I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

[Blueberry]

So how can a President who does not believe in Jesus Christ be Gods man.

His chosen instrument to bring about His will.

 

[Blueberry]

No President or PM or Leader was ever a Saint in the history of the world.

How are you defining "Saint"? As a New Testament believer? No president, leader or Pm was ever a born again believer, anywhere, ever?? Is that what you are saying??

 

[Blueberry]

Satan was a good angel who was corrupted, he was not created bad.

Satan was not merely good... but perfect.

 

[Hidden In Him]

@Blueberry, greetings and welcome to Christianity Board.

When you post, just click the "reply" button first and it will include the person's quote for you automatically. It looks like you are using the "+quote" function, and then in the midst of writing your reply it ends up erasing the brackets to it so your posts get all messed up.

Just a heads up, and welcome again.
Hidden

 

[Blueberry]

What food did you store? I wondered how to store water too - just buy bottled? I hate it sitting in the plastic and leaching chemicals into the water.

Sorry I missed this. Its been one of those days.

Yes, bottled water. I drink bottled water all the time. Usually 1 gallon jugs of distilled water for less than $1 each. One of the very few luxuries I indulge in. It is also an investment in health IMO. I have a water well that is suspect. But I would drink from it if I had to. Around here people clean their tubs and fill them too. Yeah... I know. But if you get thristy enough it can be life saving. Try to get 1 gallon per person per day. Drink it anyway and leave the jugs empty. Later, when something comes along, refill them ahead of time. Minimal leaching. Which is a genuine concern. Keep them out of the sun because that I understand causes the most leaching. Trust me, if you only knew what the insides of your supply side plumbing pipes looked like. (Not helping again am I??) A decent little water filtration unit is a good investment. Any setup up like a propane grill or turkey fryer that could boil water in bulk is nice to have.

For food, non-refrigerated items are essential for loss of power situations. Peanut butter, crackers, bread, canned goods for sure. There are endless lists on the internet. Even breakfast cereal can be eaten dry if needed. You'd be surprised how hungry you can get and what becomes appealing! Roast marshmallows. Have a picnic. Buy stuff you like though. An amateur mistake I made was to buy survival foods that I did not like. Buy non-perishable stuff in excess and rotate your stock. But some fun stuff too. During such times even a little 'treat' is of greater value than normal. Since most other usual luxuries are not there.

Then medicines, vitamins, first aid items, flashlights/torches, batteries, weather radio, something to charge your smart phone, the list can grow quite long.

These are some basic ideas about short term events. If you are talking about something many months or years long, you basically have to design your life around it. And it simply may not be worth the hassle? Growing a garden, having solar power, raising chickens, and so on. That becomes a true self sufficiency scheme. I have been attempting to relocate for years now and have put off those kinds of measures until I settle in. But intend to do it. As much for quality and convenience and maybe even a hobby that pays me!?

The Latter Day Saints (Mormons) are quite adept at this. I have a gasoline generator or two, but a simple inverter plugged into a car cigarette receptacle can recharge phones, power a laptop which itself powers my wifi hot spot and even run a small flat panel TV.

Have a little fun. Turn off all your power (except for fridge and other things, but pretend the food in them has spoiled) and see what you miss first. Then do something about that.

You can't fix it all, but doing something and being even moderately prepared can remove a huge amount of the angst during such times. Each person can make a choice about the use of lethal means to defend themselves and their supplies. Though having a little bit extra for an unsaved unprepared neighbor can go a long way to witnessing. But generally I do not talk about what I have or do not have to strangers in person locally. In the 1930s people put on suits and stood in soup lines. Today, as you have correctly ascertained, they'll slit your throat. So a certain amount of prudence is in order. It is very tmepting to tell people so that they will see and do for themselves. Many people think "Why bother? I'll just go impose upon the ones I know that are prepare should something happen." Sad, but these are such times.

As far as hiding out for 3.5 years or something like that, in this day and age of weaponized drones, electronic money and purchases, robot soldiers, smart phones that rat you out and all the rest, what can a person really do about that? Makes too many overt preps and you end up on some list some where.

Start off with the idea of camping out for a few days. Nothing regarding the physical needs will empower you like taking even the most minimal steps. But water is basically priority one. Food second. Shelter/clothing. Those two are usually fine. Short to medium term. After that, besides meds or any other life saving thing, it is truly luxuries that we all are spoiled by. But the Flesh will scream about them! Under the stress of an event is not the best time to work on cessation goals.

Buying food you normally would not eat is usually a waste. Bulk up on those non-perishables that ordinarily enjoy during sales. You'll be ahead whether good times or bad.

Somebody should start a thread.

Hope this helps.

 

[Blueberry]

@Blueberry, greetings and welcome to Christianity Board.

When you post, just click the "reply" button first and it will include the person's quote for you automatically. It looks like you are using the "+quote" function, and then in the midst of writing your reply it ends up erasing the brackets to it so your posts get all messed up.

Just a heads up, and welcome again.
Hidden

I am actually using the reply function. Just hastily (carelessly) selectively editing the entire quoted portion to get at what I am focusing on. Inadvertently eliminating some of the bracketing. Have manually restored it many times now. I program computers as a hobby. Wrote my first, and last, webpage in the mid-90s using just Notepad. Even had 'frames'. Had recently noticed the +Quote button but could not imagine what its function was since Reply does such a through job of quoting posts? But they don't put things there for no reason, so I will experiment with it. Its sloppy posting, pure and simple.

Thanks.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I am actually using the reply function. Just hastily (carelessly) selectively editing the entire quoted portion to get at what I am focusing on.

Oh. Ok. Another trick in case you've never tried it is to use neither Reply nor Quote, but simply use your cursor to blue up only the section you want and then lift on the mouse. It should give you a small "Reply" button on screen, and if you click that you don't have to erase anything you don't need.

Had recently noticed the +Quote button but could not imagine what its function was since Reply does such a through job of quoting posts? But they don't put things there for no reason, so I will experiment with it.

It's actually a tool for storing multiple quotes, like from several different pages, and then applying them all at once to your post.

Its sloppy posting, pure and simple.

It doesn't bother me all that much, but I noticed @"ByGrace" get on somebody a little bit over it a few weeks ago, and I didn't want you to be subjected to one of her momentary lapses in common courtesy, LoL.

 

[Blueberry]

Thank you for the smile - I needed it (you hope that the robots end it quickly). I haven't heard about super computers yet and what that means to encryption. AI is concerning. A family member told me about a twitter bot that picked up everyone's bad habits and was going around being nasty to everyone, so that should let us know it's not a good idea to let robots think for themselves. I'm concerned that our standard of living is going to drop substantially - I already see the signs of it. The middle class is dropping to the poor and the younger generation are having a difficult time surviving financially. The entire plan is to flood the U.S. with the 3rd world and overwhelm welfare. Add that to the national debt and we're on our way to a collapse.

We're pretty much toast without any 3rd world influence. Remember when $14-15 trillion was an unsustainable debt?? What is it now.. $21-22 trillion?? I stopped counting like everyone else. Many tricks have been used to keep the stock market as most people see that as the best barometer of our economy's strength. But it is an illusion. Yet, somehow, they keep kick the can down the road.

Super computers have been around since the 1960s or so, but are the usual domain of universities, large government bodies and corporations. Massive and able to do insane amounts of computations, they will eventually crack all the codes.

I don't know how much we're going to escape - it's pretty bad now. We're in a police state as it is, we only think we're in a democracy. I know people who have committed suicide because the government scared their doctors so bad they took them off all pain medication - even those with cancer. Vets have been killing themselves. People don't know how bad it's gotten until you develop a serious infirmity or are injured. "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" has proven true. My neighbor's unarmed grandson was shot to death by police and no one was held accountable. The government has too much power now. It's not the way it's supposed to be.

I agree. I read a little of talk about the blue wave and red wave. It doesn't matter that much. If it is a blue wave, the left will feel empowered to make legislative changes. If it is a red wave then they may outright revolt. Whoever loses will cry rigged elections. No one will be happy. Sleep well, but it could all start tomorrow.

The opiate thing is really nonpartisan, but fully 'government in action'. That won't change as a result of tomorrow most likely. Because some abuse it then all have to suffer. The usual club fisted approach.

The police are in an almost no win situation. I can't imagine that this hasn't harmed recruiting for years now. The quality goes down. Less and less are God fearing. Many are returning vets more prepared for war zones than domestic policing. Mobs and people are more and more aggressive. Lawlessness. If you are a politician and people disagree with your position then good luck enjoying a simply evening out to eat. The Sarah Huckabee incident really chapped my hide. She makes no policies. You have to go to a museum to find decency. Nearly everything and everybody are on permanent simmer just ready to boil over. Lawlessness.

How do you like Houston? We thought about retiring there but the beaches in FL are nicer from what I could see. We've never been to TX but were going to look around the Houston area. How do you store water? Did you put away dry beans or buy prepper food? I'm afraid of a nuclear war - that's the way I think it's going to happen. We don't have the extra money for a shelter though. Haven't you wondered why all the wealthy people were building bunkers? I wondered what they knew.

I don't really like it. Was dragged here as a child. Mostly because it is a city. I came back here for family reasons. I am from a smaller town not too far away. Though I actually came back from Dallas where I spent the first half of my adult life. Like often is the case, people move to the city to find better jobs and perhaps for the amenities. Its a 'sanctuary city'. I just heard last night it is close to overtaking Chicago as the 3rd largest city after NY and LA. Oh joy. It is quickly turning purple and headed for blue. And it is sprawled out like few other cities on the planet. Its half the size of Rhode Island. If you like the beaches then Florida is probably better? We do avoid harsh winters for the most part. The humidity can be brutal. The ocean breeze seems to mitigate this in FL and along our cost. But more inland is can be stifling. The winds are infrequent. Except of course during an actual storm! The development is staggering and awesome for the local economy, but is contributing to the flooding as these flat lands simply cannot dissipate tropical storms anymore given all the concrete added. That, too, is only going to get worse.

Nuclear war. This was the issue after watching "The Day After" in the 1980s. Get far away from the cities. Idaho and all that. Only to crawl out of a shelter into a nuclear winter. Nah, and that where the robot kill shot stuff comes from, better to move to a city that we know is targeted so as to go out in as clean of a fashion as possible. It is truly a no win situation.

I'm more worried if I got this multiple quoting format thing figured out! Hang on... going to push the button!

 

[Blueberry]

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Oh. Ok. Another trick in case you've never tried it is to use neither Reply nor Quote, but simply use your cursor to blue up only the section you want and then lift on the mouse. It should give you a small "Reply" button on screen, and if you click that you don't have to erase anything you don't need.


It's actually a tool for storing multiple quotes, like from several different pages, and then applying them all at once to your post.


It doesn't bother me all that much, but I noticed @"ByGrace" get on somebody a little bit over it a few weeks ago, and I didn't want you to be subjected to one of her momentary lapses in common courtesy, LoL.

This is quite helpful. Thanks. I did the last post by hand, but intentionally left off the poster portion. (edit: fixed that post) Now that I see the result, I won't do that again. It is distinguishable by font and a very subtle outline, but still forces too much effort on the reader's part.

I noticed those two 'floating' buttons when highlighting then right clicking for spell checking alternatives. Or for terms that I did not understand that I wanted to clip and paste into a separate browser window to do internet searches.

I appreciate your tolerance, but it may difficult for some other readers. Well worth the effort to pursue excellence.

@"ByGrace" is going to have to work really hard to get on my bad side.

Part of what was messing me up is that I like to pull down as much of the screen as I can to read as much as I can. This means the floating up/down arrow widget in the lower right hand corner is mostly covering the Reply button and so I click slightly to the left of it and may be getting onto the +Quote button region. Only the reply arrow is visible on my setup. Now i just click Reply and read the post in the reply window.

 

[Helen]

"Hidden In Him" said:
Oh. Ok. Another trick in case you've never tried it is to use neither Reply nor Quote, but simply use your cursor to blue up only the section you want and then lift on the mouse. It should give you a small "Reply" button on screen, and if you click that you don't have to erase anything you don't need.


It's actually a tool for storing multiple quotes, like from several different pages, and then applying them all at once to your post.


It doesn't bother me all that much, but I noticed @"ByGrace" get on somebody a little bit over it a few weeks ago, and I didn't want you to be subjected to one of her momentary lapses in common courtesy, LoL.

If you do a “copy and paste of part of a persons post ...then make sure you add your name to your post. You replied to Hidden In Him ‘s post..by copy ...but he won’t get a red Alert in his bar (top right)
The Alert draws attention of the one you write to if you use the reply button. But if you copy and paste then add the at sign . = @Hidden In Him ...that way an Alert should show up for him. And he can reply.

You are doing great ...I didn’t know that you had trouble navigating. You just jumped right in like an old pro.
...you are a blessing....nice to have you on board

 

[Blueberry]

If you do a “copy and paste of part of a persons post ...then make sure you add your name to your post. You replied to Hidden In Him ‘s post..by copy ...but he won’t get a red Alert in his bar (top right)
The Alert draws attention of the one you write to if you use the reply button. But if you copy and paste then add the at sign . = @Hidden In Him ...that way an Alert should show up for him. And he can reply.

You are doing great ...I didn’t know that you had trouble navigating. You just jumped right in like an old pro.
...you are a blessing....nice to have you on board

I was goofing around. Reversing the quoted and replied to portions. I've got an idea. (edit) I tried to just quote the header information only and leave Hidden in Him's reply appearing as posted text, but even a space character was not enough to satisfy the software. Had to put something visible. So I used an asterisk.

 

[Helen]

I was goofing around. Reversing the quoted and replied to portions. I've got an idea.

Oh okay...glad all is good.

 

[Blueberry]

Oh okay...glad all is good.

I meant to get back to your gracious lengthy post. But I guess there really isn't a lot to reply to? More so, just to absorb it and incorporate it into my thinking. Thanks again.

 

[Blueberry]

Did you put away dry beans or buy prepper food?

I just buy canned beans. There is some concern with BPAs in the lining, but they are so ready-to-eat. In those situations, when the power is off for extended times, this is a valuable trait. Some plastic dinnerware and you can survive a long time on just that.

(Hopefully I shrunk these images enough to respect bandwidth? And screen size. This is my first attempt with images.)

I was going to blanket you with suggestions like...
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"We Make the Game Hunt You" Yikes!!!

 

[bbyrd009]

No President or PM or Leader was ever a Saint in the history of the world.

obviously, and amen!

 

[bbyrd009]

The world is growing more inhospitable by the day.

so then leave it, as you were told to do

I wish God would end it already.

well, He isn't gonna ok

I don't know how much worse things can get.

oh, you can eat your children if you stay on that path, the one you are lamping for us right now?

It's pretty sickening.

gee thanks, got some porn for us too, neat

 

[bbyrd009]

Get all you can, can all you get!

possibly the very worst thing you can do to food wadr
i mean 40% nutrition, guaranteed? no ty
= eating "barley" imo

 

[Soverign Grace]

It would appear from recent news reports in conservative media that a red wave is imminent. I'm not sure what Mr. Trump has done to ensure that there is ZERO voter fraud, since that could tilt everything illegally.

I hope you're right. I shudder to think what would happen if the Democrats took control. There was voter fraud in our state - a guy who worked with my husband told him that his dead father had "voted" before him.

 

[Blueberry]

possibly the very worst thing you can do to food wadr
i mean 40% nutrition, guaranteed?

Guaranteed?? Can you quote a credible source?

I agree right up front that vitamin C is reduced due to heat. As are a few other unstable nutrients. But most remain intact or are minimally affected. Some are actually enhanced and many plants foods are made more digestible due to cooking.

no ty
= eating "barley" imo

The best that I can decipher from this is that you think barley is a better food for storing than canned foods? If so, I will disagree with that in general. Of course it might well depend on which canned food we are talking about. And how you plan to prepare the barley during a power out scenario?

Already owe you a small debt of gratitude. Some of the things that you have said caused me to go back and refresh my memory on why I came to the conclusions that I did so long ago. And I already found a major mistake in a food that I was embracing. Recognizing this and eliminating it will likely expedite my recovery and more quickly improve my health. Thanks.

I do however believe that your somewhat myopic view that omega-3 matters to the exclusion of nearly every other micro/macro nutrient or nutritional consideration is a bit overly simplistic. I fully intend to make that case when I am able to put it all together. Rather busy at the moment. I appreciate your patience regarding that reply.

In the meantime, I would like to share a few things about myself and my approach to health. Much of what I read you say in the other thread sounded quite familiar from my days lurking at curezone.org 10 to 15 years ago. I did a 10 day water fast a number of years ago. Did 3 old school 'liver flushes'. Have tried a number of alternative methods and nutritional strategies. Details of which are being withheld as they are not all appropriate to share in such a setting.

Its been 11.5 years since I stepped into a doctor's office or have been seen by any medical professional. That was only for a physical for health insurance back then when I had it. This is reckless and a poor stewardship of my health (the Temple) that God has given to me. My issue almost certainly would not have progressed to the point that it did had I been watching more closely. And if I had followed the things that I knew to do that are right. While my initial inclination is always to the most natural approach that is reasonable, allopathic medicine is clearly superior in diagnostics, trauma treatment and most (actually needed!) surgeries. When it comes to treatment with synthesized patented drugs, things get much less clear.

 

[Blueberry]

I don't know how much worse things can get.

oh, you can eat your children if you stay on that path, the one you are lamping for us right now?

Why do you talk to this person this way? Eating children?? Such vulgarity. Why do you talk to any person this way?

It's pretty sickening.

gee thanks, got some porn for us too, neat

Porn?? Where did you derive that from? You're not sickened by the downward spiral of society?

Where you like this before Omega-3s or were you worse?

@Soverign Grace This is foreign to me. Texas has changed and is changing, but this kind of stuff is not tolerated in public. White, brown, black... red, blue... this kind of stuff does not happen here. 'Men' don't stand around for this kind of thing. Its just repugnant. On a 'Christian' board no less. Don't worry about what's 'out there'. There is plenty in here.