Sound Doctrine

[Marymog]

I've been learning that it doesn't pay to react to someone's goading. The best thing to do is to speak the truth in love hoping that those who are misled will come to the truth.

I felt the love from you PW....And I appreciate it.

Sure wish I could have gotten an answer from you. The questions I asked you weren't even that hard.

Love, Mary

 

[Marymog]

We may need to be touched by God more than one time in order to overcome the world of the flesh completely as did Jesus. We have been provided the means: scripture [flesh of Jesus] and blood [the quickening Spirit].

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed." John 6:53-55

Is this your interpretation of Scripture? Or are you repeating what someone else wrote?

Curious Mary

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Gal. 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Yes! And we are "children of promise".... Galatians 4:21-26 & 28 & 31--

Tell me, those of you who want to be under the law, don’t you hear the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave and the other by a free woman. But the one by the slave was born according to the impulse of the flesh, while the one by the free woman was born as the result of a promise. These things are illustrations, for the women represent the two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai and bears children into slavery — this is Hagar. Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.... Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.... Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.​

 

[bbyrd009]

I've been learning that it doesn't pay to react to someone's goading.

ya, i was afraid i was still being perceived as reacting there
so ty

 

[Marymog]

The Catholic Church [in the U.S.] began to drop in membership a while back, so they revved up their attempts to proselytize Protestants. The problem is a lot of us Protestants are ignorant to their errant doctrine. Catholics use Bible verses to support their positions, but they don't tip you off that their interpretation of those verses is completely different from Protestant interpretations. Catholic interpretations are based on an unwritten "Tradition" that supposedly includes all that the apostles ever said but was not recorded in the Bible.....

Hi PW. I know I am on your ignore list because of the tough questions I have asked you. So now I have an easy question for you.

Who wrote Luke and Acts?

Mary

 

[Grams]

I just spotted this post, and wonder if any one knows there is a group called
sound doctrine ? They sing in Mich. and other places at times and are real good...

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I just spotted this post, and wonder if any one knows there is a group called
sound doctrine ? They sing in Mich. and other places at times and are real good...

I live in the South and have never heard of them. Sounds like an interesting name for a musical group.

 

[brakelite]

Very impressive Brakelite. I actually enjoyed reading this post from you and you were making sense....Until the last sentence.

Before I respond I would like to make sure I am understanding you correctly so I don't put words in your mouth.

From what I gather of your post you do not like or you disagree with The Church using Tradition in conjunction with Scripture?

Mary

If the church has the last word on what scripture means, them the church had edged itself above scripture as being the final authority. Particularly as is historically traditional in Catholicism, to enforce those meanings upon everyone at the point of a flaming faggot.
Tradition is fine, if it doesn't corrupt, misuse, distort, or abuse scripture. I could give you one glaring example where tradition has done that... Even your own church admits it, making the church the ultimate authority over scripture.

 

[Nancy]

Hi Nancy. Good to hear from you. Here are four easy peasy lemon squeezie questions for you since you are obviously a bible believing Christian:

Do you have faith in the fact that you have all the correct books in the NT you are quoting from?

In Matthew 18:15-17, when the one brother REFUSED to listen to the two other brothers, who did Jesus tell them to take the matter to to settle the issue between them?

If I am to make sure that no one takes me captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy how can I be certain that you are not the one trying to make me captive with your philosophy? Is it because you do not rely on human tradition and I do?

Mary

1- Yes.
2-If a brother is in sin, go to him/her. If they will not listen then, 1 or 2 more "that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established." If they still will not hear, then take it to the congregants of that local body.
3-Does not the Holy Spirit give you a peace about that kind of stuff? He does me. I do not have "philosophy" I have just the Word, the Spirit and my willingness to hear and accept the Truth. One way to not be deceived is to not put your faith in men, and, what works for me is praying always for discernment.
4-Not quite sure what you are asking here.

 

[amadeus]

Is this your interpretation of Scripture? Or are you repeating what someone else wrote?

Curious Mary

I must say that someone told me: God. As one of His sheep should I not be hearing His voice?


"And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." John 10:4-5

 

[bbyrd009]

2-If a brother is in sin, go to him/her. If they will not listen then, 1 or 2 more "that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established." If they still will not hear, then take it to the congregants of that local body.

funny how we do this the opposite, huh?
fwiw i'll say that if one ever tries this, they will be in for a surprise too!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

funny how we do this the opposite, huh?
fwiw i'll say that if one ever tries this, they will be in for a surprise too!

Yeah, when someone offends us, we tend to tell everyone but that person...

 

[brakelite]

Yeah, when someone offends us, we tend to tell everyone but that person...

Yep, and more often than not, if we did approach that person, he would wonder what we are talking about...in other words, a complete misunderstanding. Sometimes our own sense of poor self worth causes us to be paranoid about what others are saying or doing...we see offense where there is none.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Hi PW. I know I am on your ignore list because of the tough questions I have asked you. So now I have an easy question for you.

Who wrote Luke and Acts?

Mary

You don't know who wrote Luke and Acts?
Neither do I.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You don't know who wrote Luke and Acts?
Neither do I.

I do know, but I'm keeping it a secret.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I do know, but I'm keeping it a secret.

Now if you want to say Luke wrote it, can you prove it?

 

[Marymog]

If the church has the last word on what scripture means, them the church had edged itself above scripture as being the final authority. Particularly as is historically traditional in Catholicism, to enforce those meanings upon everyone at the point of a flaming faggot.
Tradition is fine, if it doesn't corrupt, misuse, distort, or abuse scripture. I could give you one glaring example where tradition has done that... Even your own church admits it, making the church the ultimate authority over scripture.

Hi brakelite,

WHO, in your opinion, decides which "tradition is fine"? Since you don't like the CC tradition, WHO'S tradition do you agree with?

You could give me a glaring example....but you didn't!! I'm curious. What is that "glaring example"?

Mary

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Hi brakelite,

WHO, in your opinion, decides which "tradition is fine"? Since you don't like the CC tradition, WHO'S tradition do you agree with?

You could give me a glaring example....but you didn't!! I'm curious. What is that "glaring example"?

Mary

I'll give you one Mary.
Jesus still on the cross because he is sacrificed daily in the mass. He never gets off the cross.
Protestants take Jesus off the cross because he has risen and we celebrate the life in Christ, not his death daily as catholics do.

 

[Marymog]

1- Yes.
2-If a brother is in sin, go to him/her. If they will not listen then, 1 or 2 more "that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established." If they still will not hear, then take it to the congregants of that local body.
3-Does not the Holy Spirit give you a peace about that kind of stuff? He does me. I do not have "philosophy" I have just the Word, the Spirit and my willingness to hear and accept the Truth. One way to not be deceived is to not put your faith in men, and, what works for me is praying always for discernment.
4-Not quite sure what you are asking here.

(1) I am glad to see that you have faith in the fact that you have all the correct books in the NT you are quoting from. Did you know that your faith is based on the Tradition of The Church?

(2) Please do not twist scripture. Scripture says take it to the Church NOT to the congregants of that local body. Did you forget about the Council of Jerusalem and how they found their decision good to the Holy Spirit and binding on ALL Christians? THE CHURCH decided, not each local congregation. If one was to use your theory then that means that each "congregation" that teaches abortion or gay marriage is ok and they can back it up using scripture then their decision (the local congregation) is acceptable to the Holy Spirit and binding on all Christians. Taking scripture into context and referring to historical Christian writings on this matter, we can see that your theory is clearly wrong

(3) I refer you back to #1. If you don't put your faith in men then how do you know you are quoting from the correct books? If you don't put your faith in men how do you know who wrote those books? If you don't put your faith in men how did you come to YOUR translation of scripture which is clearly different then many other translations? If you hear and accept the Truth and I hear and accept the Truth and both our truths are DIFFERENT and we both had the Holy Spirit guiding us then which one of us three is confused? You? Me? The Holy Spirit? How about if we follow scripture and agree with it: The Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth.

(4) You stated "I thought we were to be followers of Jesus, that is WHO I put my faith in ony Him. NOT the church or other mere humans". You then quoted Colossians 2:8. So I asked you: If I am to make sure that no one takes me (Marymog) captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy (Colossians 2:8) how can I be certain that you (Nancy) are not the one trying to make me captive with your philosophy? (since what you stated is your philosophy)

You said you put your faith in Jesus, NOT The Church or mere humans. Does that mean you will never be captive to hollow and deceptive philosophy but I will since I rely on The Church? You are relying on your own philosophy to say that you will not be captive to philosophy....Which makes you captive to your own philosophy. But that's ok because you don't rely on the philosophy of men or The Church?

Mary

 

[Marymog]

I must say that someone told me: God. As one of His sheep should I not be hearing His voice?


"And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." John 10:4-5

OK

Sooooo was it your interpeaton or did you borrow it from someone else?

2nd attempt at an answer.....Mary