib "Rapture" IS wishful thinking because it is nowhere described in Scripture.
Do you really think ALL knowledge and ALL understanding is written in a little book of Scriptures?
Do you really NOT KNOW, the Lords Indwelling Spirit CONTINUES teaching?
You spend so much time badmouthing everyone with "your" absolute "knowledge" and mindful understanding....you miss the opportunity to do what Scripture taught.
Call on the teacher, then sit down, be quite, and Listen!
John 21:25
And there are also MANY other things which Jesus did, the which, IF they should be written every one, I suppose that even the whole itself could not contain the bookS that should be written. Amen.
John 14:16
And I will pray the Father and he SHALL give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you FOR EVER.
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which IS the HOLY GHOST, whom the Father SHALL send in my Name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.
And yet, YOU believe that future Christians will be "pulled out" before further suffering takes place.
This is anti-Biblical nonsense.
Simply; without a big long discussion that surpasses your understanding...
I believe the Lord has blessed the saved and born again with PEACE.
And NO, I do not believe the Tribulation or the Great Tribulation IS a time of PEACE.
And yet, Scripture NEVER speaks of this.
You know, that is Satan's dilemma too.
He can't find writing that does not exist in ink on paper. God Spiritually writes on a mans Heart!
It NEVER talks about or prophesies that the Church will be yanked out of the world before the Tribulation.
The Church has ALWAYS been in the thick of persecution and has NEVER been spared, so what makes you think that it will in the future?
Answer: Wishful thinking and nothing else . . .
Awesome. You have the question and the answer...too bad you are wrong, like so much you say.
If you are asking of Spiritual things, you are poorly prepared student.
is accusing me pf Pope worship a "Spiritual thing"??
Quote me saying that which you claim.
It's nothing more than the usual anti-Catholic manure . . .
FUNNY. First you have to make up something; claim I said it; then you get to spout off your anti-Catholic rhetoric.
Get over yourself. I don't care what the Catholics think or do. And by observing your supposed Catholic teaching; I am thankful to have not been indoctrinated in the nonsense you teach.