None of them mention the death of the person or someone getting forgiveness after they die.
Details matter.
While it is true that toss the person into the torturer's prison - the lake of fire, the wages of sin, the judgment that casts into fiery hell -- occurs in after the "first death" and after the second resurrection of Rev 20... it is not true that we see there "forgiveness".
Which is what you do each time I point out that you are referencing texts that do not mention your hoped-for myth that the person is dead while they are being purified.
Define "death". You shift between spiritual death and physical death. Calvin was just as confused.
And all you have to do is show the text where it says they are dead.
Again, the same false dichotomy. Those in purgatory are (ultimately) saved. Their bodies died, but they are spiritually alive. They are not spiritually dead as you seem to insist. Those in hell are spiritually dead.
No it does not - you simply inject extreme inference each time you "need it".
But the text with "the day" does not say "in the day the person is burned with fire" -- another one of the salient points in your own argument MISSING from the text. And then you pretend that "we are not supposed to notice".??
Does that little trick of yours have an end to it??
The bulk of Newman’s extraordinary work is devoted to the exposition of a series of analogies, showing conclusively that the Protestant static conception of the Church (both historically and theologically) is incoherent and false. He argues, for example, that notions of suffering, or “vague forms of the doctrine of Purgatory,” were universally accepted, by and large, in the first four centuries of the Church, whereas, the same cannot be said for the doctrine of Original Sin, which is agreed upon by Protestants and Catholics.
Protestants falsely argue that Purgatory is a later corruption, but it was present early on and merely developed. Original Sin, however, was equally if not more so, subject to development. One cannot have it both ways. If Purgatory is unacceptable on grounds of its having undergone development, then Original Sin must be rejected with it. Contrariwise, if Original Sin is accepted notwithstanding its own development, then so must Purgatory be accepted.
Development of Doctrine: A Corruption of Biblical Teaching?
Certainly not - but the text does not say "on the day they are judged they are purified with fire" - and we all know it.
Because you deny a final purification in 1 Corinthians 3, and we all know it.
No .. it does not.
Read your Bible.
Hebrews 9 says that -- and it does not say "after this comes the judgment where they are purified by fire" which is the salient point in your own argument - MISSING from the text (A text that you seem to be unaware of where it is located - oddly enough).
I keep saying that 1 Cor 3 - say the "WORK" is burned - and never says the PERSON is burned.
The "person" (who is an evangelist in the case of 1Cor 3) only suffers the loss of his WORK not lasting because as hay and stubble it his teaching is removed from the church.
But you keep saying nothing is burned. Now you say "WORK" is burned. Make up your mind.
Obviously.
The fire that burned his WORK - his doctrine, his teaching, which is by that fire - removed from the church.
Obviously.
What verse says that? Where does Paul separate works from the person? It looks to me like another one of your man made traditions.
You quote a text saying "NO FORGIVENESS in the next life" -- to make your "THERE IS forgiveness in the next life"...
It's very annoying when you quote people out of context.
Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world
or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase
“in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti”) generally refers to the afterlife (see, for example, Mark 10.30; Luke 18.30; 20.34-35; Eph. 1.21 for similar language). Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and there is no forgiveness in hell. This proves that there is another state after death, and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory.
in the next. But you don't like scriptural implications, you want explicit proof text for every doctrine, belief and practice. This policy is not in the Bible, it's a man made tradition.
And we were simply "not supposed to notice"?? Seriously??
I notice that every line in your post misrepresents BoL or the doctrine of purgatory...seriously.
The doctrine of purgatory originated, in primitive form, with Judaism. Why don't you go pick on them.
