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I watched several American History Channel documentaries I had recorded months ago. They were about Nazi Germany. I was shocked that the extermination of human beings happened in the 1940's, a mere 10 years before I was born. It was shocking that humans would go along with such mass evil yet I see dangerous trends in America today. The police have been militarized. There are many good police, but if you look at them dressed in black riot gear and using tanks and other surplus army gear it doesn't look like America anymore - it more resembles the brown shirts in Nazi Germany. There is also mass violence being perpetrated on the public with police usually never being held accountable for some of the worst abuse imaginable. Why is the public tolerating this?

Nazi brown shirts photo:
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America's militarized police force: 11 chilling facts about America’s militarized police force

What's concerning is the survivors of the Nazi camps who remarked on the cruelty of the soldiers. The correlation with the cruelty of some in today's police force is uncanny. Where does such cruelty come from and what foments it? One thing that I've seen that foments it is the utter lack of accountability: giving a wink and a nod when police commit an act of depravity so great as to shock the conscience. They are rarely held accountable - such as the officers who tased a 17 year old boy's testicles until he died. What would make a police officer commit such vile abuse? An individual who does that to another human is mentally sick. Yet where is the outcry? Where is the fear that if this is allowed to persist that your children may be victimized?

When they showed photos of the barracks at the Nazi concentration camps I was struck with how closely they resembled American FEMA camps.

Ravensbruck: https://allthatsinteresting.com/wor...ds/2015/01/womens-concentration-camp-yard.jpg

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Hitler exterminated the disabled. Today, Americans who have disabilities are being denied pain medication, including vets, many who have committed suicide.

We're seeing unprecedented loss of privacy: we're being monitored, surveilled, and having our phone conversations listened to in our own homes. Yet Americans just keep taking it. No one seems to realize that technology is only as good as the individual operating it. It's going to be abused. I read that odd surveillance kiosks were installed in NY and even the local government representatives were told about them or what they're being used for. Yet there they stay with no one knowing what they're doing. I saw where Tucker Carlson of Fox said that he won't allow a cell phone into his room at night. Isn't anyone else uneasy with this drastic loss of privacy?

I read last night that Ann Coulter said that Trump will be our last Republican President because immigrants are pouring into America and many more being brought in through chain migration and as anchor babies. She said that every state where there has been high immigration has flipped blue. The Republicans seem blind to it and aren't doing anything to stop it, but keep voting for more immigrant labor for the farms and hotel/motel industries. Much of this is because American youth have been disabled from the drugs that have been pumped into every city across America. Was this planned? It might seem so.

When the Democrats gain full power - which is their plan, they're going to take the guns. Hitler disarmed the people which is how he dominated them.

This doesn't bode well for America. Isn't anyone else concerned about these things and what should we do about it?

If these things haven't touched your life yet please realize that chances are they will. If you don't speak up now, where will you be later?

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
 
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If you consider the severity of God's judgement on his own people in the OT. And especially on Jerusalem in 70 CE, according to Josephus (warning: graphic carnage and cannibalism). And his judgments on nations in general, this all looks too familiar.
 

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What do you mean, "What are we going to do?" You have just derided the efforts made to deter the violence in the streets.... as though the police should simply hand out flowers and sweetly ask rioters to stop burning the cities and attacking other citizens who don't agree with them.
 
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Have we considered the prophetic question..."who can make war with the beast?" With todays' drones and push button warfare...coupled with an unbridled nationalism and pride in military power...who is to say that the so called democratic USA is not really working for a power it has no idea about? People assume too quickly that a temporal power comes from God. Is God not about eternal things?

Nothing is ever as it seems. But who can discern the times?

We know that the antichrist will be unstoppable militarily. Those who follow the antichrist will surely not see themselves as followers of evil.
 
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If you consider the severity of God's judgement on his own people in the OT. And especially on Jerusalem in 70 CE, according to Josephus (warning: graphic carnage and cannibalism). And his judgments on nations in general, this all looks too familiar.
You think that God is giving us over to evil because America has turned from Him? It happened with the Israelites.
 
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I think that just like all of Jesus' disciples who thought their "movement" was over, done and finished, with the death of their leader, many of us have also been tricked by Satan into believing that he is stronger than our Savior in this world. And that God is powerless to do anything about Satan's influence except to come back and have to wipe out most of the world.
 
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What do you mean, "What are we going to do?" You have just derided the efforts made to deter the violence in the streets.... as though the police should simply hand out flowers and sweetly ask rioters to stop burning the cities and attacking other citizens who don't agree with them.
No. I believe that police should control people who are obviously breaking the law. What I don't agree with are the unnecessary brutalizations. And they're really being brutal and sick. Please start reading up on this - it has grown very bad. No one holds them accountable. I was speaking with a man in the hospital who told me that police have severely abused he and his friends. Of course on the other side are those who shoot police. But the trends that have developed are that no one holds police accountable when they commit the most brutal of crimes against a person. Judges let off the cops who tased that young man's testicles until death. Someone normal doesn't do something like that. That's evil and it's evil to let someone off who did it. "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil." If you did that to your enemy you would be thrown in jail for life and receive a tongue-lashing from the same judge that let the police off.

That is vile torture that is even disallowed in war crimes. Think about it. That's torture. Why is there no public outcry? It's just like Nazi Germany where the German citizens watched nonchalantly as Jews were tortured and did not speak up. How evil have we become as a society? There are stricter laws against abusing an animal. There is a public outcry when a sports figure is caught fighting dogs - which is evil too. But when police brutalize a young man and tase his testicles Americans are strangely silent. When police beat a man so badly his head swells up to twice it's size and charge him with breaking a troopers fist with his face - where is the outcry? We are just like the German citizens.

WATCH: Tyrant Cop Knocks Handcuffed Woman Unconscious for No Reason & Lies About It


This is one of the worst videos I have ever seen: Man charged with breaking a trooper's fist with his face - Police State USA

Only those who willingly bury their head in the sand can't see that this has grown barbaric. I was talking with a receptionist at a local law office who told me that they had a case where police ripped this man's throat out. Who does that? That's evil and Americans are just accepting it. Or we dismiss it with "he must have done something to deserve it." No one should have their throat ripped out by a man representing the law. There is something seriously wrong. As long as it's done to the other poor guy and not to you people seem okay with it. But it's not normal. It's a harbinger of more evil to come.

As we watched the documentaries my husband remarked on how evil it was. But the Germans crammed the people into rooms and filled it with gas. That's an easier death than being tased in one's privates. So how can we sit in judgment of the Germans yet not see our own callousness of heart? Something about that story should scare every father and mother, sister and brother, and husband and wife across America. I tried to figure out how the German people could knowingly watch human beings being treated as less than human and I came to the conclusion that Americans are no different. We're hearing of these incidents and yet we do nothing, say nothing. But Proverbs 31:8 says "Open your mouth for the dumb, for the cause of all who are left desolate." Yet no one is opening their mouths. And it's going to eventually touch your life. Martin Luther King said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

There are some stellar officers - we have great ones near us. But leadership is not rooting out the bad ones - the ones with psychological disturbances. It's unfair to the good police because then the public turns against the police and a good cop could get shot by someone abused by a bad cop. By not holding police accountable, it foments the worst in human nature and allows it to breed and multiply like a cancer or a virulent infection. I read that psychologists found that police who brutalized people were fighting gay urges and the way they coped was to abuse member of the public to fight their inner demons and anything that threatened their gender identity. So if they've uncovered some research why aren't they implementing psychological screening? They commit the most horrific attacks - worse than even war crimes permit - and go on without blinking an eye. They're given a pass by the higher-ups in government.

We had better wake up to what we've become as a nation. We're no different than the Germans who watched so many people brutalized under their noses. It's happened a little at a time so that morality is almost close to nonexistent today. I recently dealt with a lawyer in court and I was blown away by the overt lying. He had no compunctions at all about telling one filthy lie after another. It made me wonder if he'd ever had a mother who taught him not to lie. Or if he'd ever stepped foot in a church where even the 10 Commandments are taught about not bearing false witness. There was no guilt; no remorse. No fear. Just lied and lied and lied.

I know that the End Times are inevitable but I wonder if we should be doing more to make this society even a little bit more moral until the final day.

I found this as I was reading that has helped to clarify more of what is taking place: it's the implementation of the Beast System. It's really opening my eyes up to how Revelations is being fulfilled:

New World Order Surveillance State: Building The All-Seeing Eye
 
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Besides the fact that right after she noticed she was being filmed, she threw herself down at 0:57, trying to fake brutality, if you rerun it a few times, you will find that video was edited right at that point before it was posted.

I think you have been duped, and don't even know it.
 
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No. I believe that police should control people who are obviously breaking the law. What I don't agree with are the unnecessary brutalizations. And they're really being brutal and sick. Please start reading up on this - it has grown very bad. No one holds them accountable. I was speaking with a man in the hospital who told me that police have severely abused he and his friends. Of course on the other side are those who shoot police. But the trends that have developed are that no one holds police accountable when they commit the most brutal of crimes against a person. Judges let off the cops who tased that young man's testicles until death. Someone normal doesn't do something like that. That's evil and it's evil to let someone off who did it. "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil." If you did that to your enemy you would be thrown in jail for life and receive a tongue-lashing from the same judge that let the police off.

That is vile torture that is even disallowed in war crimes. Think about it. That's torture. Why is there no public outcry? It's just like Nazi Germany where the German citizens watched nonchalantly as Jews were tortured and did not speak up. How evil have we become as a society? There are stricter laws against abusing an animal. There is a public outcry when a sports figure is caught fighting dogs - which is evil too. But when police brutalize a young man and tase his testicles Americans are strangely silent. When police beat a man so badly his head swells up to twice it's size and charge him with breaking a troopers fist with his face - where is the outcry? We are just like the German citizens.

WATCH: Tyrant Cop Knocks Handcuffed Woman Unconscious for No Reason & Lies About It


This is one of the worst videos I have ever seen: Man charged with breaking a trooper's fist with his face - Police State USA

Only those who willingly bury their head in the sand can't see that this has grown barbaric. I was talking with a receptionist at a local law office who told me that they had a case where police ripped this man's throat out. Who does that? That's evil and Americans are just accepting it. Or we dismiss it with "he must have done something to deserve it." No one should have their throat ripped out by a man representing the law. There is something seriously wrong. As long as it's done to the other poor guy and not to you people seem okay with it. But it's not normal. It's a harbinger of more evil to come.

As we watched the documentaries my husband remarked on how evil it was. But the Germans crammed the people into rooms and filled it with gas. That's an easier death than being tased in one's privates. So how can we sit in judgment of the Germans yet not see our own callousness of heart? Something about that story should scare every father and mother, sister and brother, and husband and wife across America. I tried to figure out how the German people could knowingly watch human beings being treated as less than human and I came to the conclusion that Americans are no different. We're hearing of these incidents and yet we do nothing, say nothing. But Proverbs 31:8 says "Open your mouth for the dumb, for the cause of all who are left desolate." Yet no one is opening their mouths. And it's going to eventually touch your life. Martin Luther King said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

There are some stellar officers - we have great ones near us. But leadership is not rooting out the bad ones - the ones with psychological disturbances. It's unfair to the good police because then the public turns against the police and a good cop could get shot by someone abused by a bad cop. By not holding police accountable, it foments the worst in human nature and allows it to breed and multiply like a cancer or a virulent infection. I read that psychologists found that police who brutalized people were fighting gay urges and the way they coped was to abuse member of the public to fight their inner demons and anything that threatened their gender identity. So if they've uncovered some research why aren't they implementing psychological screening? They commit the most horrific attacks - worse than even war crimes permit - and go on without blinking an eye. They're given a pass by the higher-ups in government.

We had better wake up to what we've become as a nation. We're no different than the Germans who watched so many people brutalized under their noses. It's happened a little at a time so that morality is almost close to nonexistent today. I recently dealt with a lawyer in court and I was blown away by the overt lying. He had no compunctions at all about telling one filthy lie after another. It made me wonder if he'd ever had a mother who taught him not to lie. Or if he'd ever stepped foot in a church where even the 10 Commandments are taught about not bearing false witness. There was no guilt; no remorse. No fear. Just lied and lied and lied.

I know that the End Times are inevitable but I wonder if we should be doing more to make this society even a little bit more moral until the final day.

I found this as I was reading that has helped to clarify more of what is taking place: it's the implementation of the Beast System. It's really opening my eyes up to how Revelations is being fulfilled:

New World Order Surveillance State: Building The All-Seeing Eye


You're talking like police are independent authorities. They are not. They work for city councils and mayors.

I know because I have been both. We hired and fired police.

As mayor I was over the police force and the fire department.

The cities that you are complaining about how their PDs work are all liberal and atheistic.

A lot of accusations thrown at police our lies. There are actually very few bad cops out there. Very few.

Apparently you don't want police to use riot gear and weapons, lethal and nonlethal to protect themselves and the public.

Do you realize how hard it is to take someone down who's completely under the influence of hard drugs? Or dedicated to extremism, such as Muslim terrorists?

Stop comparing them to Nazis. That is insulting, absurd and flat-out extremist liberal propaganda.

ANTIFA, black lives matter and similar groups are the real enemies.

So are Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons and the like.

Your pointing your finger at the wrong people.
 
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You're talking like police are independent authorities. They are not. They work for city councils and mayors.

I know because I have been both. We hired and fired police.

As mayor I was over the police force and the fire department.

The cities that you are complaining about how their PDs work are all liberal and atheistic.

A lot of accusations thrown at police our lies. There are actually very few bad cops out there. Very few.

Apparently you don't want police to use riot gear and weapons, lethal and nonlethal to protect themselves and the public.

Do you realize how hard it is to take someone down who's completely under the influence of hard drugs? Or dedicated to extremism, such as Muslim terrorists?

Stop comparing them to Nazis. That is insulting, absurd and flat-out extremist liberal propaganda.

ANTIFA, black lives matter and similar groups are the real enemies.

So are Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons and the like.

Your pointing your finger at the wrong people.
I think we need to speak against abuse. When we align with it and make excuses we alienate those we need to be reaching for Christ. SG will reach people you cannot because she's not taking sides but letting blame fall where it belongs.
 
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I think we need to speak against abuse. When we align with it and make excuses we alienate those we need to be reaching for Christ. SG will reach people you cannot because she's not taking sides but letting blame fall where it belongs.
Except that there was no abuse by police in that entire video.
 

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I think we need to speak against abuse. When we align with it and make excuses we alienate those we need to be reaching for Christ. SG will reach people you cannot because she's not taking sides but letting blame fall where it belongs.

Of course we need to oppose. I did not tolerated anywhere in the city.

Don't act like I did or do.

I addressed were the main blame resides, on the city councils.

To that I will add the media.

Instead of just quoting actual and supposed police abuse how about also showing the other side of the coin, as in false reporting and false claims?

The stats show actual police abuse is rare.

People high on certain drugs have taken multiple Taser hits and kept coming. Bullets that would've taken down anyone else and kept coming.

You don't gamble with people's lives. In situation where the choice is to shoot the perp or gamble that they will not shoot their victim which option are you going to go with?

As with gun ownership, more people are saved by the privately owned legal guns then damage done.

Note the sources for all of this so-called police abuse extremely liberal sites in such as CNN and MSNBC.

Not saying FOX is a dream site, but it is more accurate than the other two.
 

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Of course we need to oppose. I did not tolerated anywhere in the city.

Don't act like I did or do.

I addressed were the main blame resides, on the city councils.

To that I will add the media.

Instead of just quoting actual and supposed police abuse how about also showing the other side of the coin, as in false reporting and false claims?

The stats show actual police abuse is rare.

People high on certain drugs have taken multiple Taser hits and kept coming. Bullets that would've taken down anyone else and kept coming.

You don't gamble with people's lives. In situation where the choice is to shoot the perp or gamble that they will not shoot their victim which option are you going to go with?

As with gun ownership, more people are saved by the privately owned legal guns then damage done.

Note the sources for all of this so-called police abuse extremely liberal sites in such as CNN and MSNBC.

Not saying FOX is a dream site, but it is more accurate than the other two.
When we make excuses, it casts Jesus whom we represent into negative light.
 
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Excuses!

What I said is true.


Want to cite your vast experience to disprove me?
Who is your audience as a Christian? Is it good to take political sides and alienate those of another persuasion? Or to stick up for abusers instead of merely condemning abuse? Back in the day we saw lots of wrong doing by government agencies.
 
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Who is your audience as a Christian? Is it good to take political sides and alienate those of another persuasion? Or to stick up for abusers instead of merely condemning abuse? Back in the day we saw lots of wrong doing by government agencies.

Their study the Bible. Administration is one of the gifts of the spirit.

God appoints all leaders for his purposes.

David, Solomon and the genealogy of Judah are all leaders selected by God.

You don't know what you're talking about.
 
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Their study the Bible. Administration is one of the gifts of the spirit.

God appoints all leaders for his purposes.

David, Solomon and the genealogy of Judah are all leaders selected by God.

You don't know what you're talking about.
Violence is violence. = bad to support if you name Christ.
 
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