The Mark of the Beast.

[brakelite]

I don't want to sound callous or unsympathetic, because the discussion here is certainly focused on a very serious topic. After all, receiving or not receiving the mark is a life and death matter...of eternal consequences. But I must ask the question, is the Bible the foundation of our thinking or not? Because most folk are so busy looking at technology and the things of the world to answer your spiritual questions you are ignoring the fact that regarding any spiritual topic, and that includes eschatology, the Bible interprets itself.

Yes, clearly there will be financial restraints placed on those who refuse to receive the mark, even ultimately the death sentence...but neither the financial restraints,(through an RFID chip or whatever) nor the death penalty, is the mark itself.
Remember, it is the mark OF the beast. Who is this beast? The beast to which the mark belongs is a global religious empire. The mark therefore is that which this empire imposes on the world as a sign or seal of submission to her authority, it is of a spiritual/religious nature. How do we know this? Because the recipients of the mark are set by the prophecy in Revelation 14 itself as being in direct contradistinction to God's people who "keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Revel. 14:12. Remember, we are speaking of an antichrist spirit here...thus the transgression being committed by the bearers of the mark is contrary to, or in place of, the commandments of God. It also reflects that ones faith is no longer in the Creator God, (Revel 14:6,7) but in a counterfeit who claims this spiritual mark as a token of its own authority above that of the true God, but unlike the true God, has to use deception, coercion, force, and threats through the power of state or civil legislation to implement it. Typical ages old Satanic principles at play here. But please guys, we nee to be using the Bible as our source to understanding prophecy. We need to stop prognosticating or using clairvoyance on matters that the Bible doesn't reveal, such as a literal barcode or chip. Do you really believe a chip brings down the wrath of God unprecedented in human history. Come on, think about it. God doesnt care if you use technology to manage your finances. But He does care when you keep mans commandments when they directly contradict His own.

 

[Truth7t7]

The beast to which the mark belongs is a global religious empire. The mark therefore is that which this empire imposes on the world as a sign or seal of submission to her authority, it is of a spiritual/religious nature.

I would disagree brake that the future man of sin, little horn, beast, is a "global religious empire".

Daniel 7:7-11 below, Daniel saw in the vision the little horn/beast of revelation having a body as an individual humale male, being thrown into the eternal flame?

Daniel 11:36-37 Describes the little horn, beast, as being a "King" and denotes him as a human man He, His, Himself, personal pronouns denoting a "Man", that does not desire women. Verse 37 strongly suggest this man will be a Jew, as "He" will not regard "The God Of His Fathers" capital "G" Deity, the true Hebrew God.

Revelation 13:4-6 also denotes the beast as a male human personal pronouns, He, His, Him?

When looking at religious empires such as Israel,Babylon, Etc the feminine is always used She, Her,?

Example She, Her?

Jeremiah 50:9KJB
For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.

Daniel 7:7-11KJV
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Daniel 11:36-37KJV
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Revelation 13:4-6KJV
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

 

[bbyrd009]

God doesnt care if you use technology to manage your finances

the mark might be best described as you being coerced to use dollars that are not even money, but rather debt instruments, $21 Trillion and counting, and see, you cannot practically use any other system; in the world anyway. We even still define, or think of dollars as "money," right

but attempting to issue "money" is what got Lincoln and Kennedy ass'ed, see. oh ya, and Qaddafi. and prolly Hussein too, for refusing to accept dollars for oil

 

[Truth7t7]

the mark might be best described as you being coerced to use dollars that are not even money, but rather debt instruments, $21 Trillion and counting, and see, you cannot practically use any other system; in the world anyway. We even still define, or think of dollars as "money," right

but attempting to issue "money" is what got Lincoln and Kennedy ass'ed, see. oh ya, and Qaddafi. and prolly Hussein too, for refusing to accept dollars for oil

Kennedy fought the Federal Reserve System In Fiat Finance, As He Tried To Maintain The "Gold Standard" Backing US Currency In Good Ole Fort Knox, That Probably Has Red Bricks In The Gold's Place Now?

His Fight For Gold Got Him "Lead"!

BULLIONSTAR BLOGS
Koos Jansen
Posted on 26 Feb 2017 by Koos Jansen

US Mint Releases New Fort Knox “Audit Documentation”. The First Critical Observations.
In response to a FOIA request the US Mint has finally released reports drafted from 1993 through 2008 related to the physical audits of the US official gold reserves. However, the documents released are incomplete and reveal the audit procedures have not been executed proficiently. Moreover, because the Mint could not honor its promises in full the costs ($3,144.96 US dollars) of the FOIA request have been refunded.

 

[brakelite]

I would disagree brake that the future man of sin, little horn, beast, is a "global religious empire".

Daniel 7:7-11 below, Daniel saw in the vision the little horn/beast of revelation having a body as an individual humale male, being thrown into the eternal flame?

Daniel 11:36-37 Describes the little horn, beast, as being a "King" and denotes him as a human man He, His, Himself, personal pronouns denoting a "Man", that does not desire women. Verse 37 strongly suggest this man will be a Jew, as "He" will not regard "The God Of His Fathers" capital "G" Deity, the true Hebrew God.

Revelation 13:4-6 also denotes the beast as a male human personal pronouns, He, His, Him?

When looking at religious empires such as Israel,Babylon, Etc the feminine is always used She, Her,?

Example She, Her?

Jeremiah 50:9KJB
For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.

Daniel 7:7-11KJV
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Daniel 11:36-37KJV
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Revelation 13:4-6KJV
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

I spent 20 years going down that rabbit hole of a future individual antichrist to come who would ravage the church and be the enemy to everything Christian, set himself up as an image in the temple to be worshiped and all variations thereof. Its all bollocks, a concept created by a clever Jesuits in the 16th century to divert the accusatory and accurate fingers away from pointing to the RCC. Futurism and all the theories that accompany it was a part, an integral part, of the counter reformation, and it has worked. I offer the alternative here...The Real Foundation of the RCC.

 

[Truth7t7]

I spent 20 years going down that rabbit hole of a future individual antichrist to come who would ravage the church and be the enemy to everything Christian, set himself up as an image in the temple to be worshiped and all variations thereof. Its all bollocks, a concept created by a clever Jesuits in the 16th century to divert the accusatory and accurate fingers away from pointing to the RCC. Futurism and all the theories that accompany it was a part, an integral part, of the counter reformation, and it has worked. I offer the alternative here...The Real Foundation of the RCC.

The Future Man Of Sin, Antichrist, was seen as a human man by the Early Apostolic Church Fathers, this wasn't a 16th century Jesuit invention.

Justin Martyr 100-165AD

Dialogue With Trypho The Jew, (Chapter 32 & 110)

Dialogue with Trypho (Chapter 32)

Christ ascended to heaven, after He rose again from the dead, the times now running on to their consummation; and he whom Daniel foretells would have dominion for a time, and times, and an half, is even already at the door, about to speak blasphemous and daring things against the Most High. But you, being ignorant of how long he will have dominion, hold another opinion.

Dialogue with Trypho (Chapter 110)

O unreasoning men! understanding not what has been proved by all these passages, that two advents of Christ have been announced: the one, in which He is set forth as suffering, inglorious, dishonoured, and crucified; but the other, in which He shall come from heaven with glory, when the man of apostasy, who speaks strange things against the Most High, shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against us the Christians, who, having learned the true worship of God from the law, and the word which went forth from Jerusalem by means of the apostles of Jesus, have fled for safety to the God of Jacob and God of Israel;

Irenaeus of Lyons, 202AD

Irenaeus, Against Heresies Book V, Chapter XXV

Chapter XXV.-The Fraud, Pride, and Tyrannical Kingdom of Antichrist, as Described by Daniel and Paul.

1. And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king. For he (Antichrist) being endued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an impious, unjust, and lawless one; as an apostate, iniquitous and murderous; as a robber, concentrating in himself [all] satanic apostasy, and setting aside idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising up himself as the only idol, having in himself the multifarious errors of the other idols. This he does, in order that they who do [now] worship the devil by means of many abominations, may serve himself by this one idol, of whom the apostle thus speaks in the second Epistle to the Thessalonians: "Unless there shall come a failing away first, and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God." The apostle therefore clearly points out his apostasy, and that he is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped-that is, above every idol-for these are indeed so called by men, but are not [really] gods; and that he will endeavour in a tyrannical manner to set himself forth as God.

2. Moreover, he (the apostle) has also pointed out this which I have shown in many ways, that the temple in Jerusalem was made by the direction of the true God. For the apostle himself, speaking in his own person, distinctly called it the temple of God. Now I have shown in the third book, that no one is termed God by the apostles when speaking for themselves, except Him who truly is God, the Father of our Lord, by whose directions the temple which is at Jerusalem was constructed for those purposes which I have already mentioned; in which [temple] the enemy shall sit, endeavouring to show himself as Christ, as the Lord also declares: "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, which has been spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him that readeth understand), then let those who are in Judea flee into the mountains; and he who is upon the house-top, let him not come down to take anything out of his house: for there shall then be great hardship, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be."

HIPPOLYTUS OF ROME 170-235AD

TREATISE ON CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST.

5) But as time now presses for the consideration of the question immediately in hand, and as what has been already said in the introduction with regard to the glory of God, may suffice, it is proper that we take the Holy Scriptures themselves in hand, and find out from them what, and of what manner, the coming of Antichrist is; on what occasion and at what time that implores one shall be revealed; and whence and from what I tribe (he shall come); and what his name is, which is indicated by the number in the Scripture; and how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth; and (how) he shall stir up tribulation and persecution against the saints; and how he shall glorify himself as God; and what his end shall be; and how the sudden appearing of the Lord shall be revealed froth heaven; and what the conflagration of the whole world shall be; and what the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints is to be, when they reign together with Christ; and what the punishment of the wicked by fire.

64) These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? who shall bring the conflagration and just judgment upon all who have refused to believe on Him.

 

[brakelite]

The Antichrist is revealed to us through scripture in several different ways. In Daniel 2 he is the mixture of iron and clay. In Daniel 7 he is the little horn. In 2 Thess the man of sin and son of perdition, and in Revelation 13 the first beast.
Just as Nebuchadnezzar was the representative of the entire empire, so also with the ‘man of sin’. Below is an excerpt from a sermon by the renowned preacher and writer Puritan Thomas Manton in the 17th century. Charles Spurgeon testified to Mantons works as being “a mighty mountain of sound theology”

But because he is called the man of sin, here it cometh fitly to be inquired whether Antichrist be an individual person? for ‘that man of sin’ would seem to be some single person. No; he is put for a society and succession of men, that make up the head of the apostate state. As one lion figured the whole kingdom of the Babylonians, and one bear the kingdom of the Medes and Persians, and one leopard the kingdom of the Grecians, Dan. 7, — and there the fourth beast is the fourth kingdom, — so one person that succession of men that head the revolters from Christ. So Dan. 8, a goat figured a succession of kings; so the Assyrian, Isa. 10:5, several kings in that empire; so Isa. 14:9, the king of Babylon, meaning not one but many. So this man of sin doth not note a single man, but a succession of men, a body politic or corporate, under one opposite head to the kingdom of Christ: so the ‘man of God’ is put for all faithful ministers, 2 Tim. 3:17; so ‘honour the king,’ I Peter 2:17, series regum. So o arciereus, Heb. 9:25, ‘The high priest every year entereth into the holy place;’ meaning not one, but the succession of the order; and in reason it must needs be so here. Because Antichrist, from his beginning to his end, from his rise and revelation, till his ruin and destruction, will take up such a long track of time, as cannot fall within the age of any one man, even from the time of the apostles till the end of the world. Antichrist is the head of the apostasy; for here the apostasy and the revelation of the man of sin are tied together; now the mysterious apostasy could not be perfected in a short time.

In this sermon, Manton, like many reformers before him, was applying the prophecy of 2 Thess. concerning the man of sin directly to the papal system.

 

[brakelite]

The real Christ....

Mathew 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple...

The temple, the priesthood, and the religious system including all the ceremonies, the sacrifices, and the law of the Jewish nation go hand in hand. It was the mainstay and focal point of the life of Israel. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater. Greater even than the very High priest who no doubt would take great interest in hearing a report of these words. Greater even than the law itself, because He was the lawgiver.

….38 ¶ Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here…

Jonah was the most powerful and successful of all OT prophets. In all 40 odd chapters of Jeremiah, there is no record of anyone at anytime taking the slightest bit of notice of anything Jeremiah said. Yet Jonah, on the strength of just one or two sermons, converted the entire city of Nineveh of the children of Ishmael totaling maybe 60,000 people. By any standards, that has got to be recorded as a very successful evangelistic campaign. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater than Jonah.

…42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

Solomon was the wisest and wealthiest and most successful of any ruler of the ancient world. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater even than Solomon.

He claimed to be a greater priest than the current high priest of Israel, He claimed to be a greater prophet than Jonah, and He claimed to be a greater King than Solomon. In these three startling claims, we have before us the threefold ministry of Jesus. Priest, prophet, and King.

It has been said, and I think wisely, that the Bible must be understood grammatically before it can be understood theologically. Anti– as in antichrist, according to Strong’s concordance, and like other words having the prefix ‘anti’, means at it’s most basic form “in the room of”, “instead of”, or “in the place of”.
In other words, ‘antichrist’ stands as a substitute. We all know that Satan works by deception. Yet many claim the ‘antichrist’ will be one who will charge in on a black horse guns blazing with fury and hatred directed at all things Christian and opposing with great force the church. Pray tell me, how will the world be deceived by such a tactic as this?
In 2 Thess. 2:1 we are told that there was to be a falling away first, which will reveal the antichrist, or as Paul describes him, the man of sin or son of perdition. Now falling away in this instance is a falling into apostasy; divorce.
Any divorce necessitates a prior favourable relationship. The only other example of a ‘son of perdition’ is Judas Iscariot. Did Judas openly and with force oppose Christ? Did he attack His teachings and disagree with Jesus claims to divinity? Did he argue and debate everything Jesus stood for and seek the destruction of His followers? No. Not by any means. Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss. He betrayed Him with an act of apparent love, fellowship, and friendship. He undermined and betayed Jesus at the same time as claiming Him to be his friend!! This squares perfectly with the meaning of antichrist. He is not an opposer, but a subtle impostor. A counterfeit. An impostor of Jesus Christ. A false copy, or forgery of the true.
Antichrist is therefore a person or power who impersonates the offices of Priesthood, the Prophet or spokesmanship, and the Kingly rule of Christ. The office that ministers for God, speaks for God, and rules for God.

The falling away that Paul spoke indeed did take place just as he said. Jesus’ letter to the church of Ephesus (Revelation 2) reveals the beginning of this process. During the ensuing centuries, political instability within the Roman Empire resulted in Germanic barbarian tribes taking over the former territories of the western portion of the empire. Constantine moved the capital to the east, and Rome was left without a leader. This void was filled by the bishops of Rome, many of whom were more politically minded than religious. Power corrupted them, and by the 6th century the apostasy was well under way, the formation of a church/state union which was the vehicle for the introduction of many pagan superstitions and practices entering the church.

Satan has many counterfeits. Now counterfeits are almost identical to the true. You do not get counterfeit 99$ notes. You get counterfeit 100$ notes. And unless you get trained and disciplined to know intimately the true 100$ note, you will not recognise the false. It has been estimated that every person in America who has regularly handled 100$ notes, has had pass through their hands a counterfeit at least 4 times a year! And not known it!!!! Unless you are intimately acquainted with the true Jesus, how will you recognise the counterfeit?


Dragon/Satan.

His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
He is worshipped. (13:4a)
Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)

Now compare the above with...

God the Father

Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)

The Land-beast or false prophet.

Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
Lamb-like. (13:11)
Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
Applies mark of beast. (13:16)

Now compare:

The Holy Spirit

Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
Directs peoples attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
Grants gifts..gift of miracles eg.(1 Cor. 12:8-11)
Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
Instills life to us, the image of Christ, ‘Christ in us the hope of glory’… (Romans8:8-11,29)
Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)

The sea-beast or antichrist.

Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
Ten diadems. (13:1)
Ten horns (13:1)
Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
Was slain (13:3)
Resurrected (13:3)
Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)

Now compare:

Jesus Christ

Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
Was slain (Rev 5:6)
Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)

Note how very similar the prophetic characteristics of antichrist are to Jesus.

So do the above attributes of the sea beast match any entity or individual in the world today? How does the above sea-beast or antichrist counterfeit the threefold ministry of the true Christ, as Priest, Prophet and King? Is there an entity in the world today who claims to do just this? Is there one like Judas who is betraying the Master with a kiss, all the while claiming to be a friend? Is there in the world today a religious system or religious ruler who claims to be the earthly representative of Christ as His priest, claiming to be a mediator between God and man? Claiming to forgive sin even, which is the sole prerogative of God, and Biblically and in particular applying to Jesus?
Does this entity also claim the prerogatives of a prophet? Does it claim to speak for God in spiritual matters? Does it claim to stand as God’s spokesman on earth and claim that only through it’s authority can salvation be found, and that when speaking officially is considered on a par with scripture, that is infallible?
And finally, does this entity also claim to be a king? Does it claim authority as a secular power? Does it exercise authority and power within the auspices of a church/state relationship?

The answer my friends to all the above questions is a firm yes.There is an entity in the world today who claims all the above Godly prerogatives which belong only to Jesus Christ. Priest, prophet and king.This entity has set itself up as counterfeit and thus can be affirmatively identified as the Antichrist, the impostor and impersonator of the true. And this entity can be found only in the Roman Catholic church system.

 

[Naomi25]

I agree with the OP. "Placing the mark on the forehead or the hand" is another way of illustrating that a person's thoughts and actions are controlled or directed by what they follow. In this case, God or the Antichrist.

 

[Helen]

I agree with the OP. "Placing the mark on the forehead or the hand" is another way of illustrating that a person's thoughts and actions are controlled or directed by what they follow.

And everyone will be shocked if the Mark turns out to be the the “prescious” cell phones that people don’t seem to be able to live without.
It is always “In the hand” and in the forehead....it’s where a persons “thoughts and actions are controlled”

 

[Truth7t7]

I agree with the OP. "Placing the mark on the forehead or the hand" is another way of illustrating that a person's thoughts and actions are controlled or directed by what they follow. In this case, God or the Antichrist.

100 years ago the mark was a tattoo, then in the 70s it was the bar code, now it's the microchip?

One thing I do know, it's going to be a matter of deception as the verse below explains, false miracles, and elsewhere it explains fire from heaven?

I think Hollywood is gonna be envious of this smoke and mirrors show.

Revelation 19:20KJV
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Naomi25]

And everyone will be shocked if the Mark turns out to be the the “prescious” cell phones that people don’t seem to be able to live without.
It is always “In the hand” and in the forehead....it’s where a persons “thoughts and actions are controlled”

100 years ago the mark was a tattoo, then in the 70s it was the bar code, now it's the microchip?

One thing I do know, it's going to be a matter of deception as the verse below explains, false miracles, and elsewhere it explains fire from heaven?

I think Hollywood is gonna be envious of this smoke and mirrors show.

Revelation 19:20KJV
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Is it possible that the Mark will be a microchip or a phone? Sure. It's possible. Who knows what the AC will ultimately use to enforce his will. Probably many things, I imagine. But narrowing it down beforehand it a bit pointless. At this point in time, it's only tech. Tech that is not, in and of itself, good or evil. Do people do good and bad things with tech? All the time. The same internet that delivers porn also delivers the gospel to millions.
I think all we can do in our own times, it be aware of how we use what we have. Do we use it for God's glory? Are we, in anyway, declaring someone else's glory when we use it?

 

[brakelite]

The technology will be used to enforce compliance or to punish if compliance is withheld. If everyone is chipped, then it is a easy task to turn off bank accounts and access to services etc simply by deleting the chip. You become a non-person. But that will just be the beginning. Other penalties will be imposed then finally the death penalty. The mark is a religious conviction,a thing settled in the mind, sealed in the forehead/conscience. Or if the mark is accepted out of convenience, for example you agree for the sake of food or a roof over your head, then on the hand. But the mark is the opposite, the satanic counterfeit, to the seal of God, which is granted to those who are finally and unquestioningly settled into truth.
But the technology remember will never be the actual mark of the beast...people are guessing at what the mark is before they even work out who the beast is. How sensible is that? The beast is a religious counterfeit of the true Christ...the antichrist. Therefore the mark is a religious counterfeit of the spiritual mark of the true Christ.

 

[Truth7t7]

The technology will be used to enforce compliance or to punish if compliance is withheld. If everyone is chipped, then it is a easy task to turn off bank accounts and access to services etc simply by deleting the chip. You become a non-person. But that will just be the beginning. Other penalties will be imposed then finally the death penalty. The mark is a religious conviction,a thing settled in the mind, sealed in the forehead/conscience. Or if the mark is accepted out of convenience, for example you agree for the sake of food or a roof over your head, then on the hand. But the mark is the opposite, the satanic counterfeit, to the seal of God, which is granted to those who are finally and unquestioningly settled into truth.
But the technology remember will never be the actual mark of the beast...people are guessing at what the mark is before they even work out who the beast is. How sensible is that? The beast is a religious counterfeit of the true Christ...the antichrist. Therefore the mark is a religious counterfeit of the spiritual mark of the true Christ.

I Agree The Beast Is A Counterfeit Of The True Christ, And Yes The True Christ Was A Human Man, That Walked With People On Earth, The Beast/Antichrist Will Do The Same In A Male Human Body.

Brake you give power to this beast and disregard the "Two Witnesses" and protection of God as Identified below, Its gonna be a God controlled Tribulation, Can't you see the remake Of Moses, Aaron, against Pharoh?

Questions Please Answer?
1. Two Witnesses , Power Over All Plagues?
2. God Protects Sealed Believers, Rev 9:4?
3. God Protects Believers From Final Hour, Rev 3:10, Isaiah 26:20-21?
4. God Protects Believers Rev 13:9-10?

Don't See The Future "Antichrist/Beast Ruling As Many Teach And Claim?

Rev 11:1-15 Is A Good Summary Of The Tribulation, The Two Witnesses Will Be In Control, Just Like The Day's Of Moses, Aaron, And Pharoh In Egypt, Same Scenario

Revelation 11:3-6 & 10KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Rev 9:4 The Saved Believers Are Sealed And Protected From The Plagues, The Holy Spirit Seals The Believers Until The Day Of Redemption "Eternity"! Eph 1:13, 4:30.

Ephesians 1:13KJV
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It Was Commanded Them, God's Instruction, Don't Hurt The Green Food Or Sealed Believers!

Revelation 9:4King James Version (KJV)
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

The Antichrist Has His Seat And Power For 42 Months Rev 13:5 Or 1260 Days, So Do The Two Witnesses Rev 11:3 , Who Will Stand As Moses And Aaron Did Against Pharoh, "Day For Day"!

Gotta Clean The Ole Brain Out From The False Teachings In Propaganda, The Left Behind Series, Movies, ETC, False Deception!

Revelation 3:9-13 Paints A good Picture Of The Church In The Tribulation, Hope Ya Get It!

Revelation 3:9-13KJV
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

God's protection during the Hour of Temptation, As Seen In Isaiah 26:20-21, Just Like the "Passover" in Egypt.

Isaiah 26:20-21KJV
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Exodus 12:23
For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Were The Hebrews Living In Fear During The Plagues In Egypt?

Exodus 9:26KJV
Only in the land of Goshen, where the children of Israel were, was there no hail.

Isaiah 26:3KJV
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Many False Fear Preachers & Teachers Keep Silent On The "Two Witnesses" Seen In Revelation Chapter 11, And Silenced Also Is The Fact That Only Those Unsaved/Unsealed Will Be Affected By The Plagues As Seen Commanded In Revelation 9:4.

"Many Are Misled By False Teaching", That Many Will Have To Receive The Mark Or Worship The Beast, Refusal Will Be Death/Beheaded?

100% False, Those That Receive The Future Mark And Worship Of The Beast, "They Will Be Deceived Into Doing This", By The False Miracles Rev 19:20 Describes This!

Revelation 19:20KJV
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

"Open Your Ears"!

If any person tries to harm/hurt the believer, they in return will be harmed/hurt "God's Word"!

In this truth lives the faith and patience of the saints, believe it, God's Not A Liar!

Revelation 13:9-10KJV
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Will There Be Tribulation Martyrs For The Glory Of The Lord Jesus Christ, "Absolutely" Those That Are Chosen To Be. Just As There Are Martyrs Of The Past And Present.

The Lord Jesus Christ Will Be In Control Of "The Future Great Tribulation", Just As God, Moses, And Aaron Were In Control Of Egypt.

1 Corinthians 10:13KJV
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Trut7t7

 

[bbyrd009]

Its all bollocks

the blind leading the blind, yeh

 

[bbyrd009]

The Future Man Of Sin, Antichrist, was seen as a human man by the Early Apostolic Church Fathers

"pleased to meet you; hope you guessed my name"

 

[bbyrd009]

Who knows what the AC will ultimately use to enforce his will. Probably many things, I imagine.

"my beliefs are absolute truths, ergo you must believe them too"

 

[Truth7t7]

"pleased to meet you; hope you guessed my name"

Yep, ole Jagger is closing in on the final hour at 74, hard to believe he made it this far.

Will he soon get to meet his song's prodigy?

 

[bbyrd009]

Yep, ole Jagger is closing in on the final hour at 74, hard to believe he made it this far.

Will he soon get to meet his song's prodigy?

ha well who do you think the prodigy is? Some spirit named 'satan' that we personify?

i shouted out
'Who killed the Kennedys,'
when after all
it was you and me

 

[Naomi25]

"my beliefs are absolute truths, ergo you must believe them too"

a trollers got to troll? Can't let go, huh? I know it's hard, but take a deep breath and just tell yourself we've been there, and we aren't going back. No point.