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Ha!
Yes, we're living in a Yahweh universe.
But the prince of the air rules Earth.
Sad isn't it?
Everything we know about this universe seems to suggest the opposite, now that's not to say there is no God.
 

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There are plenty of websites devoted to the subject of Apologetics, that will show you sound evidence for the faith, if you actually wanted to believe, you could go to them and find substantial evidence for the faith. To start, maybe try Charlie Campbell. Always Be Ready (ABR) - Christian Apologetics: Defending Your Faith
It's always someone telling me what to believe & how to believe it. But nothing from this God, it's strange how other people have to do the talking for God. I'm sure if this God is real he'd know exactly what I need to prove to me who he is, but it's always someone else speaking on his behalf.
 

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It's always someone telling me what to believe & how to believe it. But nothing from this God, it's strange how other people have to do the talking for God. I'm sure if this God is real he'd know exactly what I need to prove to me who he is, but it's always someone else speaking on his behalf.
That is how the Lord normally works. He placed His Holy Spirit in the church 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost. And He usually speaks to people through people who have received the Holy Spirit.

But if you want for Him to speak to you in an audible voice, be careful what you wish for. People who hear voices are usually thrown into mental institutions.
 
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I'm not sinking in to anything, do you have to look on everyone without Jesus being in desperation?
You my friend made the decision to join this forum as a supposedly former Christian. I was responding to you accordingly. The "eyes to see" of which Jesus spoke are the thing, whether you accept it or not:

"I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see." Rev 3:18
 
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You my friend made the decision to join this forum as a supposedly former Christian. I was responding to you accordingly. The "eyes to see" of which Jesus spoke are the thing, whether you accept it or not:

"I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see." Rev 3:18
Beauty abounds where there is no judgment.
 

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That is how the Lord normally works. He placed His Holy Spirit in the church 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost. And He usually speaks to people through people who have received the Holy Spirit.

But if you want for Him to speak to you in an audible voice, be careful what you wish for. People who hear voices are usually thrown into mental institutions.
And I've been thrown in to many, is God with me or not?
 

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I've been thinking of taking the Church to court, I deserve compensation for years of religious indoctrination & mental anguish.
 

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I've been thinking of taking the Church to court, I deserve compensation for years of religious indoctrination & mental anguish.
It wouldn't be the first time that the church has been persecuted by someone who claims not to believe in Jesus.
 
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I thought the whole of the verse said the answer quite well, as a matter of fact.
Just another attempt at making the implausible, plausible. What do you really know of me? I called out to your God when thing's were good & when thing's were bad. I didn't just come crawling to him when I was destitute, also when life was good, I came knocking on his door.

But life won't permit the illusion, not for me anyway.